One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country
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What happened to austerity killed Greece?
No one argues out of both sides of their mouth like a leftist
But sure H wants spending cuts. Sure. -
So we're really back to your fantasy island smaller government--something neither the people I vote for nor the people you vote for will EVER preside over. I'll live in reality, thanks.SFGbob said:
Another lie. Make me king and you'd have a budget surplus. I'd cut spending and eliminate Federal departments and programs. My government wouldn't require anyone to pay more than 15% of the income in taxes.HHusky said:
Absolutely not. My people still want to put more stuff on the credit card and your people want to put everything on the credit card.SFGbob said:
Have they proposed enough tax increases to cover their current spending, the spending they want to do and the deficit spending? Because if no, fuck off.HHusky said:
The people I vote for have never taken raising more money off the table. The people you vote for have cut taxes and increased spending.SFGbob said:
Yes, we don't have the votes because of people like you. We've come full circle Dazzler, you and the people you vote for are the fucking problem.HHusky said:
You don't have the votes, lady.SFGbob said:
Weird how you completely leave off my support of taking a chainsaw to the Federal budget.HHusky said:
You’ve seen the deficit and applauded cutting revenues. I’ve seen the deficit and easily discerned that most people who talk about wanting small government are liars.SFGbob said:
How's the system you support working out Dazzler? Have you seen the deficit? Have you seen the additional spending your party wants right now? Was your claim about fiscal responsibility a total fucking fraud?HHusky said:
As if your desires were limited to blowing up SS.SFGbob said:
No, I vote to blow-up the entire system of Social Security and I don't shit on political movements and politicians who support doing the same like you do Dazzler.HHusky said:
So you just vote to put ever more on the credit card. As you did personally when you allegedly were pining to make small index fund purchases.SFGbob said:
And there's the strawman ass fuck. I don't believe it's coming because there are too many people who vote like you Dazzler. I'm under no illusions that the parasites and their enablers have won.HHusky said:
Already spent. Ponzi scheme.RaceBannon said:Your government has decided that you can't be trusted to invest for your retirement so we are going to steal that money from you and not invest it for your retirement.
I'm old enough to have fallen for the Al Gore LOCKBOX for social security. I was actually impressed because for years I had been saying the same thing Bob pointed out. We are getting shit for a return because the SS money goes into the general fund.
blob and I aren’t that far apart here. But he still believes a unicorn is coming.
That's always been the point.
I'm living in reality and the possible.
You're at Ayn Rand fantasy camp. -
It's ridiculous to talk about spending cuts. The spending increases were baked in long ago.RaceBannon said:What happened to austerity killed Greece?
No one argues out of both sides of their mouth like a leftist
But sure H wants spending cuts. Sure. -
Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?WestlinnDuck said:Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.
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Have no idea what this means as I don't speak gibberish. Maybe it means that you don't support spending restraints and this somehow gives you the youthful moral high ground as only fiscally responsible democrats support massive spending increases because that's what the more fiscally responsible alternative candidates do. Just the pie in the sky additional revenue from more IRS agents is a fantasy. The spending is real, however.HHusky said:
Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?WestlinnDuck said:Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.
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So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way. -
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way. -
Oh please, Gasbag.WestlinnDuck said:
Have no idea what this means as I don't speak gibberish. Maybe it means that you don't support spending restraints and this somehow gives you the youthful moral high ground as only fiscally responsible democrats support massive spending increases because that's what the more fiscally responsible alternative candidates do. Just the pie in the sky additional revenue from more IRS agents is a fantasy. The spending is real, however.HHusky said:
Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?WestlinnDuck said:Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.
You've fallen in and out of love with so many so-called "fiscal hawks" over the past 20 years it'd be embarrassing to someone without senile dementia. -
Biden has dementia.HHusky said:
Oh please, Gasbag.WestlinnDuck said:
Have no idea what this means as I don't speak gibberish. Maybe it means that you don't support spending restraints and this somehow gives you the youthful moral high ground as only fiscally responsible democrats support massive spending increases because that's what the more fiscally responsible alternative candidates do. Just the pie in the sky additional revenue from more IRS agents is a fantasy. The spending is real, however.HHusky said:
Aren't you getting awfully old to fantasize about how much better we'd play with the fifth string quarterback?WestlinnDuck said:Bring back Newt. You leftards just loved his spending restraint.
You've fallen in and out of love with so many so-called "fiscal hawks" over the past 20 years it'd be embarrassing to someone without senile dementia. -
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way. -
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way. -
Somebody needs to pay for those programs that we can't do without - like open borders, the green gaia religious fraud, public education that doesn't educate and welfare payments to able bodied people and to end the homeless problem that we treat like spreading more pigeon feed and then can't figure out why there are more pigeons.HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way. -
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government. -
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort. -
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort. -
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though. -
Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though. -
There's the cope.HHusky said:
Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
But daddy!
Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation? -
"Swamp GOP" were your words.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's the cope.HHusky said:
Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
But daddy!
Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation?
How is referencing your support for Daddy not responsive? -
"Everyone does it" is your conflationary argument.HHusky said:
"Swamp GOP" were your words.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's the cope.HHusky said:
Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
But daddy!
Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation?
How is your support for Daddy not responsive?
Yeah, sure, there's literally no difference in any government spending or context whatsoever. 1 trillion on infrastructure in a recession vs. 3 trillion on entitlements during stagflation. Send out the checks for $1,000,000 because it's all the same.
I mean, I guess we've established you are bad at economics but this is right there with oil production doesn't effect price. -
The US is not a low tax country, and does a much worse job spending and allocating its tax revenue.
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Daddy was all on board with the tax cut bill when everything seemed to be going fine. Growing deficits in fat times, just like the "swamp GOP".UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Everyone does it" is your conflationary argument.HHusky said:
"Swamp GOP" were your words.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's the cope.HHusky said:
Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
But daddy!
Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation?
How is your support for Daddy not responsive?
Yeah, sure, there's literally no difference in any government spending or context whatsoever. 1 trillion on infrastructure in a recession vs. 3 trillion on entitlements during stagflation. Send out the checks for $1,000,000 because it's all the same.
I mean, I guess we've established you are bad at economics but this is right there with oil production doesn't effect price. -
Tax cuts are literally part of how you shrink government but sure, good argument?HHusky said:
Daddy was all on board with the tax cut bill when everything seemed to be going fine. Growing deficits in fat times, just like the "swamp GOP".UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Everyone does it" is your conflationary argument.HHusky said:
"Swamp GOP" were your words.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's the cope.HHusky said:
Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
But daddy!
Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation?
How is your support for Daddy not responsive?
Yeah, sure, there's literally no difference in any government spending or context whatsoever. 1 trillion on infrastructure in a recession vs. 3 trillion on entitlements during stagflation. Send out the checks for $1,000,000 because it's all the same.
I mean, I guess we've established you are bad at economics but this is right there with oil production doesn't effect price.
Are you going to go ahead with the "how do we pay for tax cuts" fallacy next? -
Daddy made the maximum SALT deduction $10,000. Senile daddy got rid of that.HHusky said:
Daddy was all on board with the tax cut bill when everything seemed to be going fine. Growing deficits in fat times, just like the "swamp GOP".UW_Doog_Bot said:
"Everyone does it" is your conflationary argument.HHusky said:
"Swamp GOP" were your words.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's the cope.HHusky said:
Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.HHusky said:
There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.UW_Doog_Bot said:
There's a difference between small and large growth.HHusky said:
Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!HHusky said:
We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.SFGbob said:
No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.UW_Doog_Bot said:So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.
H is just stating there's no way to fix it.
Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.
There is no political will to shrink government.
Good job, good effort.
Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
But daddy!
Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation?
How is your support for Daddy not responsive?
Yeah, sure, there's literally no difference in any government spending or context whatsoever. 1 trillion on infrastructure in a recession vs. 3 trillion on entitlements during stagflation. Send out the checks for $1,000,000 because it's all the same.
I mean, I guess we've established you are bad at economics but this is right there with oil production doesn't effect price. -
H has no interest in Biden or current events
Daddy issues are severe -
Too bad Ross Perot is dead.
That motherfucker explained government finance/deficits/debt better than any human over the past 100 years. -
UW_Doog_Bot said:
100% this. Add up all the fed, state, and local level taxes and the tax burden goes way up.</blockquote
If you are even gainfully employed you see about half of your take home go to taxes. 20-30% goes away to payroll taxes. 20% of your heat and light bills are taxes. 15% of your rent or mortgage payment goes to pay property taxes. 30% of your gasoline cost goes to taxes.
And then we have the indirect taxes. For everything else that you buy has a cost built into it to cover the taxes that the business pays. -
You guys made HHusky angry, Biden is fucking with his mojo.
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Is this where we drop our 941s and 1120S filings on the table or would you rather see a FY2020 P&L and figure it out for yourself?HHusky said:
There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.hardhat said:
I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?HHusky said:
Bullshit. No you don’t.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.LoneStarDawg said:Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.
US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads
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H is such a big shot lawyer he fails to understand most blue states have income tax on top of federal income tax. So worldly that one.thechatch said:
Is this where we drop our 941s and 1120S filings on the table or would you rather see a FY2020 P&L and figure it out for yourself?HHusky said:
There is zero chance any of you gals pays 28% of your income in taxes. Basic math fail.hardhat said:
I'm really disappointed in you ladies. This is one of your favorite subjects, that we're not taxed enough. Did your booster shot have some side effects?HHusky said:
Bullshit. No you don’t.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I get taxed a lot more than 28% and still get toll roads.LoneStarDawg said:Paid 42% tax rate in Sweden, got free health care, free full time childcare (8:30am to 4pm), and $100 a month unlimited metro card.
US I get taxed 28% and get toll roads
Fuck off.
