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One of the many quaint beliefs the Left has about the US is that it's a relatively low-tax country

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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,587 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,962 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    Somebody needs to pay for those programs that we can't do without - like open borders, the green gaia religious fraud, public education that doesn't educate and welfare payments to able bodied people and to end the homeless problem that we treat like spreading more pigeon feed and then can't figure out why there are more pigeons.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,422
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
    Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.

    There is no political will to shrink government.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,587 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
    Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.

    There is no political will to shrink government.
    There's a difference between small and large growth.

    Good job, good effort.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,422
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
    Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.

    There is no political will to shrink government.
    There's a difference between small and large growth.

    Good job, good effort.
    There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,587 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
    Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.

    There is no political will to shrink government.
    There's a difference between small and large growth.

    Good job, good effort.
    There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.
    I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.

    Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,422
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
    Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.

    There is no political will to shrink government.
    There's a difference between small and large growth.

    Good job, good effort.
    There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.
    I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.

    Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
    Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,422
    edited November 2021
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
    Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.

    There is no political will to shrink government.
    There's a difference between small and large growth.

    Good job, good effort.
    There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.
    I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.

    Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
    Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.
    There's the cope.

    But daddy!

    Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation?
    "Swamp GOP" were your words.

    How is referencing your support for Daddy not responsive?
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,587 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    So then we've agreed that the US is a high tax country that we get little in return for.

    H is just stating there's no way to fix it.

    Sounds like a hell of an argument for not passing any future spending. We can at least shrink government as a % of gdp that way.

    No, he is saying that we need to raise taxes even higher.
    We're not a high tax country, at all. We do need to raise taxes without even considering any new discretionary spending, which will also happen . . . under either party.
    So we can get nothing good in return. Genius!
    Telling you that you will die someday is not the same as rooting for you to die.

    There is no political will to shrink government.
    There's a difference between small and large growth.

    Good job, good effort.
    There are differences between large and small deficits and good and bad economies too. The GOP has run up massive deficits when the economy was humming; its claims to fiscal prudence require we ignore its recent history.
    I'm impressed you agree with the criticism most here have of the swamp GOP.

    Kind of at odds with your defense of Liz though.
    Cuz Daddy is the figurehead of fiscal discipline, of course.
    There's the cope.

    But daddy!

    Welcome to 2021. Care to discuss the current trillions in entitlement stimulus for an economy that is already overheated with inflation?
    "Swamp GOP" were your words.

    How is your support for Daddy not responsive?
    "Everyone does it" is your conflationary argument.

    Yeah, sure, there's literally no difference in any government spending or context whatsoever. 1 trillion on infrastructure in a recession vs. 3 trillion on entitlements during stagflation. Send out the checks for $1,000,000 because it's all the same.

    I mean, I guess we've established you are bad at economics but this is right there with oil production doesn't effect price.
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