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Increases in COVID-19 are UNRELATED to levels of vaccination

pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,800
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edited November 2021 in Tug Tavern
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/

Vaccines currently are the primary mitigation strategy to combat COVID-19 around the world. For instance, the narrative related to the ongoing surge of new cases in the United States (US) is argued to be driven by areas with low vaccination rates [1]. A similar narrative also has been observed in countries, such as Germany and the United Kingdom [2]. At the same time, Israel that was hailed for its swift and high rates of vaccination has also seen a substantial resurgence in COVID-19 cases [3]. We investigate the relationship between the percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases across 68 countries and across 2947 counties in the US.
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The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.







This runs counter to EVERY. SINGLE. STATEMENT. about CV vaxx to date.

Open it up. Open it now. Go fuck your mandate.
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,945
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    It’s open 5 minutes out of issaquah. Has been the whole time.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,405
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    Bob_C said:

    It’s open 5 minutes out of issaquah. Has been the whole time.

    Temecula voted for Trump and recall

    The stores have a 8 x11 sign about not needing a mask if vaxxed. Some say the CDC recommends one anyway

    No one cares either way. No mask is the higher percentage by a lot
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,258
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    Bob_C said:

    It’s open 5 minutes out of issaquah. Has been the whole time.

    Temecula voted for Trump and recall

    The stores have a 8 x11 sign about not needing a mask if vaxxed. Some say the CDC recommends one anyway

    No one cares either way. No mask is the higher percentage by a lot
    Orange County same.
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    Fauci wanted a mass vaccination program for AIDS. The Crud has been his personal wet dream since the 80’s. There’s something seriously wrong with this guys mind.

    I think they call it a God Complex. I could be wrong. This man is solely responsible for the wrongheaded initial approach to this pandemic. He did not study history.

    He actually ignored science. Smarter people in the scientific community with more esteemed credentials warned that the vaxx approach would not work. The insanity is continuing to forge ahead.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,405
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    2001400ex said:

    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.

    Fuck off
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,931
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    Minnesota is run by a West Coast wannabe governor. Leftards lie and love to be lied to. They aren't interested in actual measures that protect the vulnerable and like AIDS over promote the danger solely for the ability to control the population, consequences be damned. A prophylactic or a recommended treatment for those testing positive is still not readily available. Take some Tylenol and wait for your ventilator still seems the standard of care.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/11/kevin-roche-time-to-get-on.php

    Gov. Tim Walz stated on Oct. 18 that “the highly effective vaccines … in almost every instance will keep you away from death. ”In response to a question regarding fully vaxxed Gen. Colin Powell’s death from COVID-19, Walz said: “It is a very rare occurrence for someone to die [after being vaccinated]. … I am willing to bet … of those 111 deaths over the last four days there won’t be more than one or two that were vaccinated.”

    This is simply not true. Since Oct. 4, the Department of Health has announced 671 deaths in its regular reporting — and 323 of those have been in fully vaccinated persons, including 111 announced this week. This is 44% of all deaths announced in this time period. And over 7,000 new breakthrough cases were announced in this week’s report.

    Despite government messaging to the contrary, the public is aware of the inadequacy of the vaccines to prevent transmission or serious illness, as now everyone either knows someone with a breakthrough infection or has read of their occurrence among athletes, politicians and other prominent figures.

    In light of the reality that vaccines are not performing as we were told they would, an exit plan that ends our coronavirus obsession must primarily be attitudinal in nature. The true state of the epidemic and the damage being done by our misguided efforts to suppress a virus that cannot be suppressed must be acknowledged. We have seen several European countries take the more enlightened approach that all epidemic restrictions must end and the total well-being of all citizens must be the primary concern, not a monomaniacal focus on preventing COVID-19 cases, which cannot be accomplished in any event.

    We have done what we can. It is time to move on and accept this as yet another pathogen with which we will live.

    Some specific steps that would be part of a more rational approach include:

    1. Either stop the incessant reporting of every event related to the epidemic, which only serves to maintain a high level of anxiety, or provide the public with complete and accurate information about the epidemic, including more details about who is getting infected, and what actually causes many hospitalizations and deaths.

    2. Stop over-testing. It serves no purpose to constantly test people who are asymptomatic. The result of excessive testing is large proportions of false and low positives which overwhelm contact tracing efforts and lead to unnecessary quarantines.

    3. Stop quarantining children and adults who have not tested positive. Only symptomatic persons who have tested positive or who suspect they may have been infected should isolate themselves. Asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic transmission is actually low. Most transmission occurs from a few persons who are symptomatic, have large viral loads and substantial contact networks. Forced isolation disrupts education for children, hinders parents’ ability to work and damages business operations.

    4. Stop wasting money on ineffective contact tracing. Minnesota has spent tens of millions of dollars on contact tracing and still can’t identify the vast majority of transmissions. This experience occurs everywhere.

    5. Refocus public policy on overall public health and well-being. The restrictions put in place and the campaign of terror around COVID-19 have severely damaged educational and social attainment for children, led to financial stress for many, imperiled our public finances, led to increases in serious illness and deaths due to missed health care, increased rates of drug and alcohol abuse and overdose, and caused large rises in mental illness.

    The threat posed by the virus itself to our total social well-being is far less than the damage done by our ongoing ineffectual actions to suppress it.

    6. Most importantly, declare the epidemic over, declare victory if you are a politician and need that win, and celebrate that we survived this epidemic.
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    2001400ex said:

    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.

    Get Vaxxed and we end this pandemic. Vaxx rates around 70-80% and cases in places like Cali rise. But we’re not to talk about cases. When we hear get vaxxed and this is over. You see the problem with the strategy, right?

    GD you’re dumb as dirt Hondo.

    Are we approaching 10 yet. Let’s burn this shit early today, okay buddy.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,800
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    46XiJCAB said:

    2001400ex said:

    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.

    Get Vaxxed and we end this pandemic. Vaxx rates around 70-80% and cases in places like Cali rise. But we’re not to talk about cases. When we hear get vaxxed and this is over. You see the problem with the strategy, right?

    GD you’re dumb as dirt Hondo.

    Are we approaching 10 yet. Let’s burn this shit early today, okay buddy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwrt23SDSFs
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,814
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    Cases matter so little the CDC canceled the reporting of all breakthrough cases but not unvaxed cases. Ask yourself why.
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,522
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    2001400ex said:

    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.

    No, that's the metric you and your ilk have been touting the entire time. This proves the point that virus gonna virus, "vaccines" don't matter, and case count is a useless statistic. Nothing's changed with me.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    46XiJCAB said:

    2001400ex said:

    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.

    Get Vaxxed and we end this pandemic. Vaxx rates around 70-80% and cases in places like Cali rise. But we’re not to talk about cases. When we hear get vaxxed and this is over. You see the problem with the strategy, right?

    GD you’re dumb as dirt Hondo.

    Are we approaching 10 yet. Let’s burn this shit early today, okay buddy.
    The scientists didn't say get vaxxed and it's over. Idiot. They said get vaxxed and we can reduce deaths immensely. And go back to normal living until we find something kills it. But you keep putting words in people's mouths.
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    2001400ex said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    2001400ex said:

    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.

    Get Vaxxed and we end this pandemic. Vaxx rates around 70-80% and cases in places like Cali rise. But we’re not to talk about cases. When we hear get vaxxed and this is over. You see the problem with the strategy, right?

    GD you’re dumb as dirt Hondo.

    Are we approaching 10 yet. Let’s burn this shit early today, okay buddy.
    The scientists didn't say get vaxxed and it's over. Idiot. They said get vaxxed and we can reduce deaths immensely. And go back to normal living until we find something kills it. But you keep putting words in people's mouths.
    Are you watching the Vaxx promos Hondo? Put out by the CDC and State Health Depts? Of course they did Hondo. Your Pres. Joey told us he was gonna “shut down the virus”. How was he gonna do that Hondo? With a vaxx of course.

    The CEO of Pfizer just said this very thing a couple of days ago Hondo. I’m sure there are no scientists at Pfizer advising him. Right Hondo?

    Hondo, you don’t “kill” a virus. Saying this makes be believe you’re not someone who reads anything at all. You’re thinking is the problem. But you have millions of other idiots to keep you company.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    2001400ex said:

    So after over a year of arguing that cases don't matter, it's about death and hospitalizations. You now are screaming about cases.

    Get Vaxxed and we end this pandemic. Vaxx rates around 70-80% and cases in places like Cali rise. But we’re not to talk about cases. When we hear get vaxxed and this is over. You see the problem with the strategy, right?

    GD you’re dumb as dirt Hondo.

    Are we approaching 10 yet. Let’s burn this shit early today, okay buddy.
    The scientists didn't say get vaxxed and it's over. Idiot. They said get vaxxed and we can reduce deaths immensely. And go back to normal living until we find something kills it. But you keep putting words in people's mouths.
    Another post another lie

    Get the shot and return to normal they said

    No one said "until we find something that kills it"

    That is fucking stupid even for you

    The vax killed it. Allegedly

    https://voanews.com/a/covid-19-pandemic_cdc-says-vaccinated-people-can-go-back-normal-life/6205791.html

    Health officials are recommending lifting most COVID-19 restrictions for people who are fully vaccinated.

    That means no more masks or social distancing, indoors or outdoors, according to updated guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    "If you are fully vaccinated, you can start doing the things that you had stopped doing because of the pandemic," said CDC Director Rochelle Walensky. "We have all longed for this moment."

    Stick to defending pedophiles
    Lol bright one you are. I say they said we can go back to normal living. Scream I'm wrong and post something that says those exact words. Lol.

    You argue like Bob does. Nothing has changed here.
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