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Help us Ana Mari Cauce. You're our only Hope. (Derek Johnson article)

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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    I read it. I liked it.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,245 Founders Club
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266
    She really is the place to focus our* attention. I'm hoping to get to my strongly worded letter this week.
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,626 Founders Club
    Well done. Larsen seems like a rising star as an AD. He looks like a great funds raiser, has shown to financially support UW's two greatest sports, Football and Softball and has been on a number of national committees which is how you network and meet other AD's who you can make mutually beneficial schedules with in the future. I'm not as sold on the idea of hiring the NDSU head coach. Craig Bohl (3 straight titles at NDSU) has been solid the last five years but not great at Wyoming going 42-47 in his time there. Chris Kleiman (4 titles in 5 years at NDSU) is in his third year at K-State and has had some good wins but is 8-5, 4-6, and now 4-3 this season. Entz won a title in his first year, lost in the quarters his second and is 7-0 this year. I'd be for hiring Larsen in a second but I'm far from convinced that the NDSU blueprint for success translates to the next level.
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,248 Founders Club
    Good stuff. I don’t have any faith in her though.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    I'm leaving Hardcore Husky? Good to know! Thanks, Vanilla!
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    I'm leaving Hardcore Husky? Good to know! Thanks, Vanilla!

    That “feature” is annoying AF.
  • 79smoothdawg
    79smoothdawg Member Posts: 721
    Nice job. He's a technically gifted writer.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Marginally technically gifted writing

    Agreed with the balance of the article other than the political shots (distracting from the message … allows an out to tune out the article) and the coaching/AD choices (that’s for another time/place)
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    I guess it begs the question whether or not the piece was meant to be taken seriously by the Pres of the UW or if it's more for fun.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,170 Standard Supporter
    I didn't think the political mentions were a problem. They seemed self-deprecating and intended to disarm Cauce.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,217 Founders Club

    I didn't think the political mentions were a problem. They seemed self-deprecating and intended to disarm Cauce.

    Hopefully, she does have a sense of humor were she to read it.
  • StLouisDawg
    StLouisDawg Member Posts: 550
    Overall good. But the “portrait mis-perceived” seems over wrought. Cauce at worst vaguely dislikes football, but definitely understands it’s an asset to a university. One of a hundred competing priorities, sadly.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,293 Founders Club

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,245 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She’s an academic?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,293 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
    I'm not sure that supporting diversity and equity makes you a leftist...
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,293 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
    I'm not sure that supporting diversity and equity makes you a leftist...
    It's clear you're going to argue no matter what.

    I support equality among human beings, not equity of outcome. Two totally different things. Let's live in the real world.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,293 Founders Club
    Moved to the Oyster
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
    I'm not sure that supporting diversity and equity makes you a leftist...
    pressing
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
    I'm not sure that supporting diversity and equity makes you a leftist...
    It's clear you're going to argue no matter what.

    I support equality among human beings, not equity of outcome. Two totally different things. Let's live in the real world.
    I don't intend to get into a back and forth, but just to be clear, that isn't my intention.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    Nothing wrong with diversity either - unless it is mandated by the government and institutions of lower education.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    America is diverse and more so everyday

    Demographics never fail

    Whites won't be a majority much long


    Worst white supremacists ever
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    Mad_Son said:

    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
    I'm not sure that supporting diversity and equity makes you a leftist...
    If they actually believed in equity and diversity, you might have a point. But leftards lie and love to be lied to and the last thing a leftist wants is equity and diversity. You think they actually care about black lives? They have a slogan for that too.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    If I like my reds yellows and browns can I keep them?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    If I like my reds yellows and browns can I keep them?

    Sure if you are a state university and they are segregated in individual safe places and racially segregated dorms.