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You literally have no way of knowing either of these. You are assuming them when they are hypothetical at best.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
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I’m sure before they got together one of them passed an unvaxxed troglodyte in a grocery store. The only logical explanation.
I heard about a cannibal that passed an unvaxxed person in the produce aisle -
I know you are being sarktastic, but wouldn't the cannibal be in the meet aisle?LebamDawg said:I’m sure before they got together one of them passed an unvaxxed troglodyte in a grocery store. The only logical explanation.
I heard about a cannibal that passed an unvaxxed person in the produce aisle -
not when he had to shit
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The Throbber will personally administer the anal Covid test for the 20 something chicks in your office.Bob_C said:
We have a wave of the vid going around my office in 20 somethings that have been vaxxed. None of them fat or anything (one of the girls could be kind of hot if she lost 10 lbs though). All of them are experiencing symptoms worse that myself who had it and no vax.UW_Doog_Bot said:
How would you know if it did or didn't? There's literally millions of people who are asymptomatic even in high risk categories.Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Group discount too. -
Most asthmatics I know before the shot had real issues... I'm fat and have asthma, I am prime for major issues with the vid and I had a 2 day cold.... the vaccine worked periodUW_Doog_Bot said:
You literally have no way of knowing either of these. You are assuming them when they are hypothetical at best.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day. -
Now I am not saying you should force anyone to get it, that is BS... but it is effective and all the studies of who is in the hospitals show it... I also pick up doctors and nurses that have flown into kootenai County to help with our covid explosion and most of the people in the hospital are unvaccinated.... now if you are young and healthy, feel free to not get it, but anyone else should.... but again they shouldn't be forced too.
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I've encouraged you to look at how asthma sufferers are fairing against Covid. You seem to not want to look. There are studies out there. I too have asthma so I've done some reading. You would feel much better if you did. It's not a auto death sentence. Hell when I tried to schedule a vaxx appointment, I didn't even qualify until all adults qualified, even with asthma. Apparently we didn't make the top-10 of comorbidities. COPD is another story.Goduckies said:
Well yes, but it attacks the lungsBleachedAnusDawg said:
Actually, the main killer is being old or fat and diabetic.Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters. -
Sounds like a flu shot.Goduckies said:Now I am not saying you should force anyone to get it, that is BS... but it is effective and all the studies of who is in the hospitals show it... I also pick up doctors and nurses that have flown into kootenai County to help with our covid explosion and most of the people in the hospital are unvaccinated.... now if you are young and healthy, feel free to not get it, but anyone else should.... but again they shouldn't be forced too.
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HERO at WORK!PurpleThrobber said:
The Throbber will personally administer the anal Covid test for the 20 something chicks in your office.Bob_C said:
We have a wave of the vid going around my office in 20 somethings that have been vaxxed. None of them fat or anything (one of the girls could be kind of hot if she lost 10 lbs though). All of them are experiencing symptoms worse that myself who had it and no vax.UW_Doog_Bot said:
How would you know if it did or didn't? There's literally millions of people who are asymptomatic even in high risk categories.Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Group discount too. -
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day. -
I've done reading and heard from a bunch that had a hard time.46XiJCAB said:
I've encouraged you to look at how asthma sufferers are fairing against Covid. You seem to not want to look. There are studies out there. I too have asthma so I've done some reading. You would feel much better if you did. It's not a auto death sentence. Hell when I tried to schedule a vaxx appointment, I didn't even qualify until all adults qualified, even with asthma. Apparently we didn't make the top-10 of comorbidities. COPD is another story.Goduckies said:
Well yes, but it attacks the lungsBleachedAnusDawg said:
Actually, the main killer is being old or fat and diabetic.Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters. -
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day. -
Totally fair poont, but we shouldn't knock anyone who gets the vaccine any more than someone who doesn't.UW_Doog_Bot said:
You literally have no way of knowing either of these. You are assuming them when they are hypothetical at best.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
With a government and media that lies with reckless abandon and callous disregard of the truth, we gotta cut every reasonable person some healthy slack.
On the other hand, if you're one of this smug Seattle ShitLibs who wear their fealty jab like a badge, then fuck you.
Carry on. -
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day. -
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supplyTurdBomber said:
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day. -
1. How do you know this?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
2. Are you certain your source is reliable?
I say this because there have been many reports from Texas and other states that so-called "breakthrough" cases are not being recorded properly and understate the actual numbers of vaccinated persons getting sick from Covid.
Israel's data leads me to believe this is true. -
Even HCQ was shown to be effective if given in the first 3 or 4 days of the virus BEFORE it reached the lungs. Big Pharma put a quick stop to that shit with their orders to their puppets at CDC to say "Tylenol only" and Good Luck.Goduckies said:
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supplyTurdBomber said:
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day. -
I think the real answer is patented drugs versus generics. No money in generics, thus, very little research in the U.S. or Europe - the very reason Fauci and the Big Pharma Cabal point to as a reason to ignore therapeutics and steer everyone to Big Pharma's jabs.Goduckies said:
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supplyTurdBomber said:
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Pretty fucking convenient, isn't it? -
Get ready to cough 4 times and the most mediocre runny nose of your life! Godspeed!
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To be clear, I have no problem with anyone that decides it's in their best interests to get the jab. Sounds like @Goduckies made an appropriate choice given his circumstances.Goduckies said:
Most asthmatics I know before the shot had real issues... I'm fat and have asthma, I am prime for major issues with the vid and I had a 2 day cold.... the vaccine worked periodUW_Doog_Bot said:
You literally have no way of knowing either of these. You are assuming them when they are hypothetical at best.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Both my parents have it bc they are high risk. My only point is that your singular experience and what you are drawing from it are hypothetical and specious.
My wife is an asthmatic as well but for other medical reasons(and bc we already had covid) can't take the vaccine. Her doctor informed her though that the medications she's already on are likely therapeutics against Covid. Maybe you are in a similar boat, maybe you aren't.
This is all about freedom of choice and people deciding what's best for themselves. -
I'm not arguing against hcqTurdBomber said:
Even HCQ was shown to be effective if given in the first 3 or 4 days of the virus BEFORE it reached the lungs. Big Pharma put a quick stop to that shit with their orders to their puppets at CDC to say "Tylenol only" and Good Luck.Goduckies said:
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supplyTurdBomber said:
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day. -
Sure and I don't agree with that eitherTurdBomber said:
I think the real answer is patented drugs versus generics. No money in generics, thus, very little research in the U.S. or Europe - the very reason Fauci and the Big Pharma Cabal point to as a reason to ignore therapeutics and steer everyone to Big Pharma's jabs.Goduckies said:
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supplyTurdBomber said:
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Pretty fucking convenient, isn't it? -
It's the out-patient, non-hospitalized, early intervention treatments they AREN'T doing that I'm talking about here. Even the suggestion that therapeutics were available to treat covid got steamrolled by the CDC and it's lying bastard minions in the mainstream media that likely killed 100k people or more by sending them home with Tylenol or hooking them up to a vent instead of treating them with off-label drugs that Big Pharma's Bitch, aka the CDC, told people didn't work.Goduckies said:
I'm not arguing against hcqTurdBomber said:
Even HCQ was shown to be effective if given in the first 3 or 4 days of the virus BEFORE it reached the lungs. Big Pharma put a quick stop to that shit with their orders to their puppets at CDC to say "Tylenol only" and Good Luck.Goduckies said:
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supplyTurdBomber said:
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?Goduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
When a variant blows up in a place where no outpatient treatment is sanctioned, the hospitals are of course going to fill up. That doesn't mean ipso facto that vaccinations are the answer or the cure. We all know they're a mitigation measure with varying degrees of effectiveness, at best. -
So they survived just like you did. Isn't that the bottom line here.Goduckies said:
I've done reading and heard from a bunch that had a hard time.46XiJCAB said:
I've encouraged you to look at how asthma sufferers are fairing against Covid. You seem to not want to look. There are studies out there. I too have asthma so I've done some reading. You would feel much better if you did. It's not a auto death sentence. Hell when I tried to schedule a vaxx appointment, I didn't even qualify until all adults qualified, even with asthma. Apparently we didn't make the top-10 of comorbidities. COPD is another story.Goduckies said:
Well yes, but it attacks the lungsBleachedAnusDawg said:
Actually, the main killer is being old or fat and diabetic.Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters. -
Kootenai is fucked because they brought in a new CEO who screwed with the staff. A bunch leftGoduckies said:
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinatedTurdBomber said:
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.Goduckies said:
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick46XiJCAB said:
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?Goduckies said:
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure.gifHuskyJW said:MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please AlexUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.MikeDamone said:95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Now, you knew the rest of the story. -
And the argument is not vax vs non vax (sorry OBK)
The argument is authoritarian state vs individual choice.
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Wife has had some very mild symptoms since before my diagnosis last Friday. She finally decided to call her Dr. who sent her for testing. Tested positive. Dr. sent her to Kootenai Health emergency for further testing and treatment. 6 hours in emergency and she came home with no treatment but lots of advice and consultation.
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The CDC is an absolute corrupt, failed gov't org. No treatment plan whatsoever. I blame DIMS for their attacks on "horse paste" and HCQ in order to own Trump. They have blood on their hands. No debating it.
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