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People in counties where > 70% voted for Trump are dying from Covid at 4 times the rate as . . .

HairyBallsDawg
HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075

. . . people in counties where < 32% voted for Trump.

Since delta began circulating widely in the United States, COVID has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70% of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst.

In counties where Trump won less than 32% of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/red-covid-in-u-s-the-coronavirus-partisan-pattern-is-growing-more-extreme/

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    Good. They deserve it

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    Good. They deserve it

    His will be done
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    edited October 2021


    . . . people in counties where < 32% voted for Trump.



    Since delta began circulating widely in the United States, COVID has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70% of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst.

    In counties where Trump won less than 32% of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/red-covid-in-u-s-the-coronavirus-partisan-pattern-is-growing-more-extreme/



    Sounds legit.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,609 Standard Supporter
    Sea Slimes? LOL
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor. Why aren’t blacks getting the shot? Any lingering affects of influential liberals saying they ain’t taking no Trump shot?

    Is this “losing the argument so bringing up race”?

  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful free shit variety. The type of people that don't die.

    But do with the numbers what you will.
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    pawz said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    The largest per capita group of unvaxxed is back and brown folks.
    Post the source and we can dig in to it.
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    edited October 2021
    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club
    edited October 2021

    pawz said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    The largest per capita group of unvaxxed is back and brown folks.
    Post the source and we can dig in to it.
    Crystal and Saagar. Breaking Points podcast. #1 news/politics podcast in the cuntry.


  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    The largest per capita group of unvaxxed is back and brown folks.
    Post the source and we can dig in to it.
    Crystal and Saagar. Breaking Points podcast. #1 news/politics podcast in the cuntry.


    Anything in writing? I doubt those guys wrote any analysis but are quoting data and a study. Who did the study?
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,653 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    Bob_C said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
    I see that math and science aren't your strong points.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,653 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
    I see that math and science aren't your strong points.
    Recently laughed a sales guy out of the room that touted that 25% growth on a $50k customer was a huge success when he didn’t spend much time talking about the customer that grew 5% on a $2m base and had a 15% growth target.

    I’m a contribution dollar guy but maybe that’s just me.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
    I see that math and science aren't your strong points.
    Recently laughed a sales guy out of the room that touted that 25% growth on a $50k customer was a huge success when he didn’t spend much time talking about the customer that grew 5% on a $2m base and had a 15% growth target.

    I’m a contribution dollar guy but maybe that’s just me.
    Dont you worry my friend. At my company we have 10 new sales people this year an a grand total of 1 truly good account.

    And now I get to be the bad guy when they cry and moan to my owners how they need more money.
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
    I see that math and science aren't your strong points.
    Recently laughed a sales guy out of the room that touted that 25% growth on a $50k customer was a huge success when he didn’t spend much time talking about the customer that grew 5% on a $2m base and had a 15% growth target.

    I’m a contribution dollar guy but maybe that’s just me.
    Which means nothing in reference to biostats.

    47 / 100000 compared to 10 / 1000000 is stastically significant in science.

    Sales guys might use numbers but there is a reason you're in sales and not in the sciences.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    I call Bullshit.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,653 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
    I see that math and science aren't your strong points.
    Recently laughed a sales guy out of the room that touted that 25% growth on a $50k customer was a huge success when he didn’t spend much time talking about the customer that grew 5% on a $2m base and had a 15% growth target.

    I’m a contribution dollar guy but maybe that’s just me.
    Which means nothing in reference to biostats.

    47 / 100000 compared to 10 / 1000000 is stastically significant in science.

    Sales guys might use numbers but there is a reason you're in sales and not in the sciences.
    Lol at your claim of what is statistically significant.

    Maybe you are better looking than @hhusky though.
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    edited October 2021
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
    I see that math and science aren't your strong points.
    Recently laughed a sales guy out of the room that touted that 25% growth on a $50k customer was a huge success when he didn’t spend much time talking about the customer that grew 5% on a $2m base and had a 15% growth target.

    I’m a contribution dollar guy but maybe that’s just me.
    Which means nothing in reference to biostats.

    47 / 100000 compared to 10 / 1000000 is stastically significant in science.

    Sales guys might use numbers but there is a reason you're in sales and not in the sciences.
    Lol at your claim of what is statistically significant.

    Says the sales person...

    Be sure to upsell those folks at your drive up window the super size.
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Co-morbidities?

    Obesity/Type 2 diabetes rates : Southern states vs. rest of country?

    Just a thought . . .
  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    So what you’re implying, Mr. Science, Biden voters are smarter?

    What has Biden delivered?

    Mandatory vaccination for essential workers, i.e., law enforcement, highly trained healthcare workers, public school teachers . . .

    Open southern border with record numbers of people from around the world allowed entry without vetting, testing, etc. vaccination optional. 20% with “health issues” according to the Head of DHS.





  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    The largest per capita group of unvaxxed is back and brown folks.
    Post the source and we can dig in to it.
    Crystal and Saagar. Breaking Points podcast. #1 news/politics podcast in the cuntry.


    Anything in writing? I doubt those guys wrote any analysis but are quoting data and a study. Who did the study?
    I listen to them regularly. They've made the poont on numerous occasions. They are very good at citing their sources, and handicapping the validity of a source, however I don't take notes.

    Most recently (I think the Nicki Minaj clip) that in NYC only 33% of AA are vaxxed. I'm sure the "Vaccine Numbers", "Class Divide", "Vaccination Uptick" vids will discuss.

    Crystal and Saagar are also both pro-vaxx.


    Chronological order newest to oldest. Knock yourself out.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uurGOOBOtjM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9FBzJFvOM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awmoEbq5DYM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLxfEpkSXEA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsV0uLc6GL8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gVG3xmhQU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_XqFvcfeI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7l8l-Zz_vk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMUgwSMIDHc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_-lrOlr8js

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnwwX5xiFJc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO3Mi3EEb0M

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q8X_1GLZ9M

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-waIV0C_9M

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcdHJxOUdOk



  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    And you’re smart enough to get the vaccine, but dumb enough to vote for the cowardly dipshit we currently have in office. Got it
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    I am not dying and none of my friends are either. So fuck you

    Stop beating around the bush and say what you mean!
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Doogles said:

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    Or more Democrats are of the youthful
    First doubting response that actually makes a valid point about whetther or not this analysis controlled for age. I've always suspected that not all Trump fans were dumbshits.

    That said, I'd be surprised if age by itself was the main issue here -- I'd bet $100 that it is mainly due to vaccination rates.

    4 x higher death rate is significant.
    Seems significant on the surface and framing, really isn’t when you are talking tiny numbers. Smart people avoid the % increase talking points on tiny baselines.
    I see that math and science aren't your strong points.
    Recently laughed a sales guy out of the room that touted that 25% growth on a $50k customer was a huge success when he didn’t spend much time talking about the customer that grew 5% on a $2m base and had a 15% growth target.

    I’m a contribution dollar guy but maybe that’s just me.
    Which means nothing in reference to biostats.

    47 / 100000 compared to 10 / 1000000 is stastically significant in science.

    Sales guys might use numbers but there is a reason you're in sales and not in the sciences.
    There's more to science than your ant farm, nerd.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129

    I am not dying and none of my friends are either. So fuck you

    This would get me to take Covid a little more seriously. Not for real seriously, but a little bit more.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Trump got the vaccine available in record time, took it, and recommends it. Trump isn’t a factor.

    The analysis isn't saying Trump is the factor.

    It is saying Trump voters are the factor.

    Trump is smart enough to get vaccinated.

    The same isn't true for a large % of his voting base.
    A majority of black people voted for Trump?