Data wise there was room to say things could have been decent with JonDon last year … I’ll take the L for my LIPO perspective as Montana proved it’s played out
I’ve never got the lazy vibe from this staff … particularly when it comes to recruiting. The vibe I’ve gotten is that the hires haven’t been good enough and we’re bringing a knife to a gun fight on the recruiting trail.
My bigger issue with Jimmy has always been that he talks a big game but continually doesn’t back it up. I’ve heard from too many different people that there’s an arrogance to Jimmy … which by itself isn’t a bad thing. But as he kept doubling down on things are showed an unwillingness to course correct, that arrogance is showing itself to be a fatal flaw. That Jimmy can’t see that and/or doesn’t have anybody around him that he trusts to check him … you just kind of plunge forward until you fall off the cliff
He is now part of the problem. We went through this stupid shit from the peanut gallery with willingham supporters
Forgot about that. Really poor take from Mario. Last night and apparent direction of program has nothing to do with color of skin. Nick Saban, Eddie Robinson, China's world famous diving coach, Russian Gymnast Coach, etc if that is what I'm getting from my teams coach then Houston we have a problem.
Data wise there was room to say things could have been decent with JonDon last year … I’ll take the L for my LIPO perspective as Montana proved it’s played out
I’ve never got the lazy vibe from this staff … particularly when it comes to recruiting. The vibe I’ve gotten is that the hires haven’t been good enough and we’re bringing a knife to a gun fight on the recruiting trail.
My bigger issue with Jimmy has always been that he talks a big game but continually doesn’t back it up. I’ve heard from too many different people that there’s an arrogance to Jimmy … which by itself isn’t a bad thing. But as he kept doubling down on things are showed an unwillingness to course correct, that arrogance is showing itself to be a fatal flaw. That Jimmy can’t see that and/or doesn’t have anybody around him that he trusts to check him … you just kind of plunge forward until you fall off the cliff
JL appears to be all hat no cattle. You've also (and I agree) mentioned smartest man in the room syndrome. If your going to run your mouth with run the damn ball, WR room soooo much better than last year, ditto QB's, best part of team OL, then when last night happens, you don't get the right to have a post game press conference of standard coach speak like he did. There better be "this is 100% my fault alone it will not happen again and I won't ever stop working to make sure it doesn't" answers to the questions.
Data wise there was room to say things could have been decent with JonDon last year … I’ll take the L for my LIPO perspective as Montana proved it’s played out
I’ve never got the lazy vibe from this staff … particularly when it comes to recruiting. The vibe I’ve gotten is that the hires haven’t been good enough and we’re bringing a knife to a gun fight on the recruiting trail.
My bigger issue with Jimmy has always been that he talks a big game but continually doesn’t back it up. I’ve heard from too many different people that there’s an arrogance to Jimmy … which by itself isn’t a bad thing. But as he kept doubling down on things are showed an unwillingness to course correct, that arrogance is showing itself to be a fatal flaw. That Jimmy can’t see that and/or doesn’t have anybody around him that he trusts to check him … you just kind of plunge forward until you fall off the cliff
JL appears to be all hat no cattle. You've also (and I agree) mentioned smartest man in the room syndrome. If your going to run your mouth with run the damn ball, WR room soooo much better than last year, ditto QB's, best part of team OL, then when last night happens, you don't get the right to have a post game press conference of standard coach speak like he did. There better be "this is 100% my fault alone it will not happen again and I won't ever stop working to make sure it doesn't" answers to the questions.
Presser last night was full blown punching the clock to not get in further trouble
Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.
But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.
And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.
Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."
Excellent post. I've been right there with you since being underwhelmed by the comeback wins to shit teams. I was close to quitting the Huskies, even bought Seahawks season tickets (I've hated the whole 12 thing, but I'm thrilled with this decision), after we didn't send a squad to the P12CG. And I've basically stopped posting here as grandpa Race tried for the first time ever to LIPO.
Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.
But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.
And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.
Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."
Excellent post. I've been right there with you since being underwhelmed by the comeback wins to shit teams. I was close to quitting the Huskies, even bought Seahawks season tickets (I've hated the whole 12 thing, but I'm thrilled with this decision), after we didn't send a squad to the P12CG. And I've basically stopped posting here as grandpa Race tried for the first time ever to LIPO.
He reminds me more of Snark, except even Snark wouldn't lost to a Big Sky team. Get creamed by AZ schools? Sure but there was a level of competence that got us out of the doldrums.
This guy needs to go. I don't give a fuck if Montana beats North Dakota Tech and makes the D-1AA playoffs often. They'd be 4-8 in the MW and 2-10 in the weak Pac
He reminds me more of Snark, except even Snark wouldn't lost to a Big Sky team. Get creamed by AZ schools? Sure but there was a level of competence that got us out of the doldrums.
This guy needs to go. I don't give a fuck if Montana beats North Dakota Tech and makes the D-1AA playoffs often. They'd be 4-8 in the MW and 2-10 in the weak Pac
What absolute shitty teams did Sark lose to? WSU & Oregon St (Nick Montana started) come to mind. Were some of the losses to Arizona & ASU come when one of them was absolute dreckfest?
Mario is right here. Some of y'all are closet bigots. Some of y'all call it like it is.
Calling it like it is, is saying fire the coach that loses at home to Montana 13 to 7
Jimmy Lake didn't throw 3 INT.
I’m curious what the over/under week will be when Lake will follow suit and start throwing the players under the bus, especially ones he told us were worldbeaters just before the season. Maybe 3 1/2? 4 1/2?
I want to be clear: I doubt a single person here has been down on Lake because he's black. The language might have fooled some, though. I'm not surprised a black former player might be defensive.
Good clarification. I hate white people, not black people. All things being equal I'd rather have a black head coach be great than another cracker. Yes, I am the worst kind of racist. Don't care. Nobody wanted Jimmy to do well more than me, but its over. He sucks. There is no coming back from a Montana loss ever.
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I’ve never got the lazy vibe from this staff … particularly when it comes to recruiting. The vibe I’ve gotten is that the hires haven’t been good enough and we’re bringing a knife to a gun fight on the recruiting trail.
My bigger issue with Jimmy has always been that he talks a big game but continually doesn’t back it up. I’ve heard from too many different people that there’s an arrogance to Jimmy … which by itself isn’t a bad thing. But as he kept doubling down on things are showed an unwillingness to course correct, that arrogance is showing itself to be a fatal flaw. That Jimmy can’t see that and/or doesn’t have anybody around him that he trusts to check him … you just kind of plunge forward until you fall off the cliff
He definitely is arrogant. Far too arrogant for his results.
Either way focusing on adjectives is a huge waste of
Time. He needs to be fired. As does the AD more importantly.
All hat not cattle is spot on
This guy needs to go. I don't give a fuck if Montana beats North Dakota Tech and makes the D-1AA playoffs often. They'd be 4-8 in the MW and 2-10 in the weak Pac
Jimmy Lake hires the coaches, names the starters and approves the offensive and defensive schemes.
The buck fucking stops with Jimmy Lake.