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Mario Bailey's comments on Twitter

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,388 Founders Club
Mario strongly implied that anyone criticizing Coach Lake was doing so because of racism.

Mario said that if someone hasn't played football for UW then they do not have the right to criticize.

As if some white coach who has a disastrous recruiting class, hires the NY Jets groundskeeper as his OC, and then caps it off with a loss to Montana, isn't going to be heavily criticized?

Mario and his enabling behavior is part of the overall culture problem at UW.
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  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,485
    Never heard of this dude.

    Searched.....

    Mario Bailey is a retired American football wide receiver who is the all-time reception leader in NFL Europe. He played for the Frankfurt Galaxy from 1995 through 2000 and was a favorite player for the local German fans. He was originally drafted by the Houston Oilers in the sixth round of the 1992 NFL Draft. Wikipedia

    Now I know why.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    definitely racism
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Mario strongly implied that anyone criticizing Coach Lake was doing so because of racism.

    Mario said that if someone hasn't played football for UW then they do not have the right to criticize.

    As if some white coach who has a disastrous recruiting class, hires the NY Jets groundskeeper as his OC, and then caps it off with a loss to Montana, isn't going to be heavily criticized?

    Mario and his enabling behavior is part of the overall culture problem at UW.

    He also later created spin when someone called him out for implying the race card

    Nobody wants to see Jimmy fail … but at some point results matter
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    I want to be clear: I doubt a single person here has been down on Lake because he's black. The language might have fooled some, though. I'm not surprised a black former player might be defensive.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.

    But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.

    And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.

    Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."

    Solid post

    You and I were right about the myth of the great talent

    And the lazy remarks pissed me off which is why I went after that poster

    Then we lost to Montana

    Just keep the call for firing classy Nebraska fans
  • no_uh
    no_uh Member Posts: 769
    edited September 2021
    It's just a lazy comparison that I have been guilty of as well because it's now plausible that UW goes 0-12.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.

    But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.

    And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.

    Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."

    Solid post

    You and I were right about the myth of the great talent

    And the lazy remarks pissed me off which is why I went after that poster

    Then we lost to Montana

    Just keep the call for firing classy Nebraska fans
    The lazy remarks have persisted to this day, from multiple posters. It's a consensus, not an outlier.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club

    Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.

    But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.

    And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.

    Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."

    Solid post

    You and I were right about the myth of the great talent

    And the lazy remarks pissed me off which is why I went after that poster

    Then we lost to Montana

    Just keep the call for firing classy Nebraska fans
    Why is asking if someone who happens to be black racist? It takes a lot of effort and commitment to be great at anything.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.

    But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.

    And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.

    Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."

    Solid post

    You and I were right about the myth of the great talent

    And the lazy remarks pissed me off which is why I went after that poster

    Then we lost to Montana

    Just keep the call for firing classy Nebraska fans
    The lazy remarks have persisted to this day, from multiple posters. It's a consensus, not an outlier.
    Is he lazy or is the charge unjustified? I recall Helfrich and he staff being called a "lazy" recruiters. Can you call a black person lazy if they are lazy?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    He is now part of the problem. We went through this stupid shit from the peanut gallery with willingham supporters
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    I don’t know if he is lazy or not, but I would guess any coach that loses at home to Montana is lazy. Honestly it should have been by two scores.

    He definitely is arrogant. Far too arrogant for his results.

    Either way focusing on adjectives is a huge waste of
    Time. He needs to be fired. As does the AD more importantly.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam

    He is now part of the problem. We went through this stupid shit from the peanut gallery with willingham supporters

    Forgot about that. Really poor take from Mario. Last night and apparent direction of program has nothing to do with color of skin. Nick Saban, Eddie Robinson, China's world famous diving coach, Russian Gymnast Coach, etc if that is what I'm getting from my teams coach then Houston we have a problem.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I don’t know if he is lazy or not, but I would guess any coach that loses at home to Montana is lazy. Honestly it should have been by two scores.

    He definitely is arrogant. Far too arrogant for his results.

    Either way focusing on adjectives is a huge waste of
    Time. He needs to be fired. As does the AD more importantly.

    The helmet car is so cool though!
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    Data wise there was room to say things could have been decent with JonDon last year … I’ll take the L for my LIPO perspective as Montana proved it’s played out

    I’ve never got the lazy vibe from this staff … particularly when it comes to recruiting. The vibe I’ve gotten is that the hires haven’t been good enough and we’re bringing a knife to a gun fight on the recruiting trail.

    My bigger issue with Jimmy has always been that he talks a big game but continually doesn’t back it up. I’ve heard from too many different people that there’s an arrogance to Jimmy … which by itself isn’t a bad thing. But as he kept doubling down on things are showed an unwillingness to course correct, that arrogance is showing itself to be a fatal flaw. That Jimmy can’t see that and/or doesn’t have anybody around him that he trusts to check him … you just kind of plunge forward until you fall off the cliff

    JL appears to be all hat no cattle. You've also (and I agree) mentioned smartest man in the room syndrome. If your going to run your mouth with run the damn ball, WR room soooo much better than last year, ditto QB's, best part of team OL, then when last night happens, you don't get the right to have a post game press conference of standard coach speak like he did. There better be "this is 100% my fault alone it will not happen again and I won't ever stop working to make sure it doesn't" answers to the questions.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    All hat and no cattle was like Jim Mora Jr. except he had more sizzle in recruiting. Yikes.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    godawgst said:

    Tequilla said:

    Data wise there was room to say things could have been decent with JonDon last year … I’ll take the L for my LIPO perspective as Montana proved it’s played out

    I’ve never got the lazy vibe from this staff … particularly when it comes to recruiting. The vibe I’ve gotten is that the hires haven’t been good enough and we’re bringing a knife to a gun fight on the recruiting trail.

    My bigger issue with Jimmy has always been that he talks a big game but continually doesn’t back it up. I’ve heard from too many different people that there’s an arrogance to Jimmy … which by itself isn’t a bad thing. But as he kept doubling down on things are showed an unwillingness to course correct, that arrogance is showing itself to be a fatal flaw. That Jimmy can’t see that and/or doesn’t have anybody around him that he trusts to check him … you just kind of plunge forward until you fall off the cliff

    JL appears to be all hat no cattle. You've also (and I agree) mentioned smartest man in the room syndrome. If your going to run your mouth with run the damn ball, WR room soooo much better than last year, ditto QB's, best part of team OL, then when last night happens, you don't get the right to have a post game press conference of standard coach speak like he did. There better be "this is 100% my fault alone it will not happen again and I won't ever stop working to make sure it doesn't" answers to the questions.
    Presser last night was full blown punching the clock to not get in further trouble

    All hat not cattle is spot on
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,101
    Emoterman said:

    Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.

    But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.

    And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.

    Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."

    Excellent post. I've been right there with you since being underwhelmed by the comeback wins to shit teams. I was close to quitting the Huskies, even bought Seahawks season tickets (I've hated the whole 12 thing, but I'm thrilled with this decision), after we didn't send a squad to the P12CG. And I've basically stopped posting here as grandpa Race tried for the first time ever to LIPO.

    www.firejimmy.com
    It’s been noticed and you’ve been missed.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,288 Founders Club

    Emoterman said:

    Mario's right, but about the wrong thing. I'm on record that three out of four of the games LAST season were fireable offenses (first and right, btw), but everyone gave a COVID pass for reasons that are still beyond me and instead bitched about the less important aspect of winning that is recruiting (see also: Oregon and USC). Some even were complimentary of the new offense (you know who you are), dooged out over big-dick comebacks (ignoring how inexcusable it is to dig 17 and 21 point first half holes in the first place), and got a boner over the ice-in-veins QB who couldn't play more than one good quarter per game or resist the urge to overthrow every deep ball he attempted.

    But, no, it was the recruiting that's the real failure, not just one of many.

    And, right or wrong, the language people used to express this frustration--at least here--has been a little loaded, or at least I could see how it would seem so to certain people. The word "lazy" in particular is one known to get the hackles up, yet it came up early and often, in a way that made it seem as if conclusions were being jumped to. Comparisons to Ty aren't helping those optics, either, particularly because their respective incompetence is nothing alike.

    Lake needs to be fired. Today. Cohen is ultimately responsible, so start with her. New coach can choose what assistants to boot or keep. But this message would resonate better with some fans and former players if the critics focused from the beginning on coaching, hiring, and, sure, recruiting incompetence instead of, "The offense is improved, the quarterback has a huge dick, this team should roll the conference--oh, but he's lazy and Ty 2.0."

    Excellent post. I've been right there with you since being underwhelmed by the comeback wins to shit teams. I was close to quitting the Huskies, even bought Seahawks season tickets (I've hated the whole 12 thing, but I'm thrilled with this decision), after we didn't send a squad to the P12CG. And I've basically stopped posting here as grandpa Race tried for the first time ever to LIPO.

    www.firejimmy.com
    It’s been noticed and you’ve been missed.
    Especially in the Wam