So how is this Trump's fault?
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How did he fuck up? What could have been done to prevent what’s happening?RaceBannon said:
Hey dumbass this isn't about whether to leave. We already got the talking pointsRubberfist said:This is 100% in the MAGA America First playbook. It’s fun to see the completely disingenuous pearl clutching at the results but stop lying to yourselves that you’d be as outraged if Trump had done this. This is EXACTLY what you guys wanted. We’ve been in this country for 20 years; what could have been done differently that wouldn’t have cause the Taliban to take over? It sucks but Afghanistan isn’t called the Graveyard of Empires for nothing.
It's about how Joe completely fucked it up.
Everyone knew they were taking over.
Suck harder
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Please see “The Taliban” link (3).
To quote Kaepskner:
“One where we don’t leave Billions of dollars of equipment and data behind.
“Also one where we don’t need to deploy 3,000 troops to get the cock sucker diplomats out.
“It would have been pretty easy to accomplish this.”
Also one where the POTUS and General Milley don’t run their ignorant, lying mouths prior to the withdrawal.
Hope this helps.
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If only there were 2 threads on thisRubberfist said:
How did he fuck up? What could have been done to prevent what’s happening?RaceBannon said:
Hey dumbass this isn't about whether to leave. We already got the talking pointsRubberfist said:This is 100% in the MAGA America First playbook. It’s fun to see the completely disingenuous pearl clutching at the results but stop lying to yourselves that you’d be as outraged if Trump had done this. This is EXACTLY what you guys wanted. We’ve been in this country for 20 years; what could have been done differently that wouldn’t have cause the Taliban to take over? It sucks but Afghanistan isn’t called the Graveyard of Empires for nothing.
It's about how Joe completely fucked it up.
Everyone knew they were taking over.
Suck harder
I’m sure your answer is gonna be awesome. -
Its funny watching the rats lie for that fucking idiot biden. He was on tv just last night telling Americans that the taliban didn't stand a chance of taking over the country. Meanwhile in the last three weeks they have taken over 2/3 of the country.
For you rats who are questioning what we could have done differently? If your leadership would quit politicizing war and let our military do what they were trained to do which is to go in and wipe the bad guys off the face of the planet, we wouldn't be in this situation right now. Who in the hell ever heard of not firing a gun at the enemy until they shoot us first? Fucking rats screw up everything and have cost thousands of lives. -
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance. -
As one of the only residents of this shithole that has actually been to Afghanistan, much less done anything there, I have some thoughts.
Trump was correct in his assertion we should leave. We should have left years ago. Now, I hate leaving it, in a way, because in many ways it makes the tremendous sacrifice this country made in blood and treasure meaningless. But, when I set those feelings aside, and stop focusing of the flag draped coffins I've personally seen, getting out of there is the only correct choice. We cannot support feckless weak governments the world over with our military. The military is not a police force, or an infrastructure contractor.
We have a military for two central reasons, to fight and win Americas wars, and to project power to our enemies and allies to achieve political and economic goals short of kinetic force. Well, the military did it's job and won the war, 18 fucking years ago. You could try to strain credulity and claim there is some meaningful and important power projection being done from Afghanistan, but news flash there isn't. It isn't some immensely important strategic chokepoint. It isn't a bulwark against a clear and present danger. We should leave.
If the Afghans don't want to be under Taliban control they should do something about it. They had the best military in the world train and supply them for well over a decade. If you can't win now, you don't deserve your country. I have empathy for all the people who will be forced to live under the Talibans barbaric, backwards and disgusting rule, but America can't fix everything. Via con dios.
There is retreating with honor, retreating with dishonor, and retreating with stupidity. We are currently leaving with a mix of mostly honor and stupidity. Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. Is that Biden's fault? Well, in the Harry Truman sense of "the buck stops here" yes he is culpable for it. Ultimately. Reality is the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders issue the orders and they have royally fucked this one in the ass. But they serve at the pleasure of our dementia patient, so he bears the ultimate blame. Blaming Trump for this mess is laughable, and only a moron or liar would do it. Trump fucked a bunch of stuff up, but this isn't one of them. He negotiated an exit, and the American people decided it would be better to leave it to a new Administration to execute it. The Administration tasked with executing it currently looks like a monkey trying to fuck two footballs at once. You can of course disagree with my assessment, but you will be wrong.
Finis. -
In case the fucking idiots with Cho Bai Den semen dribbling off their respective chins didn't get it the first time:Swaye said:As one of the only residents of this shithole that has actually been to Afghanistan, much less done anything there, I have some thoughts.
Trump was correct in his assertion we should leave. We should have left years ago. Now, I hate leaving it, in a way, because in many ways it makes the tremendous sacrifice this country made in blood and treasure meaningless. But, when I set those feelings aside, and stop focusing of the flag draped coffins I've personally seen, getting out of there is the only correct choice. We cannot support feckless weak governments the world over with our military. The military is not a police force, or an infrastructure contractor.
We have a military for two central reasons, to fight and win Americas wars, and to project power to our enemies and allies to achieve political and economic goals short of kinetic force. Well, the military did it's job and won the war, 18 fucking years ago. You could try to strain credulity and claim there is some meaningful and important power projection being done from Afghanistan, but news flash there isn't. It isn't some immensely important strategic chokepoint. It isn't a bulwark against a clear and present danger. We should leave.
If the Afghans don't want to be under Taliban control they should do something about it. They had the best military in the world train and supply them for well over a decade. If you can't win now, you don't deserve your country. I have empathy for all the people who will be forced to live under the Talibans barbaric, backwards and disgusting rule, but America can't fix everything. Via con dios.
There is retreating with honor, retreating with dishonor, and retreating with stupidity. We are currently leaving with a mix of mostly honor and stupidity. Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. Is that Biden's fault? Well, in the Harry Truman sense of "the buck stops here" yes he is culpable for it. Ultimately. Reality is the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders issue the orders and they have royally fucked this one in the ass. But they serve at the pleasure of our dementia patient, so he bears the ultimate blame. Blaming Trump for this mess is laughable, and only a moron or liar would do it. Trump fucked a bunch of stuff up, but this isn't one of them. He negotiated an exit, and the American people decided it would be better to leave it to a new Administration to execute it. The Administration tasked with executing it currently looks like a monkey trying to fuck two footballs at once. You can of course disagree with my assessment, but you will be wrong.
Finis.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. -
BrilliantSwaye said:As one of the only residents of this shithole that has actually been to Afghanistan, much less done anything there, I have some thoughts.
Trump was correct in his assertion we should leave. We should have left years ago. Now, I hate leaving it, in a way, because in many ways it makes the tremendous sacrifice this country made in blood and treasure meaningless. But, when I set those feelings aside, and stop focusing of the flag draped coffins I've personally seen, getting out of there is the only correct choice. We cannot support feckless weak governments the world over with our military. The military is not a police force, or an infrastructure contractor.
We have a military for two central reasons, to fight and win Americas wars, and to project power to our enemies and allies to achieve political and economic goals short of kinetic force. Well, the military did it's job and won the war, 18 fucking years ago. You could try to strain credulity and claim there is some meaningful and important power projection being done from Afghanistan, but news flash there isn't. It isn't some immensely important strategic chokepoint. It isn't a bulwark against a clear and present danger. We should leave.
If the Afghans don't want to be under Taliban control they should do something about it. They had the best military in the world train and supply them for well over a decade. If you can't win now, you don't deserve your country. I have empathy for all the people who will be forced to live under the Talibans barbaric, backwards and disgusting rule, but America can't fix everything. Via con dios.
There is retreating with honor, retreating with dishonor, and retreating with stupidity. We are currently leaving with a mix of mostly honor and stupidity. Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. Is that Biden's fault? Well, in the Harry Truman sense of "the buck stops here" yes he is culpable for it. Ultimately. Reality is the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders issue the orders and they have royally fucked this one in the ass. But they serve at the pleasure of our dementia patient, so he bears the ultimate blame. Blaming Trump for this mess is laughable, and only a moron or liar would do it. Trump fucked a bunch of stuff up, but this isn't one of them. He negotiated an exit, and the American people decided it would be better to leave it to a new Administration to execute it. The Administration tasked with executing it currently looks like a monkey trying to fuck two footballs at once. You can of course disagree with my assessment, but you will be wrong.
Finis. -
Exactly this.Bendintheriver said:Its funny watching the rats lie for that fucking idiot biden. He was on tv just last night telling Americans that the taliban didn't stand a chance of taking over the country. Meanwhile in the last three weeks they have taken over 2/3 of the country.
For you rats who are questioning what we could have done differently? If your leadership would quit politicizing war and let our military do what they were trained to do which is to go in and wipe the bad guys off the face of the planet, we wouldn't be in this situation right now. Who in the hell ever heard of not firing a gun at the enemy until they shoot us first? Fucking rats screw up everything and have cost thousands of lives.
The Taliban knows damn well Sloe Joe won't do a damn thing. Owned by the Russians and every other shitbag enemy of ours Joe is powerless. With Obunghole pulling the strings he's pulling for Mooselimb control.
Ask ISIS how Trump killed them they'll talk of it for generations. -
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
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Pathetic
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That's shit thrown at the wall by the left. All fake. All made up.Rubberfist said:
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
Try something they have actual evidence for? Not manufactured by Shitf an Piglosi?
Imagine an election actually being stolen. It was and the evidence keeps popping up.
Hold onto you skirt it's gonna get bumpy soon sweetheart! -
I appreciate your perspective. I have the same exasperation with the Afghans themselves. But exasperation, however human, is not a policy.Swaye said:As one of the only residents of this shithole that has actually been to Afghanistan, much less done anything there, I have some thoughts.
Trump was correct in his assertion we should leave. We should have left years ago. Now, I hate leaving it, in a way, because in many ways it makes the tremendous sacrifice this country made in blood and treasure meaningless. But, when I set those feelings aside, and stop focusing of the flag draped coffins I've personally seen, getting out of there is the only correct choice. We cannot support feckless weak governments the world over with our military. The military is not a police force, or an infrastructure contractor.
We have a military for two central reasons, to fight and win Americas wars, and to project power to our enemies and allies to achieve political and economic goals short of kinetic force. Well, the military did it's job and won the war, 18 fucking years ago. You could try to strain credulity and claim there is some meaningful and important power projection being done from Afghanistan, but news flash there isn't. It isn't some immensely important strategic chokepoint. It isn't a bulwark against a clear and present danger. We should leave.
If the Afghans don't want to be under Taliban control they should do something about it. They had the best military in the world train and supply them for well over a decade. If you can't win now, you don't deserve your country. I have empathy for all the people who will be forced to live under the Talibans barbaric, backwards and disgusting rule, but America can't fix everything. Via con dios.
There is retreating with honor, retreating with dishonor, and retreating with stupidity. We are currently leaving with a mix of mostly honor and stupidity. Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. Is that Biden's fault? Well, in the Harry Truman sense of "the buck stops here" yes he is culpable for it. Ultimately. Reality is the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders issue the orders and they have royally fucked this one in the ass. But they serve at the pleasure of our dementia patient, so he bears the ultimate blame. Blaming Trump for this mess is laughable, and only a moron or liar would do it. Trump fucked a bunch of stuff up, but this isn't one of them. He negotiated an exit, and the American people decided it would be better to leave it to a new Administration to execute it. The Administration tasked with executing it currently looks like a monkey trying to fuck two footballs at once. You can of course disagree with my assessment, but you will be wrong.
Finis. -
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.Rubberfist said:
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
Cho Bai Den is the POTUS now.
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Bidens a piece of shit. But I don't give a fuck how we leave. Just get out and let them get back to their 8th century ways
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This guy was a detective.Sledog said:Rubberfist said:
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
Imagine an election actually being stolen. It was and the evidence keeps popping up.
And yet some wonder why wrongful convictions are so numerous. -
Stalin wants to know if you care about the Taiwanese.Pitchfork51 said:Bidens a piece of shit. But I don't give a fuck how we leave. Just get out and let them get back to their 8th century ways
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This guy is a “lawyer”.HHusky said:
This guy was a detective.Sledog said:Rubberfist said:
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
Imagine an election actually being stolen. It was and the evidence keeps popping up.
And yet some wonder why wrongful convictions are so numerous.
And yet some wonder why the public ranks lawyers the lowest in favorability among the “professions”. -
This is what you have? The man believed as do millions of Americans, that rats cheated. We know for fact you cheat so you rats aren't trustworthy. He didn't force anyone to do anything.Rubberfist said:
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
Try again Junior, you fucked up your first try.
Ukraine? That was determined to be fake news or didn't you follow the story? The President of Ukraine actually said Trump never spoke of a quid pro quo, but what does he know right? You and your fellow rats were just certain Trump did. The recipient of the so called quid pro quo disagrees with you.
So much criminal activity and corruption with that fucking idiot biden and his family, so much corruption in the BO term and you rats can't leave Trump alone after being 0-3 on past false accusations. Fucking pathetic. -
It's how I know how terrible shitty attorneys are.HHusky said:
This guy was a detective.Sledog said:Rubberfist said:
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
Imagine an election actually being stolen. It was and the evidence keeps popping up.
And yet some wonder why wrongful convictions are so numerous. -
Correct, it’s the generals who devised this plan who were more concerned with CRT and white rage than they were in securing Afghanistan.HHusky said:
I'm sorry that you're having trouble focusing. It's not our military that's being run off the field.SFGbob said:
More open Trannies serving and General's focusing on "white rage" would have done it.HHusky said:
The Afghans aren't getting routed because we're not retreating well enough, blob.SFGbob said:
Who's in charge cocksucker? If we both have a plan to paint the house and your plan involves you burning down the house it's not my fault just because I too had a plan to paint the house. Own it, you voted for a guy who is turning everything he touches to shit. The economy, the border, foreign policy, domestic policy you name it and Biden is making it worse.HHusky said:
We're leaving. It's a withdrawal, blob. That's the plan and that's what was prepared for. It's what Daddy negotiated and what Joe is doing.SFGbob said:
Good thing Biden's Joint Chief's were well prepared for it, right Dazzler? Do you enjoy sucking an old senile man's dick Dazzler?HHusky said:If you haven't been reading the news, blob, the most significant part of this disaster is that the Afghan government is getting rolled. What was Daddy's plan for that?
How well or poorly the withdrawal is executed is beside the point. We are making a mistake by withdrawing. That's been obvious since we agreed to do it.
Daddy was wrong to agree to it and was wrong in not actually enforcing his deal. Joe is wrong not to have called a halt to it.
Better to have never gone in at all than to leave this way. -
Trump’s faultPurpleThrobber said:
In case the fucking idiots with Cho Bai Den semen dribbling off their respective chins didn't get it the first time:Swaye said:As one of the only residents of this shithole that has actually been to Afghanistan, much less done anything there, I have some thoughts.
Trump was correct in his assertion we should leave. We should have left years ago. Now, I hate leaving it, in a way, because in many ways it makes the tremendous sacrifice this country made in blood and treasure meaningless. But, when I set those feelings aside, and stop focusing of the flag draped coffins I've personally seen, getting out of there is the only correct choice. We cannot support feckless weak governments the world over with our military. The military is not a police force, or an infrastructure contractor.
We have a military for two central reasons, to fight and win Americas wars, and to project power to our enemies and allies to achieve political and economic goals short of kinetic force. Well, the military did it's job and won the war, 18 fucking years ago. You could try to strain credulity and claim there is some meaningful and important power projection being done from Afghanistan, but news flash there isn't. It isn't some immensely important strategic chokepoint. It isn't a bulwark against a clear and present danger. We should leave.
If the Afghans don't want to be under Taliban control they should do something about it. They had the best military in the world train and supply them for well over a decade. If you can't win now, you don't deserve your country. I have empathy for all the people who will be forced to live under the Talibans barbaric, backwards and disgusting rule, but America can't fix everything. Via con dios.
There is retreating with honor, retreating with dishonor, and retreating with stupidity. We are currently leaving with a mix of mostly honor and stupidity. Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. Is that Biden's fault? Well, in the Harry Truman sense of "the buck stops here" yes he is culpable for it. Ultimately. Reality is the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders issue the orders and they have royally fucked this one in the ass. But they serve at the pleasure of our dementia patient, so he bears the ultimate blame. Blaming Trump for this mess is laughable, and only a moron or liar would do it. Trump fucked a bunch of stuff up, but this isn't one of them. He negotiated an exit, and the American people decided it would be better to leave it to a new Administration to execute it. The Administration tasked with executing it currently looks like a monkey trying to fuck two footballs at once. You can of course disagree with my assessment, but you will be wrong.
Finis.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions.
Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. -
You’re full of shit.HHusky said:
I appreciate your perspective. I have the same exasperation with the Afghans themselves. But exasperation, however human, is not a policy.Swaye said:As one of the only residents of this shithole that has actually been to Afghanistan, much less done anything there, I have some thoughts.
Trump was correct in his assertion we should leave. We should have left years ago. Now, I hate leaving it, in a way, because in many ways it makes the tremendous sacrifice this country made in blood and treasure meaningless. But, when I set those feelings aside, and stop focusing of the flag draped coffins I've personally seen, getting out of there is the only correct choice. We cannot support feckless weak governments the world over with our military. The military is not a police force, or an infrastructure contractor.
We have a military for two central reasons, to fight and win Americas wars, and to project power to our enemies and allies to achieve political and economic goals short of kinetic force. Well, the military did it's job and won the war, 18 fucking years ago. You could try to strain credulity and claim there is some meaningful and important power projection being done from Afghanistan, but news flash there isn't. It isn't some immensely important strategic chokepoint. It isn't a bulwark against a clear and present danger. We should leave.
If the Afghans don't want to be under Taliban control they should do something about it. They had the best military in the world train and supply them for well over a decade. If you can't win now, you don't deserve your country. I have empathy for all the people who will be forced to live under the Talibans barbaric, backwards and disgusting rule, but America can't fix everything. Via con dios.
There is retreating with honor, retreating with dishonor, and retreating with stupidity. We are currently leaving with a mix of mostly honor and stupidity. Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. Is that Biden's fault? Well, in the Harry Truman sense of "the buck stops here" yes he is culpable for it. Ultimately. Reality is the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders issue the orders and they have royally fucked this one in the ass. But they serve at the pleasure of our dementia patient, so he bears the ultimate blame. Blaming Trump for this mess is laughable, and only a moron or liar would do it. Trump fucked a bunch of stuff up, but this isn't one of them. He negotiated an exit, and the American people decided it would be better to leave it to a new Administration to execute it. The Administration tasked with executing it currently looks like a monkey trying to fuck two footballs at once. You can of course disagree with my assessment, but you will be wrong.
Finis.
You know it.
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If you didn't already know from the very beginning that all of this was going to happen, then you're a dumb and gullible motherfucker. How many fucking examples do you need?
Fucking Afghanistan.
Yeah - let's go there. Where everyone in the history of the planet has gone the get bogged down and frustrated. It'll be different for us, though.
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This is the only response that matters. Quibbling about whether Trump should've negotiated a winter withdrawal date or some other minutiae is a complete red herring. This was going to happen one way or another, and was 20 years in the making.Swaye said:As one of the only residents of this shithole that has actually been to Afghanistan, much less done anything there, I have some thoughts.
Trump was correct in his assertion we should leave. We should have left years ago. Now, I hate leaving it, in a way, because in many ways it makes the tremendous sacrifice this country made in blood and treasure meaningless. But, when I set those feelings aside, and stop focusing of the flag draped coffins I've personally seen, getting out of there is the only correct choice. We cannot support feckless weak governments the world over with our military. The military is not a police force, or an infrastructure contractor.
We have a military for two central reasons, to fight and win Americas wars, and to project power to our enemies and allies to achieve political and economic goals short of kinetic force. Well, the military did it's job and won the war, 18 fucking years ago. You could try to strain credulity and claim there is some meaningful and important power projection being done from Afghanistan, but news flash there isn't. It isn't some immensely important strategic chokepoint. It isn't a bulwark against a clear and present danger. We should leave.
If the Afghans don't want to be under Taliban control they should do something about it. They had the best military in the world train and supply them for well over a decade. If you can't win now, you don't deserve your country. I have empathy for all the people who will be forced to live under the Talibans barbaric, backwards and disgusting rule, but America can't fix everything. Via con dios.
There is retreating with honor, retreating with dishonor, and retreating with stupidity. We are currently leaving with a mix of mostly honor and stupidity. Leaving weapons of war behind for your enemies is absolute fail of epic proportions. Is that Biden's fault? Well, in the Harry Truman sense of "the buck stops here" yes he is culpable for it. Ultimately. Reality is the Joint Chiefs and Combatant Commanders issue the orders and they have royally fucked this one in the ass. But they serve at the pleasure of our dementia patient, so he bears the ultimate blame. Blaming Trump for this mess is laughable, and only a moron or liar would do it. Trump fucked a bunch of stuff up, but this isn't one of them. He negotiated an exit, and the American people decided it would be better to leave it to a new Administration to execute it. The Administration tasked with executing it currently looks like a monkey trying to fuck two footballs at once. You can of course disagree with my assessment, but you will be wrong.
Finis.
What's alarming is how fast this is all unfolding to shit. Joe's job was to know this was going to happen, and it's pretty clear he didn't have a fucking clue. That complete disconnect between the commander in chief and the actual situation on the ground concerns me a lot more than the specific Afghan mess, which was going to end in Taliban tik tok dances regardless. -
You knew that Joe was going to leave behind billions of dollars of military hardware for the Taliban to use? Fuck off.dflea said:If you didn't already know from the very beginning that all of this was going to happen, then you're a dumb and gullible motherfucker. How many fucking examples do you need?
Fucking Afghanistan.
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Joe apparently had no idea this was going to happen and as he always does he provided a video
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Guy demands proof of Trump’s corruption and this guy is so serious that he wants just facts and none of your lib cuck “feelings.” Guy is presented with evidence of said corruption and defends it with… feelings. You see Trump and his idiots “feel” that the election was stolen so all efforts to steal it back are totally legitimate. We’ve waited 9 months for one shred of evidence and so far there is nothing. Hopefully the clownshow AZ audit comes back with lots of “irregularities” that you guys can jerk off to.Bendintheriver said:
This is what you have? The man believed as do millions of Americans, that rats cheated. We know for fact you cheat so you rats aren't trustworthy. He didn't force anyone to do anything.Rubberfist said:
Sorry to hear about your coma; I’m sure your family is “thrilled” that you’re back. You’ve missed a wild 5 years so I’ll give you some handy search terms to help you on your journey.Bendintheriver said:
Jeezus HH, grow up. That fucking idiot biden is unfortunately President. Be an adult and take responsibility for your vote.HHusky said:National humiliation.
blob mostly concerned that notoriously corrupt former President who negotiated the withdrawal not be blamed.
Since you brought it up, please give us some examples of Trumps corruption. Not looking for your FEELINGS here ok? Thank you in advance.
Google:
Trump extorts Ukraine official: he actually got impeached for this one
Trump pressures AZ officials
Trump pressures GA officials
Trump pressures DOJ to lie about election
Trump pressures Atlanta US attorney: we just learned about this one and it’s a fucking doozy.
The last four all fall under the umbrella of trying to steal an election which is fairly corrupt.
Let me know when you’re done checking these out and I can provide some more.
Try again Junior, you fucked up your first try.
Ukraine? That was determined to be fake news or didn't you follow the story? The President of Ukraine actually said Trump never spoke of a quid pro quo, but what does he know right? You and your fellow rats were just certain Trump did. The recipient of the so called quid pro quo disagrees with you.
So much criminal activity and corruption with that fucking idiot biden and his family, so much corruption in the BO term and you rats can't leave Trump alone after being 0-3 on past false accusations. Fucking pathetic. -
Don't you think the targeting penalty is also contributing to this lack of valor?SFGbob said:
Correct, it’s the generals who devised this plan who were more concerned with CRT and white rage than they were in securing Afghanistan.HHusky said:
I'm sorry that you're having trouble focusing. It's not our military that's being run off the field.SFGbob said:
More open Trannies serving and General's focusing on "white rage" would have done it.HHusky said:
The Afghans aren't getting routed because we're not retreating well enough, blob.SFGbob said:
Who's in charge cocksucker? If we both have a plan to paint the house and your plan involves you burning down the house it's not my fault just because I too had a plan to paint the house. Own it, you voted for a guy who is turning everything he touches to shit. The economy, the border, foreign policy, domestic policy you name it and Biden is making it worse.HHusky said:
We're leaving. It's a withdrawal, blob. That's the plan and that's what was prepared for. It's what Daddy negotiated and what Joe is doing.SFGbob said:
Good thing Biden's Joint Chief's were well prepared for it, right Dazzler? Do you enjoy sucking an old senile man's dick Dazzler?HHusky said:If you haven't been reading the news, blob, the most significant part of this disaster is that the Afghan government is getting rolled. What was Daddy's plan for that?
How well or poorly the withdrawal is executed is beside the point. We are making a mistake by withdrawing. That's been obvious since we agreed to do it.
Daddy was wrong to agree to it and was wrong in not actually enforcing his deal. Joe is wrong not to have called a halt to it.
Better to have never gone in at all than to leave this way.
