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Kyle Kulinski on a debate about libertarian socialism and freedom

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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,178 Standard Supporter
    There is no freedom with socialism or communism.

    "Marx wrote about freedom" LOL!!!!!!! Jeezus..........

    Comparing corporations to a tyrannical government.................uh yeah, right. No.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Didn’t watch your propaganda.

    You’ve admitted you will do or say anything to see America in ruins.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,260 Founders Club
    So confused on what the transition looks like still.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,911 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2021
    If you can't keep what you earn, you won't earn it. One of the most basic rules of human behavior. I'm much more interested in painting my house than painting your house. I know - a shocking insight. Now you help me paint my house, then I will help you paint your house. That's called free trade which benefits both parties. That's what socialists miss. When people buy stuff, they do so because that trade makes them better. I want a T-Bone ($5.77 a pound this week at Safeway) I go buy it and take it home and revel in the deliciousness. Commies think that I just got taken and that it should be free. Do that and there is no Safeway and no T-Bone steak for dinner.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,260 Founders Club

    If you can't keep what you earn, you won't earn it. One of the most basic rules of human behavior. I'm much more interested in painting my house than painting your house. I know - a shocking insight. Now you help me paint my house, then I will help you paint your house. That's called free trade which benefits both parties. That's what socialists miss. When people buy stuff, they do so because that trade makes them better. I want a T-Bone ($5.77 a pound this week at Safeway) I go buy it and take it home and revel in the deliciousness. Commies think that I just got taken and that it should be free. Do that and there is no Safeway and no T-Bone steak for dinner.

    All that plus the annoyance of cash outflows that’s are required at the ranch for input with a long lead for the cash flow in.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,911 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    If you can't keep what you earn, you won't earn it. One of the most basic rules of human behavior. I'm much more interested in painting my house than painting your house. I know - a shocking insight. Now you help me paint my house, then I will help you paint your house. That's called free trade which benefits both parties. That's what socialists miss. When people buy stuff, they do so because that trade makes them better. I want a T-Bone ($5.77 a pound this week at Safeway) I go buy it and take it home and revel in the deliciousness. Commies think that I just got taken and that it should be free. Do that and there is no Safeway and no T-Bone steak for dinner.

    All that plus the annoyance of cash outflows that’s are required at the ranch for input with a long lead for the cash flow in.
    Exactly. Plus when there is no possibility of cash flow in, there is no cash flow out to begin with to make the investment. Venezuela's oil production has crashed because the Venezuelan government stopped paying the American oil companies who were managing the Venezuelan oil fields. No pay, no work. So, Venezuela is sitting on the world's largest oil reserves (which they stole) and they can't get it out of the ground because think they should get free oil. Hence, no oil.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club
    How do you plan and distribute goods in a socialist system without authoritarianism?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,911 Standard Supporter

    How do you plan and distribute goods in a socialist system without authoritarianism?
    The Slobberer can't answer that question honestly because he has never thought about the real world economy and how it works. The easy and bad result answer is of course authoritarianism. Look at how well consumer goods moved around the Soviet Union.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club

    How do you plan and distribute goods in a socialist system without authoritarianism?
    The Slobberer can't answer that question honestly because he has never thought about the real world economy and how it works. The easy and bad result answer is of course authoritarianism. Look at how well consumer goods moved around the Soviet Union.
    Shhhhhh let him answer.

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