It’s not REAL socialism though

WestlinnDuck said:

TurdBomber said:

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

RoadTrip said:

TurdBomber said:

I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

Pathetic.

How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.

Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.

Bill Clinton was who he thought he had to be at the time he was running for President. Welfare Reform was forced on him by the GOP. You only need to look to how Biden is governing now and where is he was publicly back in the early 90s to realize that neither Biden nor Clinton have any core convictions.

Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.

Actually you can thank Reagan and then Newt although Clinton reluctantly signed the budget bills. Who knew that lowering the tax rate and reducing regulations and slowing government spending was good for the private sector economy.

That's an old anti-Clinton trope, I'm well acquainted with, but those Adam & Eve arguments are pretty myopic and lame. Give credit where it's due. Clinton raised marginal rates a bit to reduce the debt. So did Bush, Sr., and it cost him re-election. Both Bush, Sr., and Clinton were fiscally responsible deficit hawks. If you can't give him that, you're not being fair.

TurdBomber said:

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

RoadTrip said:

TurdBomber said:

I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

Pathetic.

How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.

Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.

Bill Clinton was who he thought he had to be at the time he was running for President. Welfare Reform was forced on him by the GOP. You only need to look to how Biden is governing now and where is he was publicly back in the early 90s to realize that neither Biden nor Clinton have any core convictions.

Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.

I'm not denying facts, I'm just challenging your assertion that he was a profile in courage. He wanted to win re-election. The GOP just took the House for first time in nearly 50 years. He went along in order to survive politically. He signed the Welfare reform bill for the same reason Biden and Hillary voted in favor of the Iraq war. They thought it was the right political move.

TurdBomber said:

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

RoadTrip said:

TurdBomber said:

I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

Pathetic.

How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.

Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.

Bill Clinton was who he thought he had to be at the time he was running for President. Welfare Reform was forced on him by the GOP. You only need to look to how Biden is governing now and where is he was publicly back in the early 90s to realize that neither Biden nor Clinton have any core convictions.

Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.

I'm not denying facts, I'm just challenging your assertion that he was a profile in courage. He wanted to win re-election. The GOP just took the House for first time in nearly 50 years. He went along in order to survive politically. He signed the Welfare reform bill for the same reason Biden and Hillary voted in favor of the Iraq war. They thought it was the right political move.

It took a Dem Prez with unique charm to get it through, and Bill was that guy. No other Dem or Rep was getting it through back then.

It took no skill. Ted, the Swimmer, Kennedy voted for the Reagan tax cuts because he was scared of the 1980 Republican landslide. He whined about those cuts for the rest of his political career. Republicans controlled Congress in 1996 and they didn't need to be charmed. All Clinton had to do was sign the legislation and forgo a third veto. Since Clinton has campaigned on welfare reform and then nothing about it he was in a political bind and did what the people wanted out of political expediency. There was nothing charming about Clinton unless you like snake oil salesmen.

Sledog said:

TurdBomber said:

TurdBomber said:

And I so disdained Romney in 2012, that I either didn't vote or voted for Obama a second time. I honesty can't remember. I think I went with Barry.

...Who then fagged out, danced on Ellen, gave his keys to the WH to Michelle, and turned Foreign Policy over to Hillary and Susan Rice.

Sledog said:

TurdBomber said:

trublue said:

TurdBomber said:

I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

Pathetic.

What was your basis for “hoping Obama would restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years”?

“Hope and Change.”

Just curious.

I suppose it was hope and change. He delivered on neither, of course.

He was a self admitted communist. In my biz we call that a clue.

Thank the R's for running a series of douchebag losers with no new ideas.

I wasn't voting for anyone dumb enough to choose Palin as VP, and Romney is a human bag of dicks.

Fuck both of those guys.

Yah but I'd take Palin over SloJoe any day. Could never vote for a commie. I may have without knowing but never knowingly.

Imagine voting for a real American versus commies playing for the away team.

You Clinton-haters tried the Commie thing twice, and got your asses handed to you, both times.

Might want to stop embracing the losers' strategy and smell the coffee instead.

Populists win elections. See Donald Trump.