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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,263 Founders Club

    Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

    You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

    And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

    You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.
    Quite honestly I don't disagree. I voted twice for Bill and as always am not ashamed to say so. I voted for him more than against the other guy for one of the few times. All in all the 90's were a nice addition to the 80's



  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter

    Actually you can thank Reagan and then Newt although Clinton reluctantly signed the budget bills. Who knew that lowering the tax rate and reducing regulations and slowing government spending was good for the private sector economy.
    That's an old anti-Clinton trope, I'm well acquainted with, but those Adam & Eve arguments are pretty myopic and lame. Give credit where it's due. Clinton raised marginal rates a bit to reduce the debt. So did Bush, Sr., and it cost him re-election. Both Bush, Sr., and Clinton were fiscally responsible deficit hawks. If you can't give him that, you're not being fair.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    I agree with you for the most part. Clinton also was the beneficiary of the dot.com boom that burst after he left office.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited July 2021

    Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

    You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

    And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

    You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.
    I'm not denying facts, I'm just challenging your assertion that he was a profile in courage. He wanted to win re-election. The GOP just took the House for first time in nearly 50 years. He went along in order to survive politically. He signed the Welfare reform bill for the same reason Biden and Hillary voted in favor of the Iraq war. They thought it was the right political move.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    I'm not denying facts, I'm just challenging your assertion that he was a profile in courage. He wanted to win re-election. The GOP just took the House for first time in nearly 50 years. He went along in order to survive politically. He signed the Welfare reform bill for the same reason Biden and Hillary voted in favor of the Iraq war. They thought it was the right political move.
    It took a Dem Prez with unique charm to get it through, and Bill was that guy. No other Dem or Rep was getting it through back then.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,412 Standard Supporter

    It took a Dem Prez with unique charm to get it through, and Bill was that guy. No other Dem or Rep was getting it through back then.
    It took no skill. Ted, the Swimmer, Kennedy voted for the Reagan tax cuts because he was scared of the 1980 Republican landslide. He whined about those cuts for the rest of his political career. Republicans controlled Congress in 1996 and they didn't need to be charmed. All Clinton had to do was sign the legislation and forgo a third veto. Since Clinton has campaigned on welfare reform and then nothing about it he was in a political bind and did what the people wanted out of political expediency. There was nothing charming about Clinton unless you like snake oil salesmen.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 37,290 Standard Supporter

    Thank the R's for running a series of douchebag losers with no new ideas.

    I wasn't voting for anyone dumb enough to choose Palin as VP, and Romney is a human bag of dicks.

    Fuck both of those guys.
    Yah but I'd take Palin over SloJoe any day. Could never vote for a commie. I may have without knowing but never knowingly.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,412 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Yah but I'd take Palin over SloJoe any day. Could never vote for a commie. I may have without knowing but never knowingly.
    Imagine voting for a real American versus commies playing for the away team.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    "Nothing charming about Clinton." Nothing. Okay.

    Might want to tell that to every major news organization, all the women he fucked, Joe Klein, Chris Matthews, and the American voting public.

    No prying open the mind of a Clinton-hater, no matter how clueless, obtuse or wrong they are. Carry on, WLD.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    You Clinton-haters tried the Commie thing twice, and got your asses handed to you, both times.

    Might want to stop embracing the losers' strategy and smell the coffee instead.

    Populists win elections. See Donald Trump.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    I'm not denying facts, I'm just challenging your assertion that he was a profile in courage. He wanted to win re-election. The GOP just took the House for first time in nearly 50 years. He went along in order to survive politically. He signed the Welfare reform bill for the same reason Biden and Hillary voted in favor of the Iraq war. They thought it was the right political move.
    What's really funny is that now the Dems are the party for unending war.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,915
    edited July 2021

    "Nothing charming about Clinton." Nothing. Okay.

    Might want to tell that to every major news organization, all the women he fucked, Joe Klein, Chris Matthews, and the American voting public.

    No prying open the mind of a Clinton-hater, no matter how clueless, obtuse or wrong they are. Carry on, WLD.

    Respect for Slick Willie as a cocksman

    Banging prime Gina Gershon. Props.

  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter

    Respect for Slick Willie as a cocksman

    Banging prime Gina Gershon. Props.

    Guess Gina chose the snake, not the oil.

    Boom!
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

    You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

    And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

    You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.
    Clinton was a Satan worshipping paedophile employed by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers who engaged in human sacrifice rituals.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter

    Clinton was a Satan worshipping paedophile employed by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers who engaged in human sacrifice rituals.
    And @WestLinnDuck doesn't think Clinton was charming.

    Ooooooooooh Sick Burn!
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 20,027 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    What's really funny is that now the Dems are the party for unending war.
    Hillary always wanted to be a man like George Patton. And she's given it her best.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Barry ran on and supported a public option before he got elected and abandoned it. I still support a public option to counter-balance the corrupt fucking blood-sucking private health insurance industry I'm forced to buy from under Obamacare.

    And you're forgetting that Barry kept and expanded many oil leases up and down the coasts of the U.S. that his lunatic green supporters wanted him to cancel. He did what his Wall Street handlers told him to do, and in large part there was little light between he and Mom-Jeans Romney on economic policy. Most importantly, and most conservatively, he didn't jail anyone from Wall Street after the crash, just like the R's wanted.
    Also was against gay marriage
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Quite honestly I don't disagree. I voted twice for Bill and as always am not ashamed to say so. I voted for him more than against the other guy for one of the few times. All in all the 90's were a nice addition to the 80's



    I voted for Perot
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 37,290 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2021

    Get on the boat BidenBros!
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,915
    Sledog said:


    Get on the boat BidenBros!

    Why not just run a Dunkirk type evac? Certainly there’s shitloads of Florida Cubans with boats.
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