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Djouvensky Schlenbaker, 2022 3* RB, Bellingham (Squalicum), WA (Offered)

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  • Beno4LifeBeno4Life Member Posts: 533
    NEsnake12 said:



    Blame KB for missing on all the big time RB recruits, but I don’t think he plays objectively worse players just because they’ve been around longer.

    You had me until this. Kamari Pleasant should never touch the ball.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    NEsnake12 said:

    I think people are chasing the dragon a bit because of Myles Gaskin. We were spoiled having him for 4 years, and people like Fudgie really want one of the 47 RBs on the roster to break away from the pack and be the next Gaskin. So Fudgie is putting down McGrew, who’s a genuinely good but not elite player, because we already know he isn’t ever going to be Gaskin. Then he can Doog it up about the unproven RBs because there’s a small chance that they could be a diamond in the rough.

    I agree that’s it’s frustrating to give a ton of carries to McGrew/Pleasant/Newton when the younger guys like Cam Davis have shown occasional flashes. But those established guys are still solid players, and the likelihood is that the young guys aren’t going any better than them. If they were, then they’d be getting a ton of carries over established guys like Gaskin did early on.

    Blame KB for missing on all the big time RB recruits, but I don’t think he plays objectively worse players just because they’ve been around longer.

    Legend, for making a coug defecate
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,793
    Beno4Life said:

    You had me until this. Kamari Pleasant should never touch the ball.
    He’s a very average runner but is the best pass blocking RB on the team, rather easily.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Came for the Djuovensky Schlenbaker recruiting chat snd stayed for the Sean McGrew hawt talk.

    Wish ballz was here to bring up the big back nonsense again
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,924

    It’s a dumb argument because we don’t play that many opponents that would be considered good by the board. Players tend to do worse against good opponents too.

    McGrew has been our best RB at times the last two years. That said, he’s nothing special. We need to be better at RB.
    I agree with this.
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,851 Swaye's Wigwam
    So much aidz I feel like ballz is back. Nothing like 50+ new messages with no relevance to the original topic. Ballz would be proud guysm.
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,823
    Baseman said:

    Washington's biggest bowl wins were all with solid but not great RBs. 1984 Orange Bowl (J. Robinson) 1992 Rose Bowl (Barry and Bryant) 2001 Rose Bowl (Rich Alexis and Willie Hurst) Total NFL carries for this group: 0.

    You’re cherry picking.

    ‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY

    ‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN

    ‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold

    These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
  • Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,773

    They have the same guy, but he’s also bigger, faster, stronger, and has better hands.

    The backup is probably better than McGrew too.
    Yeah, Borghi is similiar and bigger and likely better. McGrew is a very skilled back though, he would do even better at WSU than at UW.
  • Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,773
    Baseman said:

    There's being caught from behind and there is being caught from the angle. I haven't seen McGrew caught from behind once where he had a clear lane and the secondary player didn't have an angle. Ahmed was a home threat but what did he break? 2 long runs in his career? (SC is one) When you run between the tackles you have to get through traffic which slows you down. McGrew isn't going to dance and wait for the homerun, he's going to get his yards getting through the hole and finding the second level. He's not doing it on toss sweeps it's between the tackles.

    Very rare for a running back to rip off a homerun unless it's a well blocked wide sweep or the defenders completely whiff inside (rare)

    He ranks well among Pac 12 rushers. His longest run is only 27 yards which makes his average that more impressive. He doesn't have an 80 yard run inflate his average. Scheme has a lot to do with explosiveness. TBS Darling Austin Jones has one of the lower AYPC. 5 star Stephen Carr is near the bottom.

    McGrew lead the conference in TD per rush @ 10%. That's a homerun threat, even if in the red-zone


    I'm with you as far as McGrew having the best insticts between the tackles and being overall pretty productive. But he does fizzle out after 20 yards. I think his longest TD run, like 45 or 50 yards, was against BYU. Haven't seen that against quality P5 competition.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,262 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2021
    I don
    TTJ said:

    You’re cherry picking.

    ‘85: Jacques Robinson, RICK FENNEY

    ‘92: Beno Bryant, Jay Barry, NAPOLEON KAUFMAN

    ‘01: Willie Hurst, Braxton Cleman, Rich Alexis, Paul Arnold

    These are three of the best RB rooms UW has ever seen. Fenney and Kaufman both had long NFL careers.
    Kaufman was not much of a contributor on the 91 team at fb as I remember the majority of his carries came once we throttled teams. Once Bryant got hurt he took over as the dude the next year.

    I remember watching many blowouts excited for him to get carries on the prime sports Sunday night replay. Can’t speak to the 84 team.
  • rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942

    I'm with you as far as McGrew having the best insticts between the tackles and being overall pretty productive. But he does fizzle out after 20 yards. I think his longest TD run, like 45 or 50 yards, was against BYU. Haven't seen that against quality P5 competition.
    Uh...excuse me?

    BYU will play anyone u consider "quality P5 competition" and they'll do it anytime, anywhere! They LET Coastal Carolina win so that all the big boys won't be scared next year.
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,823

    96 is the best room. Dillon and Sheehee.
    Clearly.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Tequilla said:

    This obsession with breakaway speed and taking it to the house is overrated … you can count on one hand the number of times this is even in playing during the year

    When it’s there you obviously want it to go the distance

    That said, I want the RB that turns no gain into 3, 2 into 6, has the balance and body lean to always fall forward. Those incremental yards are really the difference between a good and average/bad RB

    I agree that getting positive yards when it’s not blocked perfectly is more important, but big runs for TD’s are huge. We absolutely are missing that and McGrew is not a home run threat. I’ve seen him caught from behind on kickoff returns as well.
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,691 Swaye's Wigwam

    I agree that getting positive yards when it’s not blocked perfectly is more important, but big runs for TD’s are huge. We absolutely are missing that and McGrew is not a home run threat. I’ve seen him caught from behind on kickoff returns as well.
    McGrew would have to actually get past his wedge to get caught from behind on kickoffs. He's perhaps the worst kickoff returner I've ever seen, but he's great at reading his blocks and getting yards as a running back. Two very different skills.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,544 Swaye's Wigwam

    I agree that getting positive yards when it’s not blocked perfectly is more important, but big runs for TD’s are huge. We absolutely are missing that and McGrew is not a home run threat. I’ve seen him caught from behind on kickoff returns as well.
    Those plays can win games you're otherwise losing and they bury teams that were otherwise hanging around. Having someone getting touches out of the backfield who is a legit threat to house it is an important consideration. It's not a deal breaker for any one running back. It's just a weapon I think you should always have.
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