Mark Nabou, 2022 3* OL, Seattle (O'Dea), WA (mutually parted ways)

dirtysouwfdawg said:

Tequilla said:

PapaBrailsford said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

UDubHusky23 said:

Neighbor2972 said:

https://twitter.com/mark_nabou/status/1399849197122113536

NICE! We still going to have room for the rest? Connerly, Agbo, Ioane and Iuli if they wanna come?

I have no idea if this kid is good or not but from my 10,000 feet view with no actually recruit video review or insider sources - this plus the Arizona OL commitment tells me they don’t think they are getting more than 1 or 2 of the above guys that you mentioned. Based on looking at the offer lists of all of the kids seems like Huff might not be having his best year.

Offer lists aren’t the end all be all, and if Connerly and Agbo are the two who commit I won’t be complaining. Also happy to have someone who spends time watching OL Hudl’s tell me I’m wrong and tell me why this kid or the AZ kid are better than some of the aforementioned players but that’s kind of where I’m at.

Offer lists are not a reliable method of determining much of anything and I'll tell you why.

1. Summer camps provide an avenue for kids to get a lot of scholarship offers. The 2022 class did not have an opportunity to attend summer camps last year and camping season for this year just started yesterday. In fact, Hero Kanu just received an offer from Georgia after attending their camp. I also saw Alabama just offered a TE after an unofficial visit. But, kids that have already committed, my son for example, cancelled all of his summer camp visits because he has the offer he wants, he committed, and he is no longer on the market. Hence, I don't expect him to receive any more offers nor does he care if he receives any more offers.

2. Offer lists provide a false sense of player value. Again, I'll use my son for example. He, along with two teammates, received offers at about the same time from Colorado. My son didn't hear from Colorado for almost two months and he assumed the relationship/offer was dead. Then Colorado started asking all types of questions and asking for additional information like photos showing/proving how tall he was, his wingspan, his weight, hand width, transcripts, etc. etc. Basically, the type of info you would think a school would seek before making an offer. Once he sent them the additional information, he started receiving weekly calls and zoom meetings with the staff and HC. The other two teammates never heard from Colorado again. In sum, you have three kids with the same "offer" on paper, but in reality, only one of them was being recruited by Colorado and had a committable offer. Unfortunately, a lot schools recruit like Colorado (ASU/Tennessee come to mind). By that I mean, they throw out hundreds of offers (ASU and Colorado are near or above 400 offers for the 2022 class) with absolutely no intent for those offers to mean anything. Other schools like UW, UCLA, Oregon, and Cal do a lot a research before they make an offer; hence, it's a meaningful offer. In fact, UW had been contacting my son and his HS coaches 3 months or so before they actually offered him. They used that time to evaluate his film (to include practice film), talk to teachers, counselors, and yes...even classmates. UW was extremely thorough in their evaluation process.

3. Offer lists do not provide the full story. There are several schools that were either talking to/recruiting my son, or were having several conversations with my son's HS coaches that had not yet developed to the point where an offer was made. For example, UCLA, Oregon, Cal, Utah, Oklahoma St., and tOSU were either talking to my son or talking to his HS coaches about him. His HS coaches told me that they were confident that at least two of the schools were planning to offer. See also Paragraph 1.

4. Offer lists do not prove talent/ability. You seem to acknowledge this above when you stated, "Offer lists aren't the end all be all." To your point, Kedon Slovis' offer sheet isn't the most impressive list that I've seen, but he's proven to be a damn good QB. Similarly, Nick Harris' offer sheet was pretty short and I think he turned out all right. And there are a lot more.

5. You didn't mention star ratings, but while I'm on my soapbox, I'll add that star ratings are an even worse measure of player potential. If Blair Angulo was so goddamned good at evaluating potential talent, I promise you that he'd be making a high 6 or 7 figure salary at the university of his choosing. Google "Blake Carringer" or "Unique Brissett II"...it's comical.

Bingo ... well said

In the end the ultimate judge of how well programs recruit comes on the field

All the recruiting rankings do is blow smoke up people’s asses

If we’re bashing blowing smoke up peoples asses then I’m out of here.

1to392831weretaken said:

PapaBrailsford said:

...Other schools like UW, UCLA, Oregon, and Cal do a lot a research before they make an offer; hence, it's a meaningful offer.

This Oregon?

dirtysouwfdawg said:

lawsandl said:

1to392831weretaken said:

PapaBrailsford said:

...Other schools like UW, UCLA, Oregon, and Cal do a lot a research before they make an offer; hence, it's a meaningful offer.

This Oregon?

Chip Kelly hardly offered anyone like it was some kind of honor. Mario is more aggressive. You can be selective and still recruit in the 30’s. The raw talent at Oregon is better as a result of Mario’s strategy.

Echoing what Nabou’s dad is saying, OL talent evaluation is one of the harder spots for recruiting services to get right. I look at who evaluates the spot well and is actively pursuing kids. I like what Smith is doing at Oregon State. Colorado develops there too.

I love NW kids staying put. Good luck to the kid (even as a Duck fan).

Wrong dad, dipshit.