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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,965 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2021

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,095 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    Totalitarianism The Slobberer demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


    Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,900 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


    TKS is RIF deficient.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    You realize a thing called World War II happened, right? And it was started by National Socialists aka NAZIs, right? So Orwell felt it proper to distinguish his beliefs and feelings from the bad guys who started and lost WW2 by calling his brand "Democratic Socialists."
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,324 Founders Club
    The US of A is a republic of democratic socialists. The mix of earners and producers can pay the losers and layabouts. So far

    When you fuck up the mix the country collapses. Glad I'm old
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,219

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    And that's the polite way to put it.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."

    "Do remember that dishonesty and cowardice always have to be paid for. Do not imagine that for years on end you can make yourself the boot-licking propagandist of the sovietic regime, or any other regime, and then suddenly return to honesty and reason. Once a whore, always a whore." Mic Drop.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,327 Standard Supporter
    The liberals and moderates who wanted common sense things like higher minimum wage and better unions have been overtaken by radical assholes, anarchists, and race baiters who are trying to radically alter the cuntry