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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    You spend a lot of time arguing with people about whether or not you’ve read a book? This is a pretty pathetic non point.

    The socialist, that you guys claim wrote a book about the evil future under socialism, is being used as prop, that much is true. Mostly seems like you guys just don’t like that I’m pointing it out though.

    It’s no longer theory, now that $6 trillion have been doled for “relief”. We are now able to see it full motion.

    So far the dailys haven’t been good. And the release date is still a year out.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club

    You spend a lot of time arguing with people about whether or not you’ve read a book? This is a pretty pathetic non point.

    The socialist, that you guys claim wrote a book about the evil future under socialism, is being used as prop, that much is true. Mostly seems like you guys just don’t like that I’m pointing it out though.

    You use him, I don't.

    His books are so simplistic.

    I've known his shit since I was 20. He thinks you and your ilk are fascist.

    Also have had the most leftist education possible at UW. Graduated from it with honors.

    You're a dumb fuck trying to play checkers here. Just like the teachers.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    haie said:

    You spend a lot of time arguing with people about whether or not you’ve read a book? This is a pretty pathetic non point.

    The socialist, that you guys claim wrote a book about the evil future under socialism, is being used as prop, that much is true. Mostly seems like you guys just don’t like that I’m pointing it out though.

    You use him, I don't.

    His books are so simplistic.

    I've known his shit since I was 20. He thinks you and your ilk are fascist.

    Also have had the most leftist education possible at UW. Graduated from it with honors.

    You're a dumb fuck trying to play checkers here. Just like the teachers.
    I simply point out his political beliefs when right wingers bring up his work. I’m sorry that makes you so uncomfortable that you feel the need to lash out.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    These street chalk nuggets never stop.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,009

    haie said:

    You spend a lot of time arguing with people about whether or not you’ve read a book? This is a pretty pathetic non point.

    The socialist, that you guys claim wrote a book about the evil future under socialism, is being used as prop, that much is true. Mostly seems like you guys just don’t like that I’m pointing it out though.

    You use him, I don't.

    His books are so simplistic.

    I've known his shit since I was 20. He thinks you and your ilk are fascist.

    Also have had the most leftist education possible at UW. Graduated from it with honors.

    You're a dumb fuck trying to play checkers here. Just like the teachers.
    I simply point out his political beliefs when right wingers bring up his work. I’m sorry that makes you so uncomfortable that you feel the need to lash out.
    When are you going to be done with your book report on "1984"?

    Don't cheat and steal somebody else's essay from the internet. Plagiarism is the sole realm of Cho Bai Den.

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,999

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    "Brand of socialism"? There is no "brand". There is just socialism and socialism has failed since its inception. millions of lives lost but here you are trying to do it all again. Only idiots are doomed to repeat history's failures.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    "Brand of socialism"? There is no "brand". There is just socialism and socialism has failed since its inception. millions of lives lost but here you are trying to do it all again. Only idiots are doomed to repeat history's failures.
    Again with this shit. @TurdBomber referred to my brand of socialism, take it up with him.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2021

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,009
    edited May 2021

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    Totalitarianism The Slobberer demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


    Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,641 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


    TKS is RIF deficient.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    You realize a thing called World War II happened, right? And it was started by National Socialists aka NAZIs, right? So Orwell felt it proper to distinguish his beliefs and feelings from the bad guys who started and lost WW2 by calling his brand "Democratic Socialists."
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    The US of A is a republic of democratic socialists. The mix of earners and producers can pay the losers and layabouts. So far

    When you fuck up the mix the country collapses. Glad I'm old
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    And that's the polite way to put it.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."

    "Do remember that dishonesty and cowardice always have to be paid for. Do not imagine that for years on end you can make yourself the boot-licking propagandist of the sovietic regime, or any other regime, and then suddenly return to honesty and reason. Once a whore, always a whore." Mic Drop.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,579 Standard Supporter
    The liberals and moderates who wanted common sense things like higher minimum wage and better unions have been overtaken by radical assholes, anarchists, and race baiters who are trying to radically alter the cuntry
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,999
    edited May 2021

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    "Brand of socialism"? There is no "brand". There is just socialism and socialism has failed since its inception. millions of lives lost but here you are trying to do it all again. Only idiots are doomed to repeat history's failures.
    Again with this shit. @TurdBomber referred to my brand of socialism, take it up with him.
    You missed the point Einstein. It doesn't matter how you twist socialism in your fucked up brain, in the end the slaughters begin. The cancel culture you rats all revel in is just a precursor. You like to take away freedoms and force people to say, act and think how you want them to. What is going on now with socialists is historically typical. Taking over the minds of our youths, telling them everyone but your types are racist. There is nothing new, nothing different. The ends justify the means at all costs. Your side has ruined lives over your politics. Actually killed people and destroyed their livelihoods. Again, typical and historical socialism. Tweak it all you want in your pea brain, its all been tried before and it always comes down to the same violent and elite making ending.

    FFS, every socialists thinks they can somehow do it differently. Idiots like Kobe actually think they can force people to give up their individuality and their freedoms and somehow they are all going to be happy.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2021

    The liberals and moderates who wanted common sense things like higher minimum wage and better unions have been overtaken by radical assholes, anarchists, and race baiters who are trying to radically alter the cuntry

    Precisely what Orwell predicted and witnessed, which pulled him back toward the center-right in his later years. He remained devoted to the idea of socialism in theory, but couldn't ignore what he repeatedly saw in practice, hence the flipping the script quote above which flew right past @TheKobeStopper.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,537 Standard Supporter

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    "Brand of socialism"? There is no "brand". There is just socialism and socialism has failed since its inception. millions of lives lost but here you are trying to do it all again. Only idiots are doomed to repeat history's failures.
    Again with this shit. @TurdBomber referred to my brand of socialism, take it up with him.
    You missed the point Einstein. It doesn't matter how you twist socialism in your fucked up brain, in the end the slaughters begin. The cancel culture you rats all revel in is just a precursor. You like to take away freedoms and force people to say, act and think how you want them to. What is going on now with socialists is historically typical. Taking over the minds of our youths, telling them everyone but your types are racist. There is nothing new, nothing different. The ends justify the means at all costs. Your side has ruined lives over your politics. Actually killed people and destroyed their livelihoods. Again, typical and historical socialism. Tweak it all you want in your pea brain, its all been tried before and it always comes down to the same violent and elite making ending.

    FFS, every socialists thinks they can somehow do it differently. Idiots like Kobe actually think they can force people to give up their individuality and their freedoms and somehow they are all going to be happy.
    Think Venezuela versus Chile. North Korea versus South Korea. Cuba before and after.


  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    There is this fallacious belief: “It would not be the same here; here such things are impossible.” Alas, all the evil of the twentieth century is possible everywhere on earth.

    ALEKSANDR SOLZHENITSYN

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,009

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    "Brand of socialism"? There is no "brand". There is just socialism and socialism has failed since its inception. millions of lives lost but here you are trying to do it all again. Only idiots are doomed to repeat history's failures.
    Again with this shit. @TurdBomber referred to my brand of socialism, take it up with him.
    You missed the point Einstein. It doesn't matter how you twist socialism in your fucked up brain, in the end the slaughters begin. The cancel culture you rats all revel in is just a precursor. You like to take away freedoms and force people to say, act and think how you want them to. What is going on now with socialists is historically typical. Taking over the minds of our youths, telling them everyone but your types are racist. There is nothing new, nothing different. The ends justify the means at all costs. Your side has ruined lives over your politics. Actually killed people and destroyed their livelihoods. Again, typical and historical socialism. Tweak it all you want in your pea brain, its all been tried before and it always comes down to the same violent and elite making ending.

    FFS, every socialists thinks they can somehow do it differently. Idiots like Kobe actually think they can force people to give up their individuality and their freedoms and somehow they are all going to be happy.
    Think Venezuela versus Chile. North Korea versus South Korea. Cuba before and after.




    And the fucking idiot leftists voted out the mean and orange man when they really could have had a tropical paradise at their fingers....


  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


    This guy?

  • trublue
    trublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Read Andy Ngo’s book, “Unmasked”.

    Educate yourself, you ignorant MF.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


    This guy?

    She's in therapy because the Zodiac Killer tried to kill her
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,009

    And all the while everyone who uses his brain knows that Socialism, as a world-system and wholeheartedly applied, is a way out.

    The average thinking person nowadays is not merely not a Socialist, he is actively hostile to Socialism. This must be due chiefly to mistaken methods of propaganda.

    And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli.

    Shoulda read the whole chapter first, bitch.

    It should come as no surprise that his critique of socialists and how it doesn’t appeal to certain types of people is brilliant and still relevant today. But sweet out of context quote, bro.

    Big fan of the Socialist side in the Spanish Civil War in the 30's. Then got to see Socialism at work in Europe and the Soviet Union after WW2 and like most rational human beings at the time that romanticized your beloved socialism since the Russian Revolution, moved away from it when the bodies stacked like cordwood could no longer hide the lies and deceptions inherent in that system.

    Dream on, Junior. Your brand of Socialism is loaded to the gills with Authoritarianism and Tyranny, including the silencing of viewpoints you can't handle and eliminating ideas you don't like. Orwell hated that shit with a passion and warned about exactly what you preach in 1984.
    He didn’t move away from it.

    And you don’t know anything about my brand of socialism.
    The hell he didn't. And he was never deep in the tank with it anyway, quickly latching onto the idea of "Democratic Socialism." He came to see that any and every system was easily converted to Tyrannical ways due to powerful men ascending to positions of authority they would then naturally abuse and become what they railed against.

    You either never read Animal Farm or think it's a book about Zoo Animals.

    Either way, you're a fucking ignorant ahistorical moron.
    “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it”

    That’s from 1946, a year after Animal Farm was written. Oops.
    If anyone besides @YellowSnow gives a fuck and actually reads instead of just googling for vapid cognitive dissonance replies (Hi, @TheKobeStopper), Thomas Ricks book “Churchill and Orwell -The Fight for Freedom” makes it pretty clear where Orwell eventually fell on the spectrum.

    Now TKS has two book reports due.


    “Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth."


    This guy?

    Sure.gif. Respect the troll game.

    Now get back to your book reports.

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    The US of A is a republic of democratic socialists. The mix of earners and producers can pay the losers and layabouts. So far

    When you fuck up the mix the country collapses. Glad I'm old

    I accept your surrender.

    Lol. I knew it was bad but I didn’t know it was, concede that we’re all actually democratic socialists bad.