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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,743 Founders Club
    doogie said:

    Why didn’t the coach walk off the court? Leave the venue?

    Parents of the team showed amazing restraint. Good for them.

    Disagree on the good for them part. I am a live and live sort of guy. But, my kid gets punched like that I would fucking be looking for scalps in a very real way. The problem with kids like the one who threw the punch is they have never had an old man strength beatdown come their way. He needs one. I'm happy to administer it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    Sledog said:

    Never go to Oakland.

    Never go to parts of Oakland.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,815 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Never go to Oakland.

    Never go to parts of Oakland.
    The parts I went to were bad enough to exclude the whole fucking place!
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    doogie said:

    Why didn’t the coach walk off the court? Leave the venue?

    Parents of the team showed amazing restraint. Good for them.

    Disagree on the good for them part. I am a live and live sort of guy. But, my kid gets punched like that I would fucking be looking for scalps in a very real way. The problem with kids like the one who threw the punch is they have never had an old man strength beatdown come their way. He needs one. I'm happy to administer it.
    IMO, it's job of coaches, which I've had to do a tim or two. Shit escalates when parents come in from sidelines, which I've also seen.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215

    Swaye said:

    doogie said:

    Why didn’t the coach walk off the court? Leave the venue?

    Parents of the team showed amazing restraint. Good for them.

    Disagree on the good for them part. I am a live and live sort of guy. But, my kid gets punched like that I would fucking be looking for scalps in a very real way. The problem with kids like the one who threw the punch is they have never had an old man strength beatdown come their way. He needs one. I'm happy to administer it.
    IMO, it's job of coaches, which I've had to do a tim or two. Shit escalates when parents come in from sidelines, which I've also seen.
    Agreed, too many parents, even when their kids are completely in the wrong, would freak out if some other adult who wasn't even a coach got into it with their kid. I witnessed it a few times at the very same youth football games I was talking about earlier.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,531

    The majority of the Asian hate and physical abuse instances are coming from the African American side of things. Is it cultural? Just a fad like the knock out game HH said never existed but clearly did exist? Is it just something whitey can't understand?

    In all seriousness, racism has got to stop when it comes to minority against minority. It makes zero sense, morally or historically. This has always seemed tragic to me. Its like a horrible double negative.

    On a side note, I coached basketball K-12 for years. If my son had been punched like that, it would have WWIII. The fact the kid who delivered the punch was allowed to stay in the game would have been too much for me to take.

    https://fanbuzz.com/high-school/oakland-aau-basketball-punch/

    Evan’s mom, Lennie, told the San Francisco Gate that Evan and his teammates were also called anti-Asian and racial slurs like “c***k” before the nasty exchange.

    That was one of the other Marxists.

    We all look alike.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Dang, I didn't read past the video that the puncher wasn't tossed. That's nuts. Especially in basketball, no one is ever that far from refs.

    My kids have played lacrosse now for 8-9 years. Weird stuff happens in the back end of the field, because of the way the game is structured and large field. When ball is on one end, refs are not looking at the back end of field, and you've got 3 pairs of opposing players back there. More often than not, that's where the fights happen. Lot of punches can get thrown before refs 50-60yds away realize it and can intervene.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,236 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    The majority of the Asian hate and physical abuse instances are coming from the African American side of things. Is it cultural? Just a fad like the knock out game HH said never existed but clearly did exist? Is it just something whitey can't understand?

    In all seriousness, racism has got to stop when it comes to minority against minority. It makes zero sense, morally or historically. This has always seemed tragic to me. Its like a horrible double negative.

    On a side note, I coached basketball K-12 for years. If my son had been punched like that, it would have WWIII. The fact the kid who delivered the punch was allowed to stay in the game would have been too much for me to take.

    https://fanbuzz.com/high-school/oakland-aau-basketball-punch/

    Evan’s mom, Lennie, told the San Francisco Gate that Evan and his teammates were also called anti-Asian and racial slurs like “c***k” before the nasty exchange.

    That was one of the other Marxists.

    We all look alike.
    Oh shit, you guys do look alike!





  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,236 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2021

    Dang, I didn't read past the video that the puncher wasn't tossed. That's nuts. Especially in basketball, no one is ever that far from refs.

    My kids have played lacrosse now for 8-9 years. Weird stuff happens in the back end of the field, because of the way the game is structured and large field. When ball is on one end, refs are not looking at the back end of field, and you've got 3 pairs of opposing players back there. More often than not, that's where the fights happen. Lot of punches can get thrown before refs 50-60yds away realize it and can intervene.

    When coaching AAU teams and traveling around the South playing in tournaments, it is up to the coach to escort an out of control parent out of the building. I have done more of my fair share of that. Sometimes they go easily, a couple of times I physically pick them up and take them out the door and a couple of times the parents want to try to fight me. The first couple of years I just took the best players I could recruit. Unfortunately that meant I had about 7 out of 12 kids on the team who's parents were absolutely certain that their kid was going to go pro. That created problems. Not only were the parents loud and boisterous with the refs, they tried to intimidate me into playing their kids and tried to tell me how to coach. Starting the 3rd year I took good solid kids who could play a team game minus the ego's. I sat all the parents down and told them prior to the season that if they were out of line in any way and cost us a technical or I was forced to physically remove them, they were gone and would take their kid with them. Never had another problem. And yes, the kids that were for sure going pro were all African American kids. The kids for the most part were great, the parents were a nightmare.

    I was always amazed at the parents of kids who were sure their kid would go pro. The parents clearly had spent zero time with the kids to try to elevate their game. Most of them were deficient in one or two basic BB skills.
  • HustlinOwl
    HustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    Players/Coaches stay on the field/court. Fans stay in the stands. That's a rule that should always be strictly enforced.