CAITLYN JENNER If You're a Biological Boy ... YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN GIRLS' SPORTS

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.

Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.

Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.

They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally ill

And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Show me the reputable science behind it, not fake social justice science

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

This is a good article.

Some highlights-

Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain.

Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.

Environmental, social and behavioral factors also influence hormones in both males and females, complicating the idea that hormones determine sex.

While this is a small overview, the science is clear and conclusive: sex is not binary, transgender people are real.

Earlier in the thread I referred to the science being unclear, that was in regards to athletic performance. If that’s the science you’d like to see, I’d be happy to supply it but, as I said, it’s unclear. I guessed you meant the more broad transgender science.

TheKobeStopper said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Show me the reputable science behind it, not fake social justice science

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

This is a good article.

Some highlights-

Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain.

Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.

Environmental, social and behavioral factors also influence hormones in both males and females, complicating the idea that hormones determine sex.

While this is a small overview, the science is clear and conclusive: sex is not binary, transgender people are real.

Earlier in the thread I referred to the science being unclear, that was in regards to athletic performance. If that’s the science you’d like to see, I’d be happy to supply it but, as I said, it’s unclear. I guessed you meant the more broad transgender science.

an opinion blog

It's pretty simple.

You have a dick, or a pussy, or you're some hermaphrodite

Some mentally ill types want to add or subtract parts because of some unknown brain defect. It's probably a combination of environmental factors and what they were born with.

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Show me the reputable science behind it, not fake social justice science

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

This is a good article.

Some highlights-

Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain.

Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.

Environmental, social and behavioral factors also influence hormones in both males and females, complicating the idea that hormones determine sex.

While this is a small overview, the science is clear and conclusive: sex is not binary, transgender people are real.

Earlier in the thread I referred to the science being unclear, that was in regards to athletic performance. If that’s the science you’d like to see, I’d be happy to supply it but, as I said, it’s unclear. I guessed you meant the more broad transgender science.

an opinion blog

It's pretty simple.

You have a dick, or a pussy, or you're some hermaphrodite

Some mentally ill types want to add or subtract parts because of some unknown brain defect. It's probably a combination of environmental factors and what they were born with.

That “opinion blog” links to more than 20 scientific studies.

What if it just wasn’t that simple? What would be so bad about that?

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.

Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.

They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally ill

And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.

Man and woman or man and man or woman and woman

I was right

Marriage has nothing to do with junk science about your junk

It’s an apt comparison because marriage and gender are both social constructs. Social constructs evolve and change. If you think marriage hasn’t changed at all, I suggest you take that up with your right wing buddies who still don’t support it.

Science isn’t junk because it’s different than what you were taught in 2nd grade, 70 fucking years ago.

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.

Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.

They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally ill

And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.

Gender isn't a social construct but it's hardly shocking that a dumb fuck who feels evolution has nothing to do with genetics would feel that way.

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

My guess is you don't know what you're talking about.

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.

Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.

They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally ill

And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.

Those two things are completely unrelated.

I'm super for gay marriage. Dudes want to doom themselves be my guest.

I assure you, whether things are related or not, does not hang on your support for them.

The thing you don’t know is that your Trumper buddies on here that say “I don’t care what gay people do” aren’t actually okay with gay marriage. See, there used to be more to that sentence. It was “I don’t care what they do BUUUUUUUUUUUT marriage should be between a man and a woman”. All of them said that. From the smart ones like @RaceBannon to the morons like @pawz.

Eventually they stopped using the BUT. Because they lost and they realized not being okay with it made them look like bigots.

You’ll do the same with your position on trans people. You can’t stop progress.

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

TheKobeStopper said:

RaceBannon said:

thechatch said:

We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.

If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.

POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administration

Surrender or fight. That's the option as always

The left would prefer that folks just surrender

This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do

The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.

That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.

Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.

Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.

They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally ill

And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.

Man and woman or man and man or woman and woman

I was right

Marriage has nothing to do with junk science about your junk

It’s an apt comparison because marriage and gender are both social constructs. Social constructs evolve and change. If you think marriage hasn’t changed at all, I suggest you take that up with your right wing buddies who still don’t support it.

Science isn’t junk because it’s different than what you were taught in 2nd grade, 70 fucking years ago.

Marriage has changed as I clearly acknowledged. Has nothing to do with your junk science

Sounds like you and Joe care. Why?

I can’t answer for Joe. Who knows why liberals do the things that they do.

For me, it’s because I care about civil rights. Pretty sure you’ve heard of those.

Just not the civil rights of the biological females that the trannies want to compete against. Fuck their civil rights.