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CAITLYN JENNER If You're a Biological Boy ... YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN GIRLS' SPORTS

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 46,857 Standard Supporter
    Better eat your Wheaties.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 111,041 Founders Club

    The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

    My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
    I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

    If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

    Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 111,041 Founders Club
    And if it's a ruse why is Biden all in on it?
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,882
    These are the kinds of useless, zero meaning culture war issues that are made for idiots like Kobe.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

    My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
    Tell us all bout that science.
  • ramenduckramenduck Member Posts: 734
    edited May 2021
    Tanks his own prospects in the pentathlon IMO.

    Also, prop.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,181
    edited May 2021

    The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.

    My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.

    The polls are all over the place


    Not if you honestly ask the question they're not. Ask the question like this. Should biological boys be able to compete against biological girls in college and high school sports?

    The way the leftist polls phrase the question is: Should everyone have the right to compete in college and high school sports no matter their gender or sexual orientation?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,774 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2021


    The dazzler votes for this sh*t. Noem, Snow and the rest of the soft headed high character moms also voted for those that support this sh*t. Bring it up and make them a real decision. This is never going to poll well and plus it is the right thing todo.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    thechatch said:

    These are the kinds of useless, zero meaning culture war issues that are made for idiots like Kobe.

    Talk to the guy that started the thread.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know it

    If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all

    Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
    That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.

    You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,427
    I disagree with this heavily. The firmest voting bloc behind black people is younger liberal white women

    They can reap what they sow

    And realistically who cares
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.
    Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

    I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

    Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,427

    Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.

    I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.

    Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
    They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally ill
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally ill
    And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 7,599
    Wake me up when she becomes a college or professional golfer
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Show me the reputable science behind it, not fake social justice science
    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

    This is a good article.

    Some highlights-

    Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

    When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain.

    Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.

    Environmental, social and behavioral factors also influence hormones in both males and females, complicating the idea that hormones determine sex.

    While this is a small overview, the science is clear and conclusive: sex is not binary, transgender people are real.

    Earlier in the thread I referred to the science being unclear, that was in regards to athletic performance. If that’s the science you’d like to see, I’d be happy to supply it but, as I said, it’s unclear. I guessed you meant the more broad transgender science.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,987 Swaye's Wigwam

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

    This is a good article.

    Some highlights-

    Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

    When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain.

    Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.

    Environmental, social and behavioral factors also influence hormones in both males and females, complicating the idea that hormones determine sex.

    While this is a small overview, the science is clear and conclusive: sex is not binary, transgender people are real.

    Earlier in the thread I referred to the science being unclear, that was in regards to athletic performance. If that’s the science you’d like to see, I’d be happy to supply it but, as I said, it’s unclear. I guessed you meant the more broad transgender science.
    So that means a dna test would clear this up for an individual assuming they are confused?
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,153 Founders Club

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

    This is a good article.

    Some highlights-

    Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

    When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain.

    Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.

    Environmental, social and behavioral factors also influence hormones in both males and females, complicating the idea that hormones determine sex.

    While this is a small overview, the science is clear and conclusive: sex is not binary, transgender people are real.

    Earlier in the thread I referred to the science being unclear, that was in regards to athletic performance. If that’s the science you’d like to see, I’d be happy to supply it but, as I said, it’s unclear. I guessed you meant the more broad transgender science.
    an opinion blog

    It's pretty simple.

    You have a dick, or a pussy, or you're some hermaphrodite

    Some mentally ill types want to add or subtract parts because of some unknown brain defect. It's probably a combination of environmental factors and what they were born with.
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