Biden address
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A return to "leftist" GWB rates.SFGbob said:
Letting people keep more of the money they earn only qualifies as a "subsidy" to people who believe every dollar really belongs to the government.HHusky said:
So you're proposing that we all subsidize the people who earn as much or more than we do. Maybe we do that to some extent through charitable donations, but people earning the kind of money we're talking about should be paying at a higher marginal tax rate.SFGbob said:
There are plenty of people just like you who claim they want higher taxes. You don't need to play it by yourself. But nice try dumbfuck.HHusky said:
If I want to play a basketball game, I don't try to play it by myself.SFGbob said:
Interesting how you need a change in the tax law in order to do something that you claim you already want to do.HHusky said:
You should have listened to the rest of the speech.RaceBannon said:
I believe the jury is still waiting on how we build the economy from the bottom up. Raise taxes on the poor? Enlighten usHHusky said:
In your own words, Gasbag, explain how Joe's plan is not Keynsian, but is actually Marxist.WestlinnDuck said:HHusky said:
#KeynesRaceBannon said:
Any of you Bidentards want to tell us how you grow an economy from the bottom? If trickle down doesn't work explain how trickle up works please
Or just deflect, deny and ignore per usual#KeynesMarx. Fixed it for you.
Keynes was a capitalist. He even stated, in plain English that he was on the side of the capitalists: ... But he also understood that unfettered capitalism could actually undermine its own existence and lead to socialism.
Your taxes wouldn't rise. Mine would.
It's never been my goal to raise only my own taxes.
but people earning the kind of money we're talking about should be paying at a higher marginal tax rate.
They already are. But with leftist it's never enough. Because as we can see with Biden's spending, they can never spend enough.
You know what's going to happen after all this spending. All the "inequality" that Biden says he wants to address is still going to be there because the reasons for the inequality have nothing to do with a lack of money. We are going to piss away trillions and every problem the left bitches about now will still be there after we've done so.
Providing "free" daycare isn't going get rid of inequality. All it will do is piss away Billions on daycare/childcare centers that most successful people wouldn't put their dogs into. -
I wouldn't mind if it happenedHHusky said:
If I want to play a basketball game, I don't try to play it by myself.SFGbob said:
Interesting how you need a change in the tax law in order to do something that you claim you already want to do.HHusky said:
You should have listened to the rest of the speech.RaceBannon said:
I believe the jury is still waiting on how we build the economy from the bottom up. Raise taxes on the poor? Enlighten usHHusky said:
In your own words, Gasbag, explain how Joe's plan is not Keynsian, but is actually Marxist.WestlinnDuck said:HHusky said:
#KeynesRaceBannon said:
Any of you Bidentards want to tell us how you grow an economy from the bottom? If trickle down doesn't work explain how trickle up works please
Or just deflect, deny and ignore per usual#KeynesMarx. Fixed it for you.
Keynes was a capitalist. He even stated, in plain English that he was on the side of the capitalists: ... But he also understood that unfettered capitalism could actually undermine its own existence and lead to socialism.
Your taxes wouldn't rise. Mine would.
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You should talk to him about it.RaceBannon said: -
We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?
How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.
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I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.SFGbob said:We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?
How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.
And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers. -
And now it's a world of skyscrapers instead of a 1 bedroom, crack house falling down.RaceBannon said:It took the Great Reset under Reagan to undo the damage of 33-79 where the whole house of cards collapsed leading to Reagan.
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Weird because Biden and the Rats you vote are currently adding more to the "credit card" than at any other time in our post-war history and you don't seem to have any fucking problem with it. Btw, love the way how you just dodged your bullshit about government spending and tax policies are what created the post war prosperity.HHusky said:
I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.SFGbob said:We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?
How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.
And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
Tell us how giving "free" daycare is going to create greater prosperity Dazzler? -
How much would the democrats have to raise taxes to get off the credit card with no reduction in entitlements or other spending like free daycare and college that the democrats support?HHusky said:
I've been telling you for years that as soon as you present a plausible scenario of the electorate voting to cut their own entitlements, you'll be making a solid case for reducing, or at least not increasing taxes. But here in reality, the only question is when taxes will rise. Sooner would be better. The GOP's credit card approach to spending isn't sustainable.SFGbob said:We spent about 5% of our GDP in 1948 on the entire Marshall plan. We currently spend over 12% of our current GDP every year on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. That's doesn't even take into account the money we already spend on Welfare. So why don't we already have that widespread prosperity you claim only happens with government raising taxes and spending Dazzler?
How is providing people with government paid for daycare centers going to increase prosperity? The same neighborhoods that have government paid for shitty schools will have government paid for shitty daycare centers and the only thing we will have achieved is taking billions of dollars and lighting it on fucking fire.
And besides, there are additional things people want from their government besides paying social security to old fuckers.
That's what I though
I guess spending 40 years calling the GOP racist and wanting to kill granny when the subject of cutting spending comes up has come home to roost.
The democrats aren't calling on new taxes to pay off the credit card. They want to spend even more than they raise
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Reagan was as Keynesian as can be. The Boomers were in their 20s and 30s too. We had a lot going for us.RoadTrip said:
And now it's a world of skyscrapers instead of a 1 bedroom, crack house falling down.RaceBannon said:It took the Great Reset under Reagan to undo the damage of 33-79 where the whole house of cards collapsed leading to Reagan.
But the myth that followed--that cutting taxes is like magic and raising them is forbidden--has done a lot of damage.
