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So many points I disagree with Teq. First of all, shut the fuck up even mentioning Isaiah Cannon or Nick Johnson. Both of them are young. Both of them were 2nd round picks. I don't have the percentages, but most 2nd round picks don't do shit. Even the ones that do aren't often getting solid PT for championship caliber teams.
Chris Bosh and his 1.1 apg last year agree that he is a great passer for a big man. I can't wait to see them run some high/low action with Howard. Maybe they can call Romar for some pointers on the high post offense.
Houston has a good starting 5 if they get Bosh and Parsons. Chris Bosh and Dwight Howard compliment each other very well on paper. I fully agree with that and understand the reasons why. Terrance Jones should be a good 6th man. Beyond that, it's bare. I'm far from sold on Kevin McHale as a coach too.
Your last paragraph is shit. OKC doesn't have a "best" fit roster because Westbrook isn't a true PG? I agree that they need to make changes, but any team with Durant, Westbrook, and a top 3 defensive big has a "best" fitting roster. -
OKC doesn't have a great roster simply b/c they don't have any pieces worth a damn surrounding KD, Westbrook, and Ibaka. The roster is dog shit.
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I understood your point about the best fitting rosters. It's stupid analysis and it's some SooperSoonic bullshit though. You implied that Nick Johnson and Isaiah Canaan are useful pieces, but Reggie Jackson and Steven Adams are shit? Fuck, Jeremy Lamb is a better player with more potential than Johnson and Canaan.Tequilla said:OKC doesn't have a great roster simply b/c they don't have any pieces worth a damn surrounding KD, Westbrook, and Ibaka. The roster is dog shit.
The Thunder certainly had bums in their rotation. So did the Warriors though (Speights, J. O'Neal, Blake). So did the Clippers (Big Baby, Granger). They had no legitimate back up big. The Rockets have/ had a worse bench than OKC. Think it through. -
Fuck the Cavs. Who wants the city of Cleveland to win the title? It's hard to imagine a more boring city.
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I get your points.RoadDawg55 said:
I understood your point about the best fitting rosters. It's stupid analysis and it's some SooperSoonic bullshit though. You implied that Nick Johnson and Isaiah Canaan are useful pieces, but Reggie Jackson and Steven Adams are shit? Fuck, Jeremy Lamb is a better player with more potential than Johnson and Canaan.Tequilla said:OKC doesn't have a great roster simply b/c they don't have any pieces worth a damn surrounding KD, Westbrook, and Ibaka. The roster is dog shit.
The Thunder certainly had bums in their rotation. So did the Warriors though (Speights, J. O'Neal, Blake). So did the Clippers (Big Baby, Granger). They had no legitimate back up big. The Rockets have/ had a worse bench than OKC. Think it through.
Regarding Jackson/Adams, those guys are essentially starters for them and then if they are, their bench sucks ass. If they come off the bench, they have pieces of shit starting for them. They are probably 2 pieces short in my mind.
I get your point about Cannan and Johnson. Cannan hasn't done shit yet so no doubt I'm stepping out on a limb. He could be good ... might not be. I liked his game in college and I think he could be a valuable role player in the NBA. I may have a higher opinion of Nick Johnson than most ... I think he'll prove to be a very valuable NBA player. I'm not 100% privy of the Rockets depth/roster right now regarding contracts, but I was expecting guys like Cannan and Johnson to be 9th/10th players for them in the long run. In the end, the point is gone anyway with Bosh going back to Miami.
Speights is a POS if he's a valuable rotation player. If he's your 10th guy off the bench, you're not relying on him but if he gives you a good day you ride him. O'Neal wasn't that bad at times and Blake is so-so as a backup option. He's not going to hurt you.
The Clippers have already addressed their problems with the bench as Granger has been replaced by Wilcox (Romar still doesn't have talent) and Big Baby with Hawes. -
It would have been a bad move for Houston. Their problem is point guard and perimeter defense. Their guards can't defend and they don't have a PG who can win a title. I also think Harden is a guy who can't win a title. His defense is terrible and he's just a great 1 on 1 guy.
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Disagree. Bosh helps them with Harden's poor defense as they would be tough to score on with Bosh and Howard. Bosh also spreads the floor and gives them another shooter who can help them if Harden isn't making his shots.HeretoBeatmyChest said:It would have been a bad move for Houston. Their problem is point guard and perimeter defense. Their guards can't defend and they don't have a PG who can win a title. I also think Harden is a guy who can't win a title. His defense is terrible and he's just a great 1 on 1 guy.
They were dominated by Aldridge and I doubt he puts up back to back 40+ games against Bosh.
I think Miami is a little crazy paying Bosh 5/118 but they had to overpay to keep an all-star in these circumstances.
Agree with Road Dawg that right now today Cavs aren't the favorites but you could put them as favorites over OKC cause they have a clearer path to the finals which is half the battle.
I think if Gasol goes to either the Spurs or OKC they will be runaway favorites IMO.
P.S. Tequilla if you expect me to read your posts break it down. I see a big wall of text and I just skim to the next post. -
Agree about the easy path, but I can't see them beating a top team from the West. Getting Love would obviously be huge for them. That said, Love and Irving haven't even been to the playoffs. Neither plays defense either, but that may be an effort issue that will change.Boobs_Or_Harv said:
Disagree. Bosh helps them with Harden's poor defense as they would be tough to score on with Bosh and Howard. Bosh also spreads the floor and gives them another shooter who can help them if Harden isn't making his shots.HeretoBeatmyChest said:It would have been a bad move for Houston. Their problem is point guard and perimeter defense. Their guards can't defend and they don't have a PG who can win a title. I also think Harden is a guy who can't win a title. His defense is terrible and he's just a great 1 on 1 guy.
They were dominated by Aldridge and I doubt he puts up back to back 40+ games against Bosh.
I think Miami is a little crazy paying Bosh 5/118 but they had to overpay to keep an all-star in these circumstances.
Agree with Road Dawg that right now today Cavs aren't the favorites but you could put them as favorites over OKC cause they have a clearer path to the finals which is half the battle.
I think if Gasol goes to either the Spurs or OKC they will be runaway favorites IMO.
P.S. Tequilla if you expect me to read your posts break it down. I see a big wall of text and I just skim to the next post.
At least initially, I don't think they will be as good as the Big 3 Miami had in 10-11. Bosh averaged 24 and 10 in Toronto. Is Love really a top 10-15 player or is he a big numbers on a shitty team guy?
LeBron knows how tough it's going to be. It's still Cleveland and the organization has no Pat Riley running the front office. LeBron even said his goal is to bring one championship there. Favorites is a stretch at this point.
Chicago needs to make a move. If I'm Indiana, I think I give it another shot and hope that with experience and time together will be enough to beat the Cavs. Same with NJ and Toronto. The East is so shitty, a lot of those teams have a chance. -
Lebron sounded like Ty/Sark today when he said he knows they won't compete for a title this year, there will be some growing pains, his goal is to win ONE(what happened to not one, not two, not three, etc?) and basically stated he just needs more time.
For those who say he doesn't have that competitive drive of MJ or Kobe well that quote gave you a ton of evidence.
”When I left Cleveland, I was on a mission,” he continued. “I was seeking championships, and we won two. But Miami already knew that feeling. Our city hasn’t had that feeling in a long, long, long time. My goal is still to win as many titles as possible, no question. But what’s most important for me is bringing one trophy back to Northeast Ohio.”
I’m not promising a championship. I know how hard that is to deliver. We’re not ready right now. No way. Of course, I want to win next year, but I’m realistic. It will be a long process, much longer than it was in 2010. My patience will get tested. I know that. I’m going into a situation with a young team and a new coach. I will be the old head. But I get a thrill out of bringing a group together and helping them reach a place they didn’t know they could go. I see myself as a mentor now and I’m excited to lead some of these talented young guys. I think I can help Kyrie Irving become one of the best point guards in our league. I think I can help elevate Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters. And I can’t wait to reunite with Anderson Varejao, one of my favorite teammates.
Read more: Necole Bitchie.com: LeBron James Announces Return To The Cleveland Cavaliers: ‘I’m Coming Home’ http://necolebitchie.com/2014/07/lebron-james-announces-return-to-the-cleveland-cavaliers-im-coming-home/#ixzz37EACyJ4Z
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Just so you don't think I'm killing Lebron I actually enjoyed his letter a lot. You can tell this was a family decision to return home. That going home every offseason he probably heard the whispers how he betrayed them and it got to him. Lebron wants to be liked and the thought of his hometown hating him probably took a toll on him.
I also think Lebron wants to be in a situation where he isn't the clear cut favorite. Where if he wins a title it's a huge accomplishment and if they fall short it's not the end of the world failure which was Miami's situation.
I actually think America will embrace Lebron this next year and will actually be rooting for him to win a title while most were rooting against him while in Miami.
