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  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    Lefty fact check says this is a baseless claim.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Yesterday the White House claimed that what Kerry told the Iranians was no big deal since it was already public knowledge but Kerry hadn't got the memo because he claimed he never gave them the information. So who is lying?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    Yesterday the White House claimed that what Kerry told the Iranians was no big deal since it was already public knowledge but Kerry hadn't got the memo because he claimed he never gave them the information. So who is lying?

    Its not like our democracy dies in darkness media gives a shit so who cares?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Kerry said this wasn’t true.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club
    Morgan Ortagus, the spokesperson for the State Department under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News' "Fox and Friends" Tuesday that Zarif is Iran's "chief propagandist" but there are a "lot of problems" with Kerry's conversations with the key Iranian official.

    "Joe Biden did an interview with PBS a few years ago where he talked about the fact that John Kerry and Zarif used to talk to each other on John Kerry's cell phone," said Ortagus. "When I worked with Secretary (Mike) Pompeo, you always (went) through the State Department operation center for calls between foreign ministers, between leaders so that way there is a transcript and people know what's being said."

    Kerry also has a "pattern of undermining Israel," said Ortagus. "There is some very, very odd pattern of behavior where John Kerry seems to be beholden to the Iranians and works at every inch he can against Israel."
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    Kerry of all people should have been brought up on charges for his meddling with foreign policy.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club
    https://foxnews.com/politics/john-kerry-iran-trump-biden-washington-times


    Biden administration officials, including John Kerry and Robert Malley, had meetings with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif during the Trump administration that were orchestrated to undermine President Biden's predecessor, a recent report from The Washington Times claims.

    Zarif held meetings with Obama administration veterans who could return to power "to devise a political strategy to undermine the Trump administration" and usher in softer diplomacy between the U.S. and Iran, according to an unnamed former senior U.S. official cited by The Washington Times.



    The official was discussing face-to-face meetings between Zarif and influential Democrats in 2017, 2018 and 2019, according to The Washington Times.


    Kerry has been open about the fact that he met with Zarif at least twice during the Trump administration, prompting Trump to say he should be prosecuted under the Logan Act because of the meetings.


    Hard to believe that the SOS who signed off on giving billions of dollars cash to a terrorist state while admitting it would be used to kill Americans would be part of this malarkey. Real fucking hard

  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Morgan Ortagus, the spokesperson for the State Department under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News' "Fox and Friends" Tuesday that Zarif is Iran's "chief propagandist" but there are a "lot of problems" with Kerry's conversations with the key Iranian official.

    "Joe Biden did an interview with PBS a few years ago where he talked about the fact that John Kerry and Zarif used to talk to each other on John Kerry's cell phone," said Ortagus. "When I worked with Secretary (Mike) Pompeo, you always (went) through the State Department operation center for calls between foreign ministers, between leaders so that way there is a transcript and people know what's being said."

    Kerry also has a "pattern of undermining Israel," said Ortagus. "There is some very, very odd pattern of behavior where John Kerry seems to be beholden to the Iranians and works at every inch he can against Israel."

    Lots of liars arguing about who's lying. Roll the dice.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Morgan Ortagus, the spokesperson for the State Department under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News' "Fox and Friends" Tuesday that Zarif is Iran's "chief propagandist" but there are a "lot of problems" with Kerry's conversations with the key Iranian official.

    "Joe Biden did an interview with PBS a few years ago where he talked about the fact that John Kerry and Zarif used to talk to each other on John Kerry's cell phone," said Ortagus. "When I worked with Secretary (Mike) Pompeo, you always (went) through the State Department operation center for calls between foreign ministers, between leaders so that way there is a transcript and people know what's being said."

    Kerry also has a "pattern of undermining Israel," said Ortagus. "There is some very, very odd pattern of behavior where John Kerry seems to be beholden to the Iranians and works at every inch he can against Israel."

    Lots of liars arguing about who's lying. Roll the dice.
    I blame Conservative who are fighting the culture wars rather than stopping John Kerry from lying.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club

    Morgan Ortagus, the spokesperson for the State Department under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News' "Fox and Friends" Tuesday that Zarif is Iran's "chief propagandist" but there are a "lot of problems" with Kerry's conversations with the key Iranian official.

    "Joe Biden did an interview with PBS a few years ago where he talked about the fact that John Kerry and Zarif used to talk to each other on John Kerry's cell phone," said Ortagus. "When I worked with Secretary (Mike) Pompeo, you always (went) through the State Department operation center for calls between foreign ministers, between leaders so that way there is a transcript and people know what's being said."

    Kerry also has a "pattern of undermining Israel," said Ortagus. "There is some very, very odd pattern of behavior where John Kerry seems to be beholden to the Iranians and works at every inch he can against Israel."

    Lots of liars arguing about who's lying. Roll the dice.
    Except for Kerry admitting it sure

    Now he is denying it. Not hard to find the liar

    What does Iran gain by lying about Kerry and igniting the right wing against them again?

    Alert readers remember this rom 17 and 18 and posted on it at the time

    Kerry is the liar. Same as always
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Morgan Ortagus, the spokesperson for the State Department under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News' "Fox and Friends" Tuesday that Zarif is Iran's "chief propagandist" but there are a "lot of problems" with Kerry's conversations with the key Iranian official.

    "Joe Biden did an interview with PBS a few years ago where he talked about the fact that John Kerry and Zarif used to talk to each other on John Kerry's cell phone," said Ortagus. "When I worked with Secretary (Mike) Pompeo, you always (went) through the State Department operation center for calls between foreign ministers, between leaders so that way there is a transcript and people know what's being said."

    Kerry also has a "pattern of undermining Israel," said Ortagus. "There is some very, very odd pattern of behavior where John Kerry seems to be beholden to the Iranians and works at every inch he can against Israel."

    Lots of liars arguing about who's lying. Roll the dice.
    I blame Conservative who are fighting the culture wars rather than stopping John Kerry from lying.
    Try as Authoritarians might to hide it, their fealty always seeps through.

    Morgan Ortagus, the spokesperson for the State Department under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News' "Fox and Friends" Tuesday that Zarif is Iran's "chief propagandist" but there are a "lot of problems" with Kerry's conversations with the key Iranian official.

    "Joe Biden did an interview with PBS a few years ago where he talked about the fact that John Kerry and Zarif used to talk to each other on John Kerry's cell phone," said Ortagus. "When I worked with Secretary (Mike) Pompeo, you always (went) through the State Department operation center for calls between foreign ministers, between leaders so that way there is a transcript and people know what's being said."

    Kerry also has a "pattern of undermining Israel," said Ortagus. "There is some very, very odd pattern of behavior where John Kerry seems to be beholden to the Iranians and works at every inch he can against Israel."

    Lots of liars arguing about who's lying. Roll the dice.
    2005 Al Franken called and wants his Bill O'Reilly schtick back.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Morgan Ortagus, the spokesperson for the State Department under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News' "Fox and Friends" Tuesday that Zarif is Iran's "chief propagandist" but there are a "lot of problems" with Kerry's conversations with the key Iranian official.

    "Joe Biden did an interview with PBS a few years ago where he talked about the fact that John Kerry and Zarif used to talk to each other on John Kerry's cell phone," said Ortagus. "When I worked with Secretary (Mike) Pompeo, you always (went) through the State Department operation center for calls between foreign ministers, between leaders so that way there is a transcript and people know what's being said."

    Kerry also has a "pattern of undermining Israel," said Ortagus. "There is some very, very odd pattern of behavior where John Kerry seems to be beholden to the Iranians and works at every inch he can against Israel."

    Lots of liars arguing about who's lying. Roll the dice.
    Except for Kerry admitting it sure

    Now he is denying it. Not hard to find the liar

    What does Iran gain by lying about Kerry and igniting the right wing against them again?

    Alert readers remember this rom 17 and 18 and posted on it at the time

    Kerry is the liar. Same as always
    What he's admitted and what he's denying are different things. I have no problem believing that Kerry was butthurt about Trump reneging the Iran deal. He could've committed treason and now he's lying about it because that's what traitors do. Iran could also be bullshitting because it's what they do and having Biden's "special envoy" stripped of all credibility is good god damn business.

    I'm always right so I'll preserve my 1.000 batting average and courageously plead no contest. LIPO. Put him behind bars if he committed treason. Tell Pompeo and Ortagus to fuck off if he didn't.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Glad to see we are taking the word of a hated enemy of the state over an American.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club

    Glad to see we are taking the word of a hated enemy of the state over an American.

    Over the American that has been in contact for years with the "hated enemy" and sent them 400 billion? That American?

    Keep sucking that dick

    Kerry admitted it. Get some decent spin or fuck off already
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,652 Founders Club

    Glad to see we are taking the word of a hated enemy of the state over an American.

    So no need to investigate this then?
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346


    Kerry admitted it.

    Link?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club


    Kerry admitted it.

    Link?
    Its on this page idiot

    The proud to be ignorant defense. A fav of the left
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Glad to see we are taking the word of a hated enemy of the state over an American.

    Over the American that has been in contact for years with the "hated enemy" and sent them 400 billion? That American?

    Keep sucking that dick

    Kerry admitted it. Get some decent spin or fuck off already
    Kerry admitted to having conversations with Zarif. Now he's being accused of disclosing presumably classified information about Israeli military operations.

    Some of you need to learn the difference.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Glad to see we are taking the word of a hated enemy of the state over an American.

    Over the American that has been in contact for years with the "hated enemy" and sent them 400 billion? That American?

    Keep sucking that dick

    Kerry admitted it. Get some decent spin or fuck off already
    Kerry admitted to having conversations with Zarif. Now he's being accused of disclosing presumably classified information about Israeli military operations.

    Some of you need to learn the difference.
    Eggzackly.

    "Classified info" of common knowledge. Big if true.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club
    Of course the conversation was illegal in itself but still

    Kerry has been open about the fact that he met with Zarif at least twice during the Trump administration, prompting Trump to say he should be prosecuted under the Logan Act because of the meetings.


    Private citizens don't get to undermine the policy of the United States. Your team of assclowns tried to impeach the president for less and he was the president

    Kerry needs to be investigated not get a bunch of lame spin from the usual idiots on the left

    Stay centered gator
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Of course the conversation was illegal in itself but still

    Kerry has been open about the fact that he met with Zarif at least twice during the Trump administration, prompting Trump to say he should be prosecuted under the Logan Act because of the meetings.


    Private citizens don't get to undermine the policy of the United States. Your team of assclowns tried to impeach the president for less and he was the president

    Kerry needs to be investigated not get a bunch of lame spin from the usual idiots on the left

    Stay centered gator

    Known Statist chimes in.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Of course the conversation was illegal in itself but still

    Kerry has been open about the fact that he met with Zarif at least twice during the Trump administration, prompting Trump to say he should be prosecuted under the Logan Act because of the meetings.


    Private citizens don't get to undermine the policy of the United States. Your team of assclowns tried to impeach the president for less and he was the president

    Kerry needs to be investigated not get a bunch of lame spin from the usual idiots on the left

    Stay centered gator

    Trump probably should have DONE SOMETHING then.

    Anyways, I have no problem with Kerry being investigated. I also have zero faith in Biden's DOJ actually doing anything about it, especially since Barr didn't, but whatever.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club
    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/feb/21/john-kerry-held-backchannel-talks-iran-javad-zarif/


    President Trump in 2019 sought to open a back channel of communication with top Iranian officials and saw the U.N. General Assembly meeting in September as a potential opportunity to defuse escalating tension with Tehran, but the effort failed.

    Two months earlier, however, a different back channel was thriving in New York. Iran’s smooth, English-speaking foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, met with Robert Malley, who was President Obama’s Middle East adviser, in an apparent bid to undermine the Trump team and lay the groundwork for post-Trump relations.

    SEE ALSO: Iranian lawmakers press hard line as U.N. nuclear chief visits Tehran

    The attempt at counterdiplomacy offers a window into the deep relationships Mr. Zarif forged with influential U.S. liberals over the past decade. These relationships blossomed into what high-level national security and intelligence sources say allowed the Iranian regime to bypass Mr. Trump and work directly with Obama administration veterans that Tehran hoped would soon return to power in Washington.

    One of those was former Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who met with Mr. Zarif during the Trump years. So did Obama-era Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz. They, along with Mr. Malley, were top U.S. negotiators of the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). As part of the deal, Tehran promised to limit its nuclear enrichment activities in exchange for economic sanctions relief and access to tens of billions of dollars in frozen bank accounts.

    Mr. Trump pulled the U.S. out of the pact in 2018. He cited the need for a much tougher agreement that also addressed Iran’s support for terrorist groups and its destabilizing behavior in the Middle East.

    Mr. Kerry and Mr. Malley are now in the Biden administration, Mr. Kerry as a climate adviser and Mr. Malley poised to play a major role in U.S.-Iranian relations from his perch as special envoy for Iran policy at the State Department.

    But Mr. Zarif’s power extends far beyond the negotiating table. Numerous sources have told The Washington Times that he wields tremendous influence over a tightly knit group inside the U.S. that has long advocated for Washington to take a more accommodating tack toward Iran.

    The sources, including several from the U.S. intelligence community who spoke on the condition of anonymity, described a “web” of activity tied to prominent think tanks across the United States, as well as lobbying efforts that reached directly into the White House during the Obama years.

    It’s an informal union of Iran apologists and pro-diplomacy advocates that helps amplify Mr. Zarif’s talking points, giving the Iranian Foreign Ministry influence over public opinion in the United States and considerable sway in left-leaning political and social circles.

    One former U.S. official described Mr. Zarif as “the bat signal” for a network that encompasses left-leaning university professors, think tank analysts and other corners of civil society calling for a less-confrontational relationship with the regime in Tehran.

    “He’s the signal for an echo chamber internationally that has been established over time,” the former official said.



    Proving once again there is no dick the board leftards won't suck rather than admit anything is wrong with this picture

    Lie and deflect and throw some lame humor out there.

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    https://foxnews.com/politics/john-kerry-iran-trump-biden-washington-times


    Biden administration officials, including John Kerry and Robert Malley, had meetings with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif during the Trump administration that were orchestrated to undermine President Biden's predecessor, a recent report from The Washington Times claims.

    Zarif held meetings with Obama administration veterans who could return to power "to devise a political strategy to undermine the Trump administration" and usher in softer diplomacy between the U.S. and Iran, according to an unnamed former senior U.S. official cited by The Washington Times.



    The official was discussing face-to-face meetings between Zarif and influential Democrats in 2017, 2018 and 2019, according to The Washington Times.


    Kerry has been open about the fact that he met with Zarif at least twice during the Trump administration, prompting Trump to say he should be prosecuted under the Logan Act because of the meetings.


    Hard to believe that the SOS who signed off on giving billions of dollars cash to a terrorist state while admitting it would be used to kill Americans would be part of this malarkey. Real fucking hard

    John Kerry said it didn’t happen. I read it in the MSM so it’s been fact checked. End of discussion.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/feb/21/john-kerry-held-backchannel-talks-iran-javad-zarif/


    President Trump in 2019 sought to open a back channel of communication with top Iranian officials and saw the U.N. General Assembly meeting in September as a potential opportunity to defuse escalating tension with Tehran, but the effort failed.

    Two months earlier, however, a different back channel was thriving in New York. Iran’s smooth, English-speaking foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, met with Robert Malley, who was President Obama’s Middle East adviser, in an apparent bid to undermine the Trump team and lay the groundwork for post-Trump relations.

    SEE ALSO: Iranian lawmakers press hard line as U.N. nuclear chief visits Tehran

    The attempt at counterdiplomacy offers a window into the deep relationships Mr. Zarif forged with influential U.S. liberals over the past decade. These relationships blossomed into what high-level national security and intelligence sources say allowed the Iranian regime to bypass Mr. Trump and work directly with Obama administration veterans that Tehran hoped would soon return to power in Washington.

    One of those was former Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who met with Mr. Zarif during the Trump years. So did Obama-era Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz. They, along with Mr. Malley, were top U.S. negotiators of the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). As part of the deal, Tehran promised to limit its nuclear enrichment activities in exchange for economic sanctions relief and access to tens of billions of dollars in frozen bank accounts.

    Mr. Trump pulled the U.S. out of the pact in 2018. He cited the need for a much tougher agreement that also addressed Iran’s support for terrorist groups and its destabilizing behavior in the Middle East.

    Mr. Kerry and Mr. Malley are now in the Biden administration, Mr. Kerry as a climate adviser and Mr. Malley poised to play a major role in U.S.-Iranian relations from his perch as special envoy for Iran policy at the State Department.

    But Mr. Zarif’s power extends far beyond the negotiating table. Numerous sources have told The Washington Times that he wields tremendous influence over a tightly knit group inside the U.S. that has long advocated for Washington to take a more accommodating tack toward Iran.

    The sources, including several from the U.S. intelligence community who spoke on the condition of anonymity, described a “web” of activity tied to prominent think tanks across the United States, as well as lobbying efforts that reached directly into the White House during the Obama years.

    It’s an informal union of Iran apologists and pro-diplomacy advocates that helps amplify Mr. Zarif’s talking points, giving the Iranian Foreign Ministry influence over public opinion in the United States and considerable sway in left-leaning political and social circles.

    One former U.S. official described Mr. Zarif as “the bat signal” for a network that encompasses left-leaning university professors, think tank analysts and other corners of civil society calling for a less-confrontational relationship with the regime in Tehran.

    “He’s the signal for an echo chamber internationally that has been established over time,” the former official said.



    Proving once again there is no dick the board leftards won't suck rather than admit anything is wrong with this picture

    Lie and deflect and throw some lame humor out there.

    Such crap... that is treasonous imo
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/feb/21/john-kerry-held-backchannel-talks-iran-javad-zarif/


    President Trump in 2019 sought to open a back channel of communication with top Iranian officials and saw the U.N. General Assembly meeting in September as a potential opportunity to defuse escalating tension with Tehran, but the effort failed.

    Two months earlier, however, a different back channel was thriving in New York. Iran’s smooth, English-speaking foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, met with Robert Malley, who was President Obama’s Middle East adviser, in an apparent bid to undermine the Trump team and lay the groundwork for post-Trump relations.

    SEE ALSO: Iranian lawmakers press hard line as U.N. nuclear chief visits Tehran

    The attempt at counterdiplomacy offers a window into the deep relationships Mr. Zarif forged with influential U.S. liberals over the past decade. These relationships blossomed into what high-level national security and intelligence sources say allowed the Iranian regime to bypass Mr. Trump and work directly with Obama administration veterans that Tehran hoped would soon return to power in Washington.

    One of those was former Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who met with Mr. Zarif during the Trump years. So did Obama-era Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz. They, along with Mr. Malley, were top U.S. negotiators of the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). As part of the deal, Tehran promised to limit its nuclear enrichment activities in exchange for economic sanctions relief and access to tens of billions of dollars in frozen bank accounts.

    Mr. Trump pulled the U.S. out of the pact in 2018. He cited the need for a much tougher agreement that also addressed Iran’s support for terrorist groups and its destabilizing behavior in the Middle East.

    Mr. Kerry and Mr. Malley are now in the Biden administration, Mr. Kerry as a climate adviser and Mr. Malley poised to play a major role in U.S.-Iranian relations from his perch as special envoy for Iran policy at the State Department.

    But Mr. Zarif’s power extends far beyond the negotiating table. Numerous sources have told The Washington Times that he wields tremendous influence over a tightly knit group inside the U.S. that has long advocated for Washington to take a more accommodating tack toward Iran.

    The sources, including several from the U.S. intelligence community who spoke on the condition of anonymity, described a “web” of activity tied to prominent think tanks across the United States, as well as lobbying efforts that reached directly into the White House during the Obama years.

    It’s an informal union of Iran apologists and pro-diplomacy advocates that helps amplify Mr. Zarif’s talking points, giving the Iranian Foreign Ministry influence over public opinion in the United States and considerable sway in left-leaning political and social circles.

    One former U.S. official described Mr. Zarif as “the bat signal” for a network that encompasses left-leaning university professors, think tank analysts and other corners of civil society calling for a less-confrontational relationship with the regime in Tehran.

    “He’s the signal for an echo chamber internationally that has been established over time,” the former official said.



    Proving once again there is no dick the board leftards won't suck rather than admit anything is wrong with this picture

    Lie and deflect and throw some lame humor out there.

    Right. I'm already on record as saying it "sounds like treason".

    But as brilliant as I am, I don't have the credentials to say if this violates the Logan Act or not. We can't all be experts on everything, though I know you'll claim to be. So maybe he did commit treason and there wasn't enough evidence. Maybe he just didn't commit treason. Maybe the Trump admin being the boobs they were fumbled an easy conviction. You've already reached your verdict, and that's fine I guess. Don't really care.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346



    Lie and deflect and throw some lame humor out there.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,799 Founders Club

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/feb/21/john-kerry-held-backchannel-talks-iran-javad-zarif/


    President Trump in 2019 sought to open a back channel of communication with top Iranian officials and saw the U.N. General Assembly meeting in September as a potential opportunity to defuse escalating tension with Tehran, but the effort failed.

    Two months earlier, however, a different back channel was thriving in New York. Iran’s smooth, English-speaking foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, met with Robert Malley, who was President Obama’s Middle East adviser, in an apparent bid to undermine the Trump team and lay the groundwork for post-Trump relations.

    SEE ALSO: Iranian lawmakers press hard line as U.N. nuclear chief visits Tehran

    The attempt at counterdiplomacy offers a window into the deep relationships Mr. Zarif forged with influential U.S. liberals over the past decade. These relationships blossomed into what high-level national security and intelligence sources say allowed the Iranian regime to bypass Mr. Trump and work directly with Obama administration veterans that Tehran hoped would soon return to power in Washington.

    One of those was former Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who met with Mr. Zarif during the Trump years. So did Obama-era Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz. They, along with Mr. Malley, were top U.S. negotiators of the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). As part of the deal, Tehran promised to limit its nuclear enrichment activities in exchange for economic sanctions relief and access to tens of billions of dollars in frozen bank accounts.

    Mr. Trump pulled the U.S. out of the pact in 2018. He cited the need for a much tougher agreement that also addressed Iran’s support for terrorist groups and its destabilizing behavior in the Middle East.

    Mr. Kerry and Mr. Malley are now in the Biden administration, Mr. Kerry as a climate adviser and Mr. Malley poised to play a major role in U.S.-Iranian relations from his perch as special envoy for Iran policy at the State Department.

    But Mr. Zarif’s power extends far beyond the negotiating table. Numerous sources have told The Washington Times that he wields tremendous influence over a tightly knit group inside the U.S. that has long advocated for Washington to take a more accommodating tack toward Iran.

    The sources, including several from the U.S. intelligence community who spoke on the condition of anonymity, described a “web” of activity tied to prominent think tanks across the United States, as well as lobbying efforts that reached directly into the White House during the Obama years.

    It’s an informal union of Iran apologists and pro-diplomacy advocates that helps amplify Mr. Zarif’s talking points, giving the Iranian Foreign Ministry influence over public opinion in the United States and considerable sway in left-leaning political and social circles.

    One former U.S. official described Mr. Zarif as “the bat signal” for a network that encompasses left-leaning university professors, think tank analysts and other corners of civil society calling for a less-confrontational relationship with the regime in Tehran.

    “He’s the signal for an echo chamber internationally that has been established over time,” the former official said.



    Proving once again there is no dick the board leftards won't suck rather than admit anything is wrong with this picture

    Lie and deflect and throw some lame humor out there.

    Right. I'm already on record as saying it "sounds like treason".

    But as brilliant as I am, I don't have the credentials to say if this violates the Logan Act or not. We can't all be experts on everything, though I know you'll claim to be. So maybe he did commit treason and there wasn't enough evidence. Maybe he just didn't commit treason. Maybe the Trump admin being the boobs they were fumbled an easy conviction. You've already reached your verdict, and that's fine I guess. Don't really care.
    So need to investigate

    Solid

    I remember when Trump got impeached on the word of a partisan hack


    Head in the sand it's a Democrat move on
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Glad to see we are taking the word of a hated enemy of the state over an American.

    Which word? The one that claims Kerry never said it? Or the one that claims Kerry said it but it was already public knowledge?