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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,267
    edited July 2014
    You really gotta be some kind of a-hole to run a play like that in Pop Warner. I'm sure all the coaches thought they were geniuses though by fooling those 7th graders.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,304 Founders Club
    Gil Dobie was an asshole.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    I prefer one of our WRs diving for a ball out of bounds, and taking out kim in the process.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Passion said:

    I prefer one of our WRs diving for a ball out of bounds, and taking out kim in the process.

    Just hope they don't hit Fetters. Be like trying to survive a mudslide in Oso.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,267
    True....but Gil Dobie didn't have to run trick plays against 7th graders to prove it.

    Gil Dobie was an asshole.

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    HuskyJW said:

    True....but Gil Dobie didn't have to run trick plays against 7th graders to prove it.

    Gil Dobie was an asshole.

    Disagree.

    Warshington 20, Lincoln HS 0 (10-08-1910)
    Warshington 42, Lincoln HS 0 (10-02-1911)
    Warshington 26, Everett HS 0 (09-27-1913)
    Warshington 33, Aberdeen HS 6 (09-26-1914) the fuck? got scored on by high school kids?

  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    AZDuck said:

    HuskyJW said:

    True....but Gil Dobie didn't have to run trick plays against 7th graders to prove it.

    Gil Dobie was an asshole.

    Disagree.

    Warshington 20, Lincoln HS 0 (10-08-1910)
    Warshington 42, Lincoln HS 0 (10-02-1911)
    Warshington 26, Everett HS 0 (09-27-1913)
    Warshington 33, Aberdeen HS 6 (09-26-1914) the fuck? got scored on by high school kids?

    but still
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Did Gil have to face a ranked Oregon State?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    MisterEm said:

    Did Gil have to face a ranked Oregon State?

    Nor a ranked USS Tennessee
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Nor a ranked Bremerton Navy Yard

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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Give me power fucking I, run D. Washington up the middle.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Just did some looking - the USS Tennessee had a very Sark-like 8-5 record:

    Enemy ships destroyed: 8
    Number of times Tennessee damaged by enemy aircraft or enemy fire

    Action/Damage

    (1) Pearl Harbor/Two Bomb Hits.
    (2) Eniwetok/One man wounded by rife fire from the beach.
    (3) Saipan/Three hits from enemy 6 inch shore battery.
    (4) Iwo Jima/Two hits from enemy 37 mm battery.
    (5) Okinawa/Suicide plane with bomb hit ship on 12 April 1945
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    Just did some looking - the USS Tennessee had a very Sark-like 8-5 record:

    Enemy ships destroyed: 8
    Number of times Tennessee damaged by enemy aircraft or enemy fire

    Action/Damage

    (1) Pearl Harbor/Two Bomb Hits.
    (2) Eniwetok/One man wounded by rife fire from the beach.
    (3) Saipan/Three hits from enemy 6 inch shore battery.
    (4) Iwo Jima/Two hits from enemy 37 mm battery.
    (5) Okinawa/Suicide plane with bomb hit ship on 12 April 1945

    And just like Sark, just needed more time to get its own semen seamen in there.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,304 Founders Club
    Actually, Dobie ran something called the "Bunk Play", which was something akin to the fumblerooski. It helped beat Oregon, and Oregon protested mightily to some governing body (can't remember who, they weren't in the PCC yet).
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited July 2014
    In particular, one play is of interest, the Dobie-Bunk Play, which he inserted for the Oregon game in 1911. The center faked a handoff to Coyle and kept the ball while the two guards fell down in front of the center. Coyle took off his leather helmet, tucked it under one arm and bolted around end. After counting to 3, the center turned and handed the ball off to the end, who scampered in the opposite direction from Coyle and scored a touchdown. No one knew what happened. Washington won the game 29-3. Sometime later, the play was declared illegal. (See the "Ghost of Dobie," by Mike Archbold, for a humorous description of the play and his witty characterizations of Dobie.
    (http://www.4malamute.com/plaque2.html)

    Fuck that guy.

    It was common practice at the University of Washington for a large percentage of athletes to work a year or two between high school and matriculation. This gave them a maturity and seasoning that was highly advantageous in building any sort of an athletics endeavor. This practice most likely explains the ages of the four footballers pictured on page 451 of a document published in 1914, titled, "Washington--A University of the Northwest," by Henry J. Case.

    The players pictured are:

    BeVan Presley, Senior, Center, age 24;
    Wayne Sutton, Senior, Right End, age 22
    Cedric Miller, Sophomore, Left Half, age 21
    Herman Anderson, Senior, Right Tackle, Age 23

    Presley's photo showed a receding hairline.



    Double fuck that guy.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    The Bremerton Navy Yard Team was no joke back in the day.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,304 Founders Club
    Don James never had to go against a ranked Bremerton Navy Yard team.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Don James never had to go against a ranked Bremerton Navy Yard team.

    No one did...
  • longduckdong
    longduckdong Member Posts: 1,056
    Gladstone said:

    Give me power fucking I, run D. Washington up the middle.

    Gladstone said:

    Give me power fucking I, run D. Washington up the middle.

    Whats difference between I and power I?

    UW has no fullback.

    Try again
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Gladstone said:

    Give me power fucking I, run D. Washington up the middle.

    Gladstone said:

    Give me power fucking I, run D. Washington up the middle.

    Whats difference between I and power I?

    UW has no fullback.

    Try again
    DISAGREE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2T3Ln_c5qM

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,168
    Proverb Wutang 99 yards to the HOUSE

    WOOF
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

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    I formation
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This article is about American football. For the I formation in tennis doubles, see Glossary of tennis#I.


    Standard I formation
    The I formation is one of the most common offensive formations in American football. The I formation draws its name from the vertical (as viewed from the opposing endzone) alignment of quarterback, fullback, and running back, particularly when contrasted with the same players' alignments in the T formation.

    The formation begins with the usual 5 offensive linemen (2 offensive tackles, 2 guards, and a center), the quarterback under center, and two backs in-line behind the quarterback. The base variant adds a tight end to one side of the line and two wide receivers, one at each end of the line.

    Contents [hide]
    1 History
    2 Typical roles
    3 Common variations
    4 In professional football
    5 See also
    6 References
    History[edit]
    The exact origin of the I formation is unclear.[1] Tom Nugent is credited with developing the I formation at Virginia Military Institute in 1950 as a replacement for the single-wing and an alternative to the T formation.[2] Don Coryell, before popularizing Air Coryell, was also a pioneer of the I and used it as a high school coach in Hawaii, at Wenatchee Valley College in 1955, and at Whittier College in 1957-1959.[1][3] In 1960, Coryell was an assistant coach under John McKay for the USC Trojans. By 1962, McKay's USC team won the national title with an offense built on the I.[4] John Madden recalled going to an I formation clinic led by McKay.[5] "We'd go to these clinics, and afterward, everyone would run up to talk to McKay," said Madden. "Coryell was there because he introduced (McKay). I was thinking, 'If (McKay) learned from him, I'll go talk to (Coryell).' [5]"

    Tom Osborne, head football coach at Nebraska, further popularized the formation in the early 1970s (while the offensive coordinator under head coach Bob Devaney). It was the base of the Nebraska option offense for over thirty years.[6] NFL teams followed the success of the I at the college level and adopted it as well.

    Typical roles[edit]


    Texas Longhorns in the I formation. From top to bottom: tailback, fullback, quarterback, center
    The I formation is typically employed in running situations. In the I formation, the tailback starts six to eight yards behind the scrimmage from an upright position, where he can survey the defense. The formation gives the tailback more opportunities for finding weak points in the defense to run into.

    The fullback typically fills a blocking, rather than rushing or receiving, role in the modern game. With the fullback in the backfield as a blocker, runs can be made to either side of the line with his additional blocking support. This is contrasted with the use of tight ends as blockers who, being set up at the end of the line, are able to support runs to one side of the line only. The fullback can also be used as a feint—since the defense can spot him more easily than the running back, they may be drawn in his direction while the running back takes the ball the opposite way.

    Despite the emphasis on the running game, the I formation remains an effective base for a passing attack. The formation supports up to three wide receivers and many running backs serve as an additional receiving threat. While the fullback is rarely a pass receiver, he serves as a capable additional pass blocker protecting the quarterback before the pass. The running threat posed by the formation also lends itself to the play-action pass. The flexible nature of the formation also helps prevent defenses from focusing their attention on either the run or pass.

    Common variations[edit]


    Big I formation variation
    Many subtypes of the I formation exist, generally emphasizing the running or passing strengths of the base version.

    The Big I places a tight end on each side of the offensive line (removing a wide receiver). Coupled with the fullback's blocking, this allows two additional blockers for a run in either direction. This is a running-emphasis variant.
    The Power I replaces one wide receiver with a third back (fullback or running back) in the backfield, set up to one side of the fullback. This is a running-emphasis variant.
    The Jumbo or Goal-line formation further extends the Power I or Big I, adding a second tight end and/or third tackle to the line, respectively. This variant has no wide receivers and is all but exclusively a running formation intended to reliably gain minimal yardage, most commonly two yards or less.
    The Three-wide I replaces the tight end with a third wide receiver. This is a passing-emphasis variant.
    The Maryland I (also known as the Stack I) is similar to the Power I except that instead of placing the third back to one side of the fullback, the fullback, third back, and tailback line up directly in front of each other (hence the term “Stack”). Obviously, this is a running-emphasis variant made popular by the Maryland Terrapins football team of the 1950s under Tom Nugent.
    The Tight I is similar to the Maryland I except that the extra back (who happens to be the tight end) is aligned between the quarterback and fullback in the alignment. The split end and the player who normally lines up as flanker are both aligned on the line of scrimmage split away from the end man on the line of scrimmage. This formation was used by the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl IV against the Minnesota Vikings so as to create confusion in the Minnesota defense's lining up against the Chiefs offense.
    The I formation, in any variant, can also be modified as Strong or Weak. This formation is commonly called an Offset I. In either case, the fullback lines up roughly a yard laterally to his usual position. Strong refers to a move towards the TE side of the formation (Primary TE, or flanker's side when in a "big" 2TE set), weak in the opposite direction. These modifications have little effect on expected play call. However, the Offset I allows a fullback to more easily avoid blockers and get out of the backfield to become a receiver.

    In professional football[edit]
    In the NFL, the I formation is less frequently used than in college, as the use of the fullback as a blocker has given way to formations with additional tight ends and wide receivers, who may be called on to block during running plays. The increasingly common ace formation replaces the fullback with an additional receiver, who lines up along the line of scrimmage. The I will typically be used in short-yardage and goal line situations.

    See also[edit]
    Wikimedia Commons has media related to I formation.
    American football strategy
    References[edit]
    ^ Jump up to: a b Layden, Tim. "Don Coryell 1924--2010". SI.com. Retrieved 2010-07-07.
    Jump up ^ Tom Nugent obituary, USA Today
    Jump up ^ Center, Bill. "Don Coryell, ex-Chargers, Aztecs coach dies at 85". San Diego Union-Tribune. Retrieved 2010-07-07.
    Jump up ^ The I Formation: Offensive Bread and Butter, footballoutsiders.com
    ^ Jump up to: a b Inman, Cam. "For Don Coryell, to air was divine". San Jose Mercury News. Retrieved 2010-07-07.
    Jump up ^ Tom Osborne biography, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

    This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2009)
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    I formation
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This article is about American football. For the I formation in tennis doubles, see Glossary of tennis#I.


    Standard I formation
    The I formation is one of the most common offensive formations in American football. The I formation draws its name from the vertical (as viewed from the opposing endzone) alignment of quarterback, fullback, and running back, particularly when contrasted with the same players' alignments in the T formation.

    The formation begins with the usual 5 offensive linemen (2 offensive tackles, 2 guards, and a center), the quarterback under center, and two backs in-line behind the quarterback. The base variant adds a tight end to one side of the line and two wide receivers, one at each end of the line.

    Contents [hide]
    1 History
    2 Typical roles
    3 Common variations
    4 In professional football
    5 See also
    6 References
    History[edit]
    The exact origin of the I formation is unclear.[1] Tom Nugent is credited with developing the I formation at Virginia Military Institute in 1950 as a replacement for the single-wing and an alternative to the T formation.[2] Don Coryell, before popularizing Air Coryell, was also a pioneer of the I and used it as a high school coach in Hawaii, at Wenatchee Valley College in 1955, and at Whittier College in 1957-1959.[1][3] In 1960, Coryell was an assistant coach under John McKay for the USC Trojans. By 1962, McKay's USC team won the national title with an offense built on the I.[4] John Madden recalled going to an I formation clinic led by McKay.[5] "We'd go to these clinics, and afterward, everyone would run up to talk to McKay," said Madden. "Coryell was there because he introduced (McKay). I was thinking, 'If (McKay) learned from him, I'll go talk to (Coryell).' [5]"

    Tom Osborne, head football coach at Nebraska, further popularized the formation in the early 1970s (while the offensive coordinator under head coach Bob Devaney). It was the base of the Nebraska option offense for over thirty years.[6] NFL teams followed the success of the I at the college level and adopted it as well.

    Typical roles[edit]


    Texas Longhorns in the I formation. From top to bottom: tailback, fullback, quarterback, center
    The I formation is typically employed in running situations. In the I formation, the tailback starts six to eight yards behind the scrimmage from an upright position, where he can survey the defense. The formation gives the tailback more opportunities for finding weak points in the defense to run into.

    The fullback typically fills a blocking, rather than rushing or receiving, role in the modern game. With the fullback in the backfield as a blocker, runs can be made to either side of the line with his additional blocking support. This is contrasted with the use of tight ends as blockers who, being set up at the end of the line, are able to support runs to one side of the line only. The fullback can also be used as a feint—since the defense can spot him more easily than the running back, they may be drawn in his direction while the running back takes the ball the opposite way.

    Despite the emphasis on the running game, the I formation remains an effective base for a passing attack. The formation supports up to three wide receivers and many running backs serve as an additional receiving threat. While the fullback is rarely a pass receiver, he serves as a capable additional pass blocker protecting the quarterback before the pass. The running threat posed by the formation also lends itself to the play-action pass. The flexible nature of the formation also helps prevent defenses from focusing their attention on either the run or pass.

    Common variations[edit]


    Big I formation variation
    Many subtypes of the I formation exist, generally emphasizing the running or passing strengths of the base version.

    The Big I places a tight end on each side of the offensive line (removing a wide receiver). Coupled with the fullback's blocking, this allows two additional blockers for a run in either direction. This is a running-emphasis variant.
    The Power I replaces one wide receiver with a third back (fullback or running back) in the backfield, set up to one side of the fullback. This is a running-emphasis variant.
    The Jumbo or Goal-line formation further extends the Power I or Big I, adding a second tight end and/or third tackle to the line, respectively. This variant has no wide receivers and is all but exclusively a running formation intended to reliably gain minimal yardage, most commonly two yards or less.
    The Three-wide I replaces the tight end with a third wide receiver. This is a passing-emphasis variant.
    The Maryland I (also known as the Stack I) is similar to the Power I except that instead of placing the third back to one side of the fullback, the fullback, third back, and tailback line up directly in front of each other (hence the term “Stack”). Obviously, this is a running-emphasis variant made popular by the Maryland Terrapins football team of the 1950s under Tom Nugent.
    The Tight I is similar to the Maryland I except that the extra back (who happens to be the tight end) is aligned between the quarterback and fullback in the alignment. The split end and the player who normally lines up as flanker are both aligned on the line of scrimmage split away from the end man on the line of scrimmage. This formation was used by the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl IV against the Minnesota Vikings so as to create confusion in the Minnesota defense's lining up against the Chiefs offense.
    The I formation, in any variant, can also be modified as Strong or Weak. This formation is commonly called an Offset I. In either case, the fullback lines up roughly a yard laterally to his usual position. Strong refers to a move towards the TE side of the formation (Primary TE, or flanker's side when in a "big" 2TE set), weak in the opposite direction. These modifications have little effect on expected play call. However, the Offset I allows a fullback to more easily avoid blockers and get out of the backfield to become a receiver.

    In professional football[edit]
    In the NFL, the I formation is less frequently used than in college, as the use of the fullback as a blocker has given way to formations with additional tight ends and wide receivers, who may be called on to block during running plays. The increasingly common ace formation replaces the fullback with an additional receiver, who lines up along the line of scrimmage. The I will typically be used in short-yardage and goal line situations.

    See also[edit]
    Wikimedia Commons has media related to I formation.
    American football strategy
    References[edit]
    ^ Jump up to: a b Layden, Tim. "Don Coryell 1924--2010". SI.com. Retrieved 2010-07-07.
    Jump up ^ Tom Nugent obituary, USA Today
    Jump up ^ Center, Bill. "Don Coryell, ex-Chargers, Aztecs coach dies at 85". San Diego Union-Tribune. Retrieved 2010-07-07.
    Jump up ^ The I Formation: Offensive Bread and Butter, footballoutsiders.com
    ^ Jump up to: a b Inman, Cam. "For Don Coryell, to air was divine". San Jose Mercury News. Retrieved 2010-07-07.
    Jump up ^ Tom Osborne biography, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

    This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2009)
    [hide] v t e
    American football strategy
    Offensive plays
    Air Coryell offense Air raid offense Clock management Hard count Hurry-up offense Play-action pass Pro-style offense Smashmouth offense Spread offense West Coast offense Zone blocking
    Individual plays
    Bootleg play Checkdown Counter trey Down and out Draw play End-around Halfback option play Hot Route Option run Quarterback keeper Quarterback sneak Quick kick Screen pass Spike Squib kick Sweep Swinging Gate Tackle-eligible play Triple option Zone run Trap run
    Routes
    Corner route Curl route Drag route Flat route Fly route Hitch route Out route Post route Slant route Wheel route
    Maneuvers
    Lateral pass Quarterback scramble Minnesota shift
    Trick plays
    Flea flicker Fumblerooski Hook and lateral Reverse Statue of Liberty play Swinging gate
    Defensive plays
    Dime defense Nickel defense Two-level defense Zone defense in American football
    Individual plays
    Icing the kicker Pyramid Play Zone blitz
    Offensive formations
    A formation A-11 offense Buck-lateral series Double-wing formation Flexbone formation I formation Notre Dame Box Pistol offense Pro set Pro-style offense Shotgun formation Single set back Single-wing formation Split-T Spread offense Sutherland single-wing T formation Triple option Trips formation Veer Wildcat formation Wishbone formation
    Defensive formations
    3–3–5 defense 3–4 defense 4–4 defense 46 defense 4–3 defense 5–2 defense 7–2–2 defense 7–1–2–1 defense Coverage shells Dime defense Eight-in-the-box defense Nickel defense Prevent defense
    Categories: American football formations
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    Disagree.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    The Bremerton Navy Yard Team was no joke back in the day.

    The Bremerton Navy Yard Team was full of a bunch of TUFF liberals who'd punch your face in.

    When they weren't drunk, which was almost never.