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  • Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,231 Founders Club

    Talk to Race, who specifically said it was about race.
    I said you did

    If you need to lie you must be a leftist
  • Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    Fuck off, I'm responsible for what I say. You should try living up to that standard. You quoted me when you asked your "question" and I never claimed that Trump stop all illegal immigration. So fuck off.
    This is the convenient part of having no ideology. You can say Trump didn’t stop it, they can say he did. You can complain about population growth, they can complain about Americans not having as many kids. One team, random messaging to give you all sides of an argument. But me and AOC are responsible for everything Biden does.
  • Member Posts: 5,959

    Perfect example of where the leftists are convinced they understand conservatives and MAGA but are completely delusional as they project their own thoughts and beliefs onto the other side.
    Talk to Race, who specifically said it was about race.
  • Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,231 Founders Club
    edited April 2021

    This is the convenient part of having no ideology. You can say Trump didn’t stop it, they can say he did. You can complain about population growth, they can complain about Americans not having as many kids. One team, random messaging to give you all sides of an argument. But me and AOC are responsible for everything Biden does.
    As long as you run cover for it, yes you are

    Nothing in your rants here addresses the tragedy of the idiot you voted for fucking up the border

    Whataboutism and Trump Trump Trump aren't going to cut it

    You occupy the moral low ground here. That's your ideology - open borders no matter the cost

    And I am not going to be complicit in the misery that brings

    I voted for the guy that had the solution
  • Member Posts: 5,959

    As long as you run cover for it, yes you are

    Nothing in your rants here addresses the tragedy of the idiot you voted for fucking up the border

    Whataboutism and Trump Trump Trump aren't going to cut it

    You occupy the moral low ground here. That's your ideology - open borders no matter the cost

    And I am not going to be complicit in the misery that brings

    I voted for the guy that had the solution
    Under Trump it was fine. Under Biden it’s a tragedy. When you have no ideology, it’s all about scoring politics points.



    It’s April.
  • Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,523 Founders Club
    AOC is so over-the-top hysterical here that I dare say she fully understands that she is wrong wrong wrong
  • Member Posts: 48,424 Standard Supporter

    As long as you run cover for it, yes you are

    Nothing in your rants here addresses the tragedy of the idiot you voted for fucking up the border

    Whataboutism and Trump Trump Trump aren't going to cut it

    You occupy the moral low ground here. That's your ideology - open borders no matter the cost

    And I am not going to be complicit in the misery that brings

    I voted for the guy that had the solution
    Kobe is locked into the 'no ideology' mindset again.


    Like adhering to the Constitution, laws, liberty, freedoms and that kind of thinking is just mumbo jumbo....

    The lack of ideology is systemic, you know.

  • Member Posts: 5,959

    AOC is so over-the-top hysterical here that I dare say she fully understands that she is wrong wrong wrong

    Jesus. You going to ask if she’s on her period next?
  • Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,231 Founders Club

    Under Trump it was fine. Under Biden it’s a tragedy. When you have no ideology, it’s all about scoring politics points.



    It’s April.
    And Biden has fucked up the border. Empty words for a morally bankrupt vote

    Be proud
  • Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    Under Trump it was fine. Under Biden it’s a tragedy. When you have no ideology, it’s all about scoring politics points.

    Are you really that fucking stu...

    Nevermind.
  • Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    Jesus. You going to ask if she’s on her period next?

    Leading candidate for pinhead POTD.
  • Member Posts: 5,959

    And Biden has fucked up the border. Empty words for a morally bankrupt vote

    Be proud
    “We’ve been fighting our own party on immigration for a long time”
  • Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,231 Founders Club

    “We’ve been fighting our own party on immigration for a long time”
    Losers lose i guess
  • Member Posts: 8,064 Standard Supporter

    The border isn't open. Stop this lie.

    The Canadian one isn't... but Mexico you can cross with no problems now
  • Member Posts: 5,959

    Losers lose i guess

  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,233 Founders Club

    I agree with you. We simply can't allow these influxes of illegal immigrants and it's a matter of basic sovereignty. I also don't know what the "optimal" number is. We're at about 10m illegal immigrants right now, which is actually a decrease of nearly 2m of the last decade. Is 10m still too high? Does that number create a material detriment to our country? I haven't seen anything convincing that demonstrates that impact one way or another.

    But step 1 for me has always been to agree on a number, and then do everything we can to enforce that number. Ideally that can be accomplished with stricter border enforcement (yes that includes a bigger wall) which would necessitate fewer deportations (I'm generally not a fan of breaking up otherwise law-abiding families who are already here if it can be avoided). Then you have the question of how do you enforce the influx when they do cross the border. And the unaccompanied children debacle is a doozy. At a certain level Trump's no-nonsense stance was an effective deterrent, and a hell of a lot better than the incoherent policy that Biden is deploying. But I'm still a bleeding heart classical liberal and I don't like kids in cages. Or at least not our cages. Make Mexico build the damn facilities and house them there. I don't know. But it's a clusterfuck no matter how you slice it, and as long as our Central American friends remain mired in corruption and incompetence the supply issue is going to continue to be a problem.
    How do we know the 10mm figure is accurate? I've read that number could be as high as 25mm. In regard to the humanity and compassion we should have I agree with you as well. All of us would do the same to improve our own lives if we were in their shoes. Central and South America have plenty of natural resources to be competitive in a free market economy but corrupt and oppressive governments stand in the way.
  • Member Posts: 17,825 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    How do we know the 10mm figure is accurate? I've read that number could be as high as 25mm. In regard to the humanity and compassion we should have I agree with you as well. All of us would do the same to improve our own lives if we were in their shoes. Central and South America have plenty of natural resources to be competitive in a free market economy but corrupt and oppressive governments stand in the way.
    Easy solution. Turn the US into an oppressive and corrupt government. Then we would be competitive with Guatemala with no reason to immigrate to the US.
  • Member Posts: 8,344

    Jesus. You going to ask if she’s on her period next?
    Nn, we assume you are
  • Member Posts: 8,344

    “We’ve been fighting our own party on immigration for a long time”
    Obama and Biden deported more people than Trump. HTH.
  • Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    RoadTrip said:

    How do we know the 10mm figure is accurate? I've read that number could be as high as 25mm. In regard to the humanity and compassion we should have I agree with you as well. All of us would do the same to improve our own lives if we were in their shoes. Central and South America have plenty of natural resources to be competitive in a free market economy but corrupt and oppressive governments stand in the way.
    All the result of US Imperialism and White Supremacy, says AOC.
  • Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    Easy solution. Turn the US into an oppressive and corrupt government. Then we would be competitive with Guatemala with no reason to immigrate to the US.
    Didn't 81 million people just vote for that?

    What are CRT and Equity but total corrupting forces that undermine competence and meritocracy?
  • Member Posts: 38,515 Standard Supporter
    hardhat said:

    Obama and Biden deported more people than Trump. HTH.
    No they wrote them tickets and let them walk into the country. Big difference.
  • Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,843 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited April 2021
    Thread tl:dr

    blame the Kennedys, especially the one that can't drive

    Edit: she isn't popping off, she is spouting off shit
  • Member Posts: 2,524
    And he got so much bipartisan support for his "wall thing." I'm thinking that the wall could have actually worked if it was funded. I am old enough to remember when we were arguing about some cost less than 10 billion. Pocket change now.

    Trump used emergency measures with Covid to empty them. But border apprehensions went up in each of Trump’s last 8 months to reach levels higher than Obama ever had (for the second time).

    His policy and wall wasn’t working. The short term Covid solution only served to give you a talking point.

    Trump “emptied” them after filling them.



    And he’d be filling them again now, as his final 8 months in office shows, if he hadn’t lost. His border policy wasn’t stopping people, Covid did.

    AOC is talking about real long term solution, not temporarily emptying cages to score political points. You may loathe the idea of letting in even one migrant but you can either debate the issue or post the picture of her at the border for the 100th time.

  • Member Posts: 5,959
    He had two years to do the wall, couldn’t be bothered.
  • Member Posts: 33,187

    He had two years to do the wall, couldn’t be bothered.

    Liar or moron? Take your pick.
  • Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,231 Founders Club

    He had two years to do the wall, couldn’t be bothered.

    Pathetic
  • Member Posts: 27,674

    This is the convenient part of having no ideology. You can say Trump didn’t stop it, they can say he did. You can complain about population growth, they can complain about Americans not having as many kids. One team, random messaging to give you all sides of an argument. But me and AOC are responsible for everything Biden does.
    Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism. At least it's an ethos.
  • Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    Liar or moron? Take your pick.
    Trump? Abundance.

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