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Dirk: Not a selfish asshole
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He's also 36. Why did he take a max on his last contract though? So he was a selfish asshole but now he's not?
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They probably won the title during his last contract. Do you really think guys like Anthony and Kobe Bryant would do that In their mid thirties? I'm pretty sure Kobe has been collecting paychecks for about a year now. I don't know if he has max contract as NOGAFANBA except you but do you really think he'd accept less than half of his previous salary?
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Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
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You seem to give a fuck right now making this thread.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:They probably won the title during his last contract. Do you really think guys like Anthony and Kobe Bryant would do that In their mid thirties? I'm pretty sure Kobe has been collecting paychecks for about a year now. I don't know if he has max contract as NOGAFANBA except you but do you really think he'd accept less than half of his previous salary?
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Allsuckingkobesdickallbryant.
It's getting to be like revenge of the nerds in here. -
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing. -
hrykRoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
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Go Mavs!
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Oh yeah, the issue is no free agents seem to want to go to Dallas (no idea why?), so even with him taking less to help the team, I doubt it will.
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I've liked Dirk since the mid 2000s. Do I give a fuck about any NBA game pre March 25th? Almost never.CuntWaffle said:
You seem to give a fuck right now making this thread.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:They probably won the title during his last contract. Do you really think guys like Anthony and Kobe Bryant would do that In their mid thirties? I'm pretty sure Kobe has been collecting paychecks for about a year now. I don't know if he has max contract as NOGAFANBA except you but do you really think he'd accept less than half of his previous salary?
It's nice to see athletes stay on the same team for their career and sacrifice a little. It's a rarity now. -
Dirk's a gritty, team first kind of guy with a high basketball IQ. Not sure exaclty what it is, but he just seems different than most of the thuggish, athletic types that populate the league.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I've liked Dirk since the mid 2000s. Do I give a fuck about any NBA game pre March 25th? Almost never.CuntWaffle said:
You seem to give a fuck right now making this thread.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:They probably won the title during his last contract. Do you really think guys like Anthony and Kobe Bryant would do that In their mid thirties? I'm pretty sure Kobe has been collecting paychecks for about a year now. I don't know if he has max contract as NOGAFANBA except you but do you really think he'd accept less than half of his previous salary?
It's nice to see athletes stay on the same team for their career and sacrifice a little. It's a rarity now. -
Nobody else would have given him that kind of money, yes. But if Kobe had demanded his max the Lakers would have given it to him. He took less money. You can spin it however you want but that's a fact.RoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
And I am not a math whizz but if Dirk could have gotten 15 per that's a $15 million discount. Or, you know, less than what Kobe left on the table. -
Yeah, I don't get it. An owner that'll spend whatever it takes. A great coach. Texas has no state tax right? I would think they'd be very attractive but it never seems like the big name guys are that interested.Swaye said:Oh yeah, the issue is no free agents seem to want to go to Dallas (no idea why?), so even with him taking less to help the team, I doubt it will.
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And while I know Dallas is no New York or LA, it is a major media center, has tons going on, really cheap cost of living, great owner, etc. And yes, no state tax. You would think people would want to play there...allpurpleallgold said:
Yeah, I don't get it. An owner that'll spend whatever it takes. A great coach. Texas has no state tax right? I would think they'd be very attractive but it never seems like the big name guys are that interested.Swaye said:Oh yeah, the issue is no free agents seem to want to go to Dallas (no idea why?), so even with him taking less to help the team, I doubt it will.
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I doubt the Lakers would have given him 32 million a year. And yes, Dirk could have gotten 2 yr 30 million from somebody. To say he's sacrificing so much is bullshit though. The Mavericks will be overpaying Dirk for appearances the rest of his life. What he's not making the next few eyes he probably makes in the long term after retiring.allpurpleallgold said:
Nobody else would have given him that kind of money, yes. But if Kobe had demanded his max the Lakers would have given it to him. He took less money. You can spin it however you want but that's a fact.RoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
And I am not a math whizz but if Dirk could have gotten 15 per that's a $15 million discount. Or, you know, less than what Kobe left on the table. -
Mavs just traded for Tyson Chandler. I don't know enough about basketball to know if it was a good deal or not, but Go Mavs!
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Well they gave him 25 million. That's a lot fucking closer to 32 than 10. The thing that some of you don't realize in that these teams are a business. There is one thing that would be worse than not paying Kobe Bryant 32 million for the Lakers and that's not paying him at all.RoadDawg55 said:
I doubt the Lakers would have given him 32 million a year. And yes, Dirk could have gotten 2 yr 30 million from somebody. To say he's sacrificing so much is bullshit though. The Mavericks will be overpaying Dirk for appearances the rest of his life. What he's not making the next few eyes he probably makes in the long term after retiring.allpurpleallgold said:
Nobody else would have given him that kind of money, yes. But if Kobe had demanded his max the Lakers would have given it to him. He took less money. You can spin it however you want but that's a fact.RoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
And I am not a math whizz but if Dirk could have gotten 15 per that's a $15 million discount. Or, you know, less than what Kobe left on the table.
These players are worth more than what they do on the court. Kobe generates revenue. Kobe is the single biggest reason that franchise would sell for more than 2 billion. Kobe is the single biggest reason they make 100 million a year. Yes, Kobe will be over paid for what he does on the court now. But he has spent his entire career being underpaid for the revenue he creates and he will be underpaid for that next year as well.
It's easy to sit here and say "well I wouldn't pay Kobe that much". But what you're really saying is that your fucking clueless when it comes to running a business. -
Really FS post. Everyone understands it's a business and it's common knowledge that star players are underpaid in terms of the value they generate. Old news. And no, the Lakers would not have to give Kobe 32 million if he demanded, just like the Yankees don't pay Derek Jeter 30 million anymore. Giving him 24 per after an Achilles tear at 35 years old was nice enough and was recognized as being a sweet deal for Kobe from the day it was signed.allpurpleallgold said:
Well they gave him 25 million. That's a lot fucking closer to 32 than 10. The thing that some of you don't realize in that these teams are a business. There is one thing that would be worse than not paying Kobe Bryant 32 million for the Lakers and that's not paying him at all.RoadDawg55 said:
I doubt the Lakers would have given him 32 million a year. And yes, Dirk could have gotten 2 yr 30 million from somebody. To say he's sacrificing so much is bullshit though. The Mavericks will be overpaying Dirk for appearances the rest of his life. What he's not making the next few eyes he probably makes in the long term after retiring.allpurpleallgold said:
Nobody else would have given him that kind of money, yes. But if Kobe had demanded his max the Lakers would have given it to him. He took less money. You can spin it however you want but that's a fact.RoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
And I am not a math whizz but if Dirk could have gotten 15 per that's a $15 million discount. Or, you know, less than what Kobe left on the table.
These players are worth more than what they do on the court. Kobe generates revenue. Kobe is the single biggest reason that franchise would sell for more than 2 billion. Kobe is the single biggest reason they make 100 million a year. Yes, Kobe will be over paid for what he does on the court now. But he has spent his entire career being underpaid for the revenue he creates and he will be underpaid for that next year as well.
It's easy to sit here and say "well I wouldn't pay Kobe that much". But what you're really saying is that your fucking clueless when it comes to running a business.
Your second paragraph is some of the dumbest shit spewed on this board in awhile. Kobe Bryant is why they would sell for over 2 billion? Yeah, and Derek Jeter is the reason the Yankees are the most valuable baseball team. Are you fucking kidding me? You're not this fucking stupid are you? How about being arguably the most storied franchise in the NBA and being the #1 team in LA is the biggest reason. Kobe Bryant is not the biggest reason they make 100 million. They have their own TV channel down here in LA. They have the best TV deal in the league. That's the biggest reason. I had a nice laugh at the bolded part after reading your post. -
So you're saying that the owners unfairly enforce wage penalties against the players in a manner that will result in another lockout in a few years? I happen to agree, fuck the owners.RoadDawg55 said:
Really FS post. Everyone understands it's a business and it's common knowledge that star players are underpaid in terms of the value they generate. Old news. And no, the Lakers would not have to give Kobe 32 million if he demanded, just like the Yankees don't pay Derek Jeter 30 million anymore. Giving him 24 per after an Achilles tear at 35 years old was nice enough and was recognized as being a sweet deal for Kobe from the day it was signed.allpurpleallgold said:
Well they gave him 25 million. That's a lot fucking closer to 32 than 10. The thing that some of you don't realize in that these teams are a business. There is one thing that would be worse than not paying Kobe Bryant 32 million for the Lakers and that's not paying him at all.RoadDawg55 said:
I doubt the Lakers would have given him 32 million a year. And yes, Dirk could have gotten 2 yr 30 million from somebody. To say he's sacrificing so much is bullshit though. The Mavericks will be overpaying Dirk for appearances the rest of his life. What he's not making the next few eyes he probably makes in the long term after retiring.allpurpleallgold said:
Nobody else would have given him that kind of money, yes. But if Kobe had demanded his max the Lakers would have given it to him. He took less money. You can spin it however you want but that's a fact.RoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
And I am not a math whizz but if Dirk could have gotten 15 per that's a $15 million discount. Or, you know, less than what Kobe left on the table.
These players are worth more than what they do on the court. Kobe generates revenue. Kobe is the single biggest reason that franchise would sell for more than 2 billion. Kobe is the single biggest reason they make 100 million a year. Yes, Kobe will be over paid for what he does on the court now. But he has spent his entire career being underpaid for the revenue he creates and he will be underpaid for that next year as well.
It's easy to sit here and say "well I wouldn't pay Kobe that much". But what you're really saying is that your fucking clueless when it comes to running a business.
Your second paragraph is some of the dumbest shit spewed on this board in awhile. Kobe Bryant is why they would sell for over 2 billion? Yeah, and Derek Jeter is the reason the Yankees are the most valuable baseball team. Are you fucking kidding me? You're not this fucking stupid are you? How about being arguably the most storied franchise in the NBA and being the #1 team in LA is the biggest reason. Kobe Bryant is not the biggest reason they make 100 million. They have their own TV channel down here in LA. They have the best TV deal in the league. That's the biggest reason. I had a nice laugh at the bolded part after reading your post. -
RoadDawg has gotten more aggresive in the past 6 months. I like that.
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You should google the Lakers ratings last season without Kobe. You might find it helpful.RoadDawg55 said:
Really FS post. Everyone understands it's a business and it's common knowledge that star players are underpaid in terms of the value they generate. Old news. And no, the Lakers would not have to give Kobe 32 million if he demanded, just like the Yankees don't pay Derek Jeter 30 million anymore. Giving him 24 per after an Achilles tear at 35 years old was nice enough and was recognized as being a sweet deal for Kobe from the day it was signed.allpurpleallgold said:
Well they gave him 25 million. That's a lot fucking closer to 32 than 10. The thing that some of you don't realize in that these teams are a business. There is one thing that would be worse than not paying Kobe Bryant 32 million for the Lakers and that's not paying him at all.RoadDawg55 said:
I doubt the Lakers would have given him 32 million a year. And yes, Dirk could have gotten 2 yr 30 million from somebody. To say he's sacrificing so much is bullshit though. The Mavericks will be overpaying Dirk for appearances the rest of his life. What he's not making the next few eyes he probably makes in the long term after retiring.allpurpleallgold said:
Nobody else would have given him that kind of money, yes. But if Kobe had demanded his max the Lakers would have given it to him. He took less money. You can spin it however you want but that's a fact.RoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
And I am not a math whizz but if Dirk could have gotten 15 per that's a $15 million discount. Or, you know, less than what Kobe left on the table.
These players are worth more than what they do on the court. Kobe generates revenue. Kobe is the single biggest reason that franchise would sell for more than 2 billion. Kobe is the single biggest reason they make 100 million a year. Yes, Kobe will be over paid for what he does on the court now. But he has spent his entire career being underpaid for the revenue he creates and he will be underpaid for that next year as well.
It's easy to sit here and say "well I wouldn't pay Kobe that much". But what you're really saying is that your fucking clueless when it comes to running a business.
Your second paragraph is some of the dumbest shit spewed on this board in awhile. Kobe Bryant is why they would sell for over 2 billion? Yeah, and Derek Jeter is the reason the Yankees are the most valuable baseball team. Are you fucking kidding me? You're not this fucking stupid are you? How about being arguably the most storied franchise in the NBA and being the #1 team in LA is the biggest reason. Kobe Bryant is not the biggest reason they make 100 million. They have their own TV channel down here in LA. They have the best TV deal in the league. That's the biggest reason. I had a nice laugh at the bolded part after reading your post. -
allpurpleallgold said:
Well they gave him 25 million. That's a lot fucking closer to 32 than 10. The thing that some of you don't realize in that these teams are a business. There is one thing that would be worse than not paying Kobe Bryant 32 million for the Lakers and that's not paying him at all.RoadDawg55 said:
I doubt the Lakers would have given him 32 million a year. And yes, Dirk could have gotten 2 yr 30 million from somebody. To say he's sacrificing so much is bullshit though. The Mavericks will be overpaying Dirk for appearances the rest of his life. What he's not making the next few eyes he probably makes in the long term after retiring.allpurpleallgold said:
Nobody else would have given him that kind of money, yes. But if Kobe had demanded his max the Lakers would have given it to him. He took less money. You can spin it however you want but that's a fact.RoadDawg55 said:
Getting 48 million from the Lakers was a sweet deal for Kobe. Nobody else would have given him that sort of money. He left 16 million because he had to. Not because he chose to.allpurpleallgold said:Kobe's new contract is 16 million less than it could have been. That's a bit of a hair cut, no?
Dirk could have gotten $12-15 million from a team if he was willing.
And I am not a math whizz but if Dirk could have gotten 15 per that's a $15 million discount. Or, you know, less than what Kobe left on the table.
These players are worth more than what they do on the court. Kobe generates revenue. Kobe is the single biggest reason that franchise would sell for more than 2 billion. Kobe is the single biggest reason they make 100 million a year. Yes, Kobe will be over paid for what he does on the court now. But he has spent his entire career being underpaid for the revenue he creates and he will be underpaid for that next year as well.
It's easy to sit here and say "well I wouldn't pay Kobe that much". But what you're really saying is that your fucking clueless when it comes to running a business.
It's a good business decision if you don't care about winning and are willing to hamstring yourself on the cap. I for one hope the Lakers dig the hole even deeper and sign Carmelonoma.
