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Asa "Mercer" Turner (the Trevor Lawrence of WC DBs), 4* 2019 S, Carlsbad (HS), CA (Committed)

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    NEsnake12 said:

    Baseman said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Everyone on the defense has to tackle, especially in the 2-4-5. Good running teams -- Stanford-- have bullied UW in the Pete era, except for '16 when Azeem was healthy.

    I hate Taylor Rapp but he excelled in run support.

    There's a difference between recruiting and bullying a kid to sign. Jimmy shamed Turner into signing. Turner admitted when Jimmy told him to "man up" he finally signed.

    Jimmy Clifford told me he ran stairs more than he practiced because everyday in practice the defense would knock the shit out of the offense. Punches were thrown.

    Outside of Eddie, Washington's defense is Charmin soft.
    Disagree with the last sentence... McDuffie wants the smoke
    Gordon too.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2021

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    Everything counts. Guys pussyfooting against the run and turning what should have been stops into win plays for the offense nullify his contention that the run doesn't hurt you as much. That only holds true if you tackle and make the plays that the defensive calls made possible. Once your safety misses and you have an RB in the open with the ball in his hands, you're just as fucked as if they had completed a pass, oftentimes more so.

    I dont care if Turner is the best safety in the nation in pass coverage. If he can't make tackles he needs to make he is a liability.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    EVERYTHING MATTERS
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Everyone on the defense has to tackle, especially in the 2-4-5. Good running teams -- Stanford-- have bullied UW in the Pete era, except for '16 when Azeem was healthy.

    I hate Taylor Rapp but he excelled in run support.

    There's a difference between recruiting and bullying a kid to sign. Jimmy shamed Turner into signing. Turner admitted when Jimmy told him to "man up" he finally signed.

    Jimmy Clifford told me he ran stairs more than he practiced because everyday in practice the defense would knock the shit out of the offense. Punches were thrown.

    Outside of Eddie, Washington's defense is Charmin soft.
    It’s a strange thing because it shouldn’t matter once they are here, but guys that are hard to sign or waffle normally do seem to suck.
    Kentrell Love
    Asa Turner
    Kaho
    Weddington (he was ok, but nothing great)
    Ty Jones

    Hopefully this doesn't hold true for Jacob Covington
    OTOH, Byron Murphy.
    Marlon tuipolotu
    Toot toot
    Cyler miles
    Puka nacua

    You could dig up people on both sides of the story. Just like any recruit. Most will not be a good starter level player.


    Yes exactly most recruits won’t live up to our expectations for whatever reason. Just depends what narrative people want to push.

    Could create the opposite narrative- kids who commit early and don’t waver aren’t competitive enough!!!!!!

    -Lindquist, Sirmon, Osborne, Spiker, Lowe, Ngata, McKinney, Wellington, Myles Rice, Wattenberg, etc.

    The narratives are bullshit.

    Coaches do all kinds of embarrassing shit to hold onto or sell recruits. You guys just happen to know what happened with Asa because his camp was a leaky sieve and he had the spotlight on him after the early signing period.

  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    ZTF is soft? Ok.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,834 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Everyone on the defense has to tackle, especially in the 2-4-5. Good running teams -- Stanford-- have bullied UW in the Pete era, except for '16 when Azeem was healthy.

    I hate Taylor Rapp but he excelled in run support.

    There's a difference between recruiting and bullying a kid to sign. Jimmy shamed Turner into signing. Turner admitted when Jimmy told him to "man up" he finally signed.

    Jimmy Clifford told me he ran stairs more than he practiced because everyday in practice the defense would knock the shit out of the offense. Punches were thrown.

    Outside of Eddie, Washington's defense is Charmin soft.
    It’s a strange thing because it shouldn’t matter once they are here, but guys that are hard to sign or waffle normally do seem to suck.
    Kentrell Love
    Asa Turner
    Kaho
    Weddington (he was ok, but nothing great)
    Ty Jones

    Hopefully this doesn't hold true for Jacob Covington
    OTOH, Byron Murphy.
    Marlon tuipolotu
    Toot toot
    Cyler miles
    Puka nacua

    You could dig up people on both sides of the story. Just like any recruit. Most will not be a good starter level player.


    Yes exactly most recruits won’t live up to our expectations for whatever reason. Just depends what narrative people want to push.

    Could create the opposite narrative- kids who commit early and don’t waver aren’t competitive enough!!!!!!

    -Lindquist, Sirmon, Osborne, Spiker, Lowe, Ngata, McKinney, Wellington, Myles Rice, Wattenberg, etc.

    The narratives are bullshit.

    Coaches do all kinds of embarrassing shit to hold onto or sell recruits. You guys just happen to know what happened with Asa because his camp was a leaky sieve and he had the spotlight on him after the early signing period.

    Wasn't Browning the guy that was afraid of underwear competition or was that another recruit?

    Lots of narratives. Agreed
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not. You guys are getting caught up in aesthetics of his game. I was being hyperbolic. He was an average player last year with very good tools. I think it’s silly to write him off already.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508

    If Turner was a 2 star FudgePack wouldn't say he's good. He's not. All you had to do was watch the games. You see him mis one tackle and focus on him and each play seems worse.

    Fudgie is from the SubK school of talent evaluation. Trash players who are actual contributors and makE excuses for players who clearly suck or have shown nothing because of his opinions on them as high school recruits.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?

    Asa = Keith Taylor at a safety position
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2021
    FireCohen said:

    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?

    Asa = Keith Taylor at a safety position
    Your comments about Taylor just keep getting dumber. See if you can set a record!
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    Turner camping out in the end zone on that play made me sick. We really need better safety play next year
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    FireCohen said:

    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?

    Asa = Keith Taylor at a safety position
    Awful take. Are you trying to be cute or are you really that ignorant?

    Go watch the games he played corner on Youtube and say he's a pussy in run support He was one UW's better corner force CB's on wide runs that ever played there.



  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Baseman said:

    FireCohen said:

    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?

    Asa = Keith Taylor at a safety position
    Awful take. Are you trying to be cute or are you really that ignorant?

    Go watch the games he played corner on Youtube and say he's a pussy in run support He was one UW's better corner force CB's on wide runs that ever played there.



    All I remember of Taylor missing some key tackles when it mattered
  • coach_pete_JPG
    coach_pete_JPG Member Posts: 1,218
    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?



  • Jdawg1991
    Jdawg1991 Member Posts: 148
    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?

    So, let's assume you're actually a Husky fan. Do you think the next player we go head to head with Notre Dame will pick UW when they see posts like this? I hope Turner doesn't see this. I hope Jen gets the place shut down soon.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    FireCohen said:

    Baseman said:

    FireCohen said:

    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?

    Asa = Keith Taylor at a safety position
    Awful take. Are you trying to be cute or are you really that ignorant?

    Go watch the games he played corner on Youtube and say he's a pussy in run support He was one UW's better corner force CB's on wide runs that ever played there.



    All I remember of Taylor missing some key tackles when it mattered
    Well, since you admittedly, barely remember anything, a wiser man would choose not to throw out shit takes like that. Especially when it's doubtful that you remember what you say you remember
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,708 Founders Club
    Jdawg1991 said:

    Baseman said:

    Getting mad about a guy who played the majority of his snaps as single high safety impact in the run game is funny. Especially since we sit our S like 20+ yards off the LOS.

    Here's a few of my favs

    Single high-safety: LOL

    Pass completed. Molden wraps up. A real defensive player lives for opportunities to take somebody's fucking head off when their teammate has the opponent wrapped up.

    Whoops!

    In that play there was a man and a pussy. 1st and goal Stanford.

    5'10 Elijah Molden, low, leads with his shoulder. Eddie correctly ran through and took on the tackle....which leaves someone for the cleanup.


    Molden engages, Turner doesn't


    When UW has savages on the field they rape Stanford. When UW plays pussies, Stanford makes them their bitch.

    Are we done here?

    I hope Jen gets the place shut down soon.
    That would be hilarious given that UW college basketball news is trashing her daily, and far worse than this place ever could.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Bread said:


    Another update from Loy:

    Just touched base with a source.

    Turner still considering both options, nothing has been determined behind closed doors yet, but he has told both staffs that he wants to have a decision done by today.

    So, essentially nothing new, but that's the latest around 5:45 pm.

    Fuck Turner. Talent matters but he’s a pussy. Taylor Rapp, Tommie Smith. Tony Parrish et. All he’s not.

    Pull the offer and double down on McCoy, Ford, Martinez, Hemuli, To’oto’o in January. I’d rather have the extra scholarship than some fag who can’t make up his mind, the kind of fag that hesitates on a bang bang play and costs us? a game.
    Fuck off all of you who disagreed. He's a pussy!
    Gotta admit I gave you a lot of shit and right now you’re looking pretty good. I still hope he figures it out but my confidence is lacking.
    Bullies offering apologies?
    Sad to see how far @dnc has fallen.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    Baseman said:

    Bread said:


    Another update from Loy:

    Just touched base with a source.

    Turner still considering both options, nothing has been determined behind closed doors yet, but he has told both staffs that he wants to have a decision done by today.

    So, essentially nothing new, but that's the latest around 5:45 pm.

    Fuck Turner. Talent matters but he’s a pussy. Taylor Rapp, Tommie Smith. Tony Parrish et. All he’s not.

    Pull the offer and double down on McCoy, Ford, Martinez, Hemuli, To’oto’o in January. I’d rather have the extra scholarship than some fag who can’t make up his mind, the kind of fag that hesitates on a bang bang play and costs us? a game.
    Fuck off all of you who disagreed. He's a pussy!
    Gotta admit I gave you a lot of shit and right now you’re looking pretty good. I still hope he figures it out but my confidence is lacking.
    Bullies offering apologies?
    Nega please
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    If Turner was a 2 star FudgePack wouldn't say he's good. He's not. All you had to do was watch the games. You see him mis one tackle and focus on him and each play seems worse.

    No I would say what I’ve said, he’s an average player with some nice tools. I never said he was an AA or all-conference roadie. I just hope he puts it all together. It’s almost like our DBs improve a lot from year to year! He was asked to basically cover Manu’s and Welly’s ass last year as a 6”4 180 LB true freshmen.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    If Turner was a 2 star FudgePack wouldn't say he's good. He's not. All you had to do was watch the games. You see him mis one tackle and focus on him and each play seems worse.

    Fudgie is from the SubK school of talent evaluation. Trash players who are actual contributors and makE excuses for players who clearly suck or have shown nothing because of his opinions on them as high school recruits.
    Wrong. There’s plenty of lower rated guys that I suck the dicks of like Curne, Eddie, ZTF, Azeem etc.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    He’ll be good this year even if he’s a pussy (good in coverage, run game NOGAF it can’t hurt you like the pass game can). Least of my worries.

    Taking the stance that "having a safety who's useless in the run game doesn't hurt you" is a pretty ice cold take given that the last game we played featured us getting gashed by a squad of shitty nerds for that very reason.
    You don’t have to be a big hitter to be effective in the run game, get your fits and make the tackle. He did it more times than not.
    Caught more than he dropped POTD.