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  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    whlinder said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Mrs. Throbber's hobby is playing the credit card game. It's fucking unreal. There's like this cult following of how to scam the credit card companies for cash and airline points.

    Opens a card with X company, gets the promised cash, let's the card sit open for the prerequisite time and then closes it. Keeps the cash.

    Knows which cards give the most points for restaurants - so she uses Card A; some cards give more points for groceries - Card B. It's crazy.

    We haven't paid for a hotel room in probably 3 years. Almost always fly first class because, well, shit, we didn't pay for the tickets in the first place.

    So, basically what I said to do. She is a good churner, it's called churning. No need to close the accounts though, just keep them at a zero balance.
    I've played that game too; it can be worth it but you need someone like Mrs. Throbber to keep close tabs on the cards. Back in the day would run massive business expenses for my mom's company through my card while living in her basement and rack up 100K in expenses (and therefore points plus bonuses) without blinking.

    I don't play it much anymore since the benefits have been cut and the hoops to jump through are more complicated. Just go ahead and use my Fidelity 2% cash back on everything card and not worry about all the other shizz.
    I'm watching porn on my laptop every night - she's over there gaming the system on her laptop. Or at least that's what she says she'd doing.

    @Doog_de_Jour - is Mrs. Throbber v2.0 watching porn too?!?

    NTTAWWT

    How else do you think she entertains herself between my visits? 😉
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,327 Standard Supporter

    Mrs. Throbber's hobby is playing the credit card game. It's fucking unreal. There's like this cult following of how to scam the credit card companies for cash and airline points.

    Opens a card with X company, gets the promised cash, let's the card sit open for the prerequisite time and then closes it. Keeps the cash.

    Knows which cards give the most points for restaurants - so she uses Card A; some cards give more points for groceries - Card B. It's crazy.

    We haven't paid for a hotel room in probably 3 years. Almost always fly first class because, well, shit, we didn't pay for the tickets in the first place.

    Speaking as someone who has kept the same card for 20+ years, how do you get away with that? I keep wondering if switching to something with better perks would be a good move, but I’m lazy.
    I have never found a card with a better rate than mine, so I've never given a thought to switching. That the card is through the credit union I bank with anyway, that's also a bonus.
    The general "pro" advice is probably that the rate shouldn't really matter if you're paying the balance each month, so go with the one that has the best perks. Of course, if there is economic doom it's always good to have a low-rate card, too, to get thru the tuff tims.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Mrs. Throbber's hobby is playing the credit card game. It's fucking unreal. There's like this cult following of how to scam the credit card companies for cash and airline points.

    Opens a card with X company, gets the promised cash, let's the card sit open for the prerequisite time and then closes it. Keeps the cash.

    Knows which cards give the most points for restaurants - so she uses Card A; some cards give more points for groceries - Card B. It's crazy.

    We haven't paid for a hotel room in probably 3 years. Almost always fly first class because, well, shit, we didn't pay for the tickets in the first place.

    Speaking as someone who has kept the same card for 20+ years, how do you get away with that? I keep wondering if switching to something with better perks would be a good move, but I’m lazy.
    I have never found a card with a better rate than mine, so I've never given a thought to switching. That the card is through the credit union I bank with anyway, that's also a bonus.
    The general "pro" advice is probably that the rate shouldn't really matter if you're paying the balance each month, so go with the one that has the best perks. Of course, if there is economic doom it's always good to have a low-rate card, too, to get thru the tuff tims.
    What is this sorcery!?

    Due to some combination of bad luck and inexperience/idiocy, a majority of my adult life has been "tuff tims." I bought a house I could barely afford in early 2008 (because, like now, that was the only option at the time) that immediately fell apart to the tune of low six-figures in repairs and desperately needed updates, got married, went on a honeymoon, and had two kids all in under five years. Let's just say my credit card's interest rate was a very good friend of mine then and for many years after while I climbed out from under it.

    Only to, in 2015, right as I was finally ready to start building savings, have my shop burn down with the vast majority of my possessions inside (in retrospect, I wish it would have taken the house with it...). If you're going to go into debt building a shop, it might as well be the one you really want, so that low card rate came in handy again for several years of construction.

    It is what it is. The reason interest exists is because money now is more valuable than money later. Having savings and paying cash would have been preferred, but I don't have a time machine to go back and make that happen while I still had a chance. Hell, looking at the cost of building materials and subs nowadays, I SAVED money paying credit card (and HELOC) interest during my shop construction. And, once again, I've already paid it all down. Just in time for more huge and expensive house repairs commencing this summer...

    Debt-free in 2033!...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,238 Founders Club
    I graduated high school in 74 just in time for 25 cent gas for my 4 barrel Chevy Nova to DOUBLE to 50 cents then close to 70!!!!!

    And then it got really bad

    Kids today. We had to walk to school in a misery index (look it up) over 20 both ways. Oil embargoes, mid east wars, Afghanistan 1 - the Rambo Years, Carter, Reagan, inflation, high interest rates and on and on

    All to get me to close to retirement in 2008 (I didn't want to retire but still) and now 10 years later here we go again with a pandemic and looming economic collapse. Thankfully I got debt free in the three year window of 2016-2019

    I think it goes with being an American. And it would be worse most other places
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    I graduated high school in 74 just in time for 25 cent gas for my 4 barrel Chevy Nova to DOUBLE to 50 cents then close to 70!!!!!

    And then it got really bad

    Kids today. We had to walk to school in a misery index (look it up) over 20 both ways. Oil embargoes, mid east wars, Afghanistan 1 - the Rambo Years, Carter, Reagan, inflation, high interest rates and on and on

    All to get me to close to retirement in 2008 (I didn't want to retire but still) and now 10 years later here we go again with a pandemic and looming economic collapse. Thankfully I got debt free in the three year window of 2016-2019

    I think it goes with being an American. And it would be worse most other places


    It took you over 20 centuries to graduate from high school?


    The Shelton Highclimbers won the state AA football championship in 1974. I was there drinking Ovaltine in the stands every Friday night home game.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,701 Standard Supporter
    I'm definitely not an expert, but if your credit score is decent, you can get something for way under 27 ser pent, unless it's your first one.

    Go through a credit union or small to medium sized bank. Avoid WF, Chase, and BOA. All lying, TBTF snakes.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    HuskyJW said:

    You should only have a credit card if you have $200K in the bank. Live like a pauper for 80% of your life so you can enjoy the last 20

    Disagree. You should only have a credit card if you will never miss a payment ever. Credit cards provide rewards, added security for certain transactions, and other perks. Unless you are getting a cash discount you are better off using a credit card for your purchases.

    Truth. Anyone using a debit card for online purchases is axing for the reverse conical grater.