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Rand Paul Confronts Biden's Transgender Health Nominee About "Genital Mutilation"

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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,845 Founders Club
    edited February 2021
    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    This is about not elevating mental illness to a protected class status.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited February 2021

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    Are you a trans faggot? Seems like you know a lot about it since you’re promoting the “findings” of a group known for pedophilia.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Yes, if you're a mentally ill adult and you want to cut your own junk off have at it, but you sure as fuck don't get to do it on my dime which is what the bill the House just passed would allow for.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    thechatch said:

    SFGbob said:

    How the fuck did we ever get to this point in our society? Genital mutilation of minors is now acceptable behavior.

    Not accepted.

    Encouraged and supported.

    The correct term is "affirmed," you TransPhobe.

    You are so not woke!

    Which means you don't need intense psychiatric therapy.

    Fascist!
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Total and complete mockery of the confirmation process by the robotic nominee who spewed nothing but prepared talking points that provided absolutely no responses to any questions.

    And I'm sure all the Democratic sheep will vote for this TransClown, without hesitation.

    Because Joe Biden's America is Queer as Fuck.

    So happy we got rid of that mean orange man.

    Merrick Garland didn't have an opinion if crossing the border illegally was illegal

    Pathetic
    Merrick Garland has removed any doubt that he is completely unqualified to sit on the Supreme Court.

    I'm glad that spineless jellyfish has finally gone through a confirmation process, so the world can see how unprincipled he is.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    edited February 2021

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirming surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,735 Standard Supporter

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    So your mom's gave it to you. Explains everything!
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    It’s pretty despicable to frame hormone blockers, which have been used on kids for decades, as “genital mutilation”.

    The process for possibly trans kids to even get on hormone blockers is extraordinarily thorough. They can’t have gender affirmation surgery until they’re 18. This will have covered years of working with doctors and a therapist.

    But for anyone still pretending this is about helping the children and that we need to see the science, here you go-

    CONCLUSIONS

    Among transgender adults in the United States who have wanted pubertal suppression, access to this treatment is associated with lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation. This study strengthens recommendations by the Endocrine Society and WPATH for this treatment to be made available for transgender adolescents who want it.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

    Just like gay marriage was never about protecting the sanctity of marriage, this is not about helping kids. You just don’t like things you don’t understand.

    You have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about. "Associated with" is what liars say when they can't establish causation.

    Perhaps its time for you to STFU and stop spewing bullshit. Hormone blockers ARE NOT routinely "used on kids" the way these freaks advocate their use.

    What's more, nobody is equating hormone blockers and genital mutilation except you, Moron.

    Rand Paul was talking about removing body parts, you thick-headed mutant. That's what "amputate" means, Blockhead.
    You have to be 18 to get the surgery. So if you can’t get the surgery as a minor and you’re not taking about hormone blockers then what the fuck are you talking about.

    Give me every single example ever of minors getting sex changes.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2021

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirmation surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
    No one is claiming hormone blockers mutilate people but please continue, that strawman isn't going to rape his own ass.

    And supporting giving kids hormone blockers from the same crowd who freaks out when there are hormones in cow's milk is a nice touch. These are the very same people who freaked out when Trump suggested that adults take HCQ despite the fact that it had been prescribed for over 50 years. But now they want to give kids hormone blockers when there is very little if any long term research on their possible negative effects.

    Normal people don't allow perfectly healthy 12 year old's to take hormone blockers and normal people don't look like this fucking freak.


  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    I have no issue with Trans people I've seen some Trans women that are 10's here in SF if you didn't see the Adam's apple or voice, you wouldn't know. However with that, I do not believe they should be in women's sports as it is an unfair advantage and under 16, I'd say no hormones after 16 hormones with parental concent only.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,786 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited February 2021
    Long term use of hormone blockers does cause damage - if the gender dysphoria person later stops the transition and changes their mind - which happens frequently - there is irreparable damage. There really is not a good long term study

    Also - in Oregon the age is 15 for the surgery without parental approval- and there are numerous court cases on-going.

    The science for this is again not a proven but a consensus, the head guy at Johns Hopkins a few years ago is adamant that this should be treated as mental illness. He is conservative so the liberal doctors/press have debunked anything he says. progress is what you might calll it?

    Psychiatry is a science that should not cause surgery because of feelings and social pressure. IF there was an epidemic of transgenderism you think it would appear in all humans not just certain societies. The only acceptance of transgenders is when it is force fed to the population by the government.

    Edit: if some screwed up adult wants to go through this - more power to them - but leave the kids alone

    Edit2: Johns Hopkins doctor is Paul McHugh
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,845 Founders Club

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirming surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
    Its not just hormone blockers but you know that

    When you have nothing you pull the race card

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Goduckies said:

    I have no issue with Trans people I've seen some Trans women that are 10's here in SF if you didn't see the Adam's apple or voice, you wouldn't know. However with that, I do not believe they should be in women's sports as it is an unfair advantage and under 16, I'd say no hormones after 16 hormones with parental concent only.

    Would you agree to them being used on younger kids if more studies come back showing it’s safe?

    Also, fun fact, if you use the puberty blockers before you go through puberty and then transition to a woman, you eliminate a lot of the advantages males have in sports.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,224 Standard Supporter
    Lol at excusing the idea of using hormone blockers on 10 year olds....

    “If studies show it’s safe....”

    GTFOH
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirming surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
    Do you get daily talking points via text or email?

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirming surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
    Its not just hormone blockers but you know that

    When you have nothing you pull the race card

    Technically - it's the race card then the Pettibone/too dumb to understand play.

  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Of course the left wants to help kids by letting them mutilate themselves. And then trafficking them

    Nobel Prize time

    Kids and teenagers are stupid. If an adult wants to mutilate themselves have at it. Just don't expect normal people to start dancing in the streets about it and pretending its anything more than mental illness

    Hormone blockers don’t mutilate people.

    Once upon a time, normal people didn’t marry outside of their race. Normal people didn’t marry outside of their religion. Normal people didn’t marry their own sex. It’s called progress.

    One day, normal people will go on hormone blockers. Normal people will have gender affirming surgery. And people like you will just move on to the next minority group to complain about.
    Celebrating and affirming serious mental illness is not progress. It's sadistic and sociopathic.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,664 Founders Club

    Goduckies said:

    I have no issue with Trans people I've seen some Trans women that are 10's here in SF if you didn't see the Adam's apple or voice, you wouldn't know. However with that, I do not believe they should be in women's sports as it is an unfair advantage and under 16, I'd say no hormones after 16 hormones with parental concent only.

    Would you agree to them being used on younger kids if more studies come back showing it’s safe?

    Also, fun fact, if you use the puberty blockers before you go through puberty and then transition to a woman, you eliminate a lot of the advantages males have in sports.
    Great, sounds like a great life. What could go wrong.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Goduckies said:

    I have no issue with Trans people I've seen some Trans women that are 10's here in SF if you didn't see the Adam's apple or voice, you wouldn't know. However with that, I do not believe they should be in women's sports as it is an unfair advantage and under 16, I'd say no hormones after 16 hormones with parental concent only.

    Would you agree to them being used on younger kids if more studies come back showing it’s safe?

    Also, fun fact, if you use the puberty blockers before you go through puberty and then transition to a woman, you eliminate a lot of the advantages males have in sports.
    Jesus Christ. You'd have been one loyal fucking Nazi BITD.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Goduckies said:

    I have no issue with Trans people I've seen some Trans women that are 10's here in SF if you didn't see the Adam's apple or voice, you wouldn't know. However with that, I do not believe they should be in women's sports as it is an unfair advantage and under 16, I'd say no hormones after 16 hormones with parental concent only.

    Would you agree to them being used on younger kids if more studies come back showing it’s safe?

    Also, fun fact, if you use the puberty blockers before you go through puberty and then transition to a woman, you eliminate a lot of the advantages males have in sports.

    Goduckies said:

    I have no issue with Trans people I've seen some Trans women that are 10's here in SF if you didn't see the Adam's apple or voice, you wouldn't know. However with that, I do not believe they should be in women's sports as it is an unfair advantage and under 16, I'd say no hormones after 16 hormones with parental concent only.

    Would you agree to them being used on younger kids if more studies come back showing it’s safe?

    Also, fun fact, if you use the puberty blockers before you go through puberty and then transition to a woman, you eliminate a lot of the advantages males have in sports.
    What the fuck is wrong with you? You want to pump hormones into kids before puberty? You’re for real an absolute piece of shit and I hope you never have kids, although that seems doubtful based on your posts and loneliness.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    LebamDawg said:

    Long term use of hormone blockers does cause damage - if the gender dysphoria person later stops the transition and changes their mind - which happens frequently - there is irreparable damage. There really is not a good long term study

    Also - in Oregon the age is 15 for the surgery without parental approval- and there are numerous court cases on-going.

    The science for this is again not a proven but a consensus, the head guy at Johns Hopkins a few years ago is adamant that this should be treated as mental illness. He is conservative so the liberal doctors/press have debunked anything he says. progress is what you might calll it?

    Psychiatry is a science that should not cause surgery because of feelings and social pressure. IF there was an epidemic of transgenderism you think it would appear in all humans not just certain societies. The only acceptance of transgenders is when it is force fed to the population by the government.

    Edit: if some screwed up adult wants to go through this - more power to them - but leave the kids alone

    Edit2: Johns Hopkins doctor is Paul McHugh

    The Oregon thing is so misleading. It takes years to get to the point where you can have the surgery. In Oregon you need a mental healthcare provider and a physician to sign off just to start hormones. You need consensus from four medical professionals to have the surgery YEARS later.

    15 year olds cannot walk into a doctors office with a dick and walk out with a vagina.

    Perhaps the right shouldn’t have told their kids the earth was 5000 years old, that evolution wasn’t real and that climate change was a Chinese hoax. Maybe then you’d have some scientists on your side. Instead you rely on one in a million outlier examples like the Johns Hopkins guy and you can’t prove that he’s not doing this for political reasons. In fact, Occam’s razor, it is much more likely that the rare scientist that sides with the right is doing so for political reasons than it is that the rest of the scientific community is involved in a massive Marxist conspiracy to destroy western values. But as we all know, reality has a liberal bias.