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  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275
    edited February 2021

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Just what we need.....more government

    That's the only reason you need not to have it free

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959




    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    I have not heard a good argument for not making housing free

    Agree.
  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275




    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    I have not heard a good argument for not making housing free

    Agree.
    Besides the military , which im Sure you want reduced....what other aspects of the government do you want reduced?
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,266
    edited February 2021

    HuskyJW said:

    I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.

    His name is Raphael
    “Rafael,” but I wouldn’t expect an admitted racist such as yourself to know how to spell a Latino name.
    What are you talking about? Have another drink
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,266
    edited February 2021
    Ted invited another guy to Cancun....probably just business
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited February 2021

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.

    His name is Raphael
    “Rafael,” but I wouldn’t expect an admitted racist such as yourself to know how to spell a Latino name.
    What are you talking about? Have another drink
    His first name is “Rafael,” not “Raphael.” He isn’t a Mutant Ninja Turtle, dummy.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2021

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Because it's a waste of money in most cases in the last 20 years, outside of engineering, computer science and business.

    Right now, today, college is an overpriced bribe to drag fools out of HS and into debt they'll be repaying to banks for the next 30 years for fear if they don't follow the flock, they'll be losers in the income game. And Mike Rowe lays waste to this lie with every true-life example he broadcasts or writes about. You know, facts & stuff.

    And @TheKobeStopper wants the taxpayers to foot the entire bill for this worthless fucking insanity. What a surprise.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    the only way to make it free is to have them serve in the military for 4 years. someone might have posted this earlier but I am not going to read this entire thread
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited February 2021

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Because it's a waste of money in most cases in the last 20 years, outside of engineering, computer science and business.

    Right now, today, college is an overpriced bribe to drag fools out of HS and into debt they'll be repaying to banks for the next 30 years for fear if they don't follow the flock, they'll be losers in the income game. And Mike Rowe lays waste to this lie with every true-life example he broadcasts or writes about. You know, facts & stuff.

    And @TheKobeStopper wants the taxpayers to foot the entire bill for this worthless fucking insanity. What a surprise.
    You left out medical degrees in undergrad which lead to researchers and doctors in med school. My older daughter isn’t getting $30,000/year for 4 years in Tucson to study why slavery in the past of the USA was bad but is fine today in Africa.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
    Schools shouldn’t be paid for by property taxes.

    Bernie’s plan includes trade schools.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
    Schools shouldn’t be paid for by property taxes.

    Bernie’s plan includes trade schools.
    Bernie has been paid handsomely by the DNC for bending over to his party and then asking you retards to vote for the same people who electorally raped him.

    He’d have been the 2016 candidate had he stood up to your party of Clinton and Obama.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
    Schools shouldn’t be paid for by property taxes.

    Bernie’s plan includes trade schools.
    Bernie has been paid handsomely by the DNC for bending over to his party and then asking you retards to vote for the same people who electorally raped him.

    He’d have been the 2016 candidate had he stood up to your party of Clinton and Obama.
    Bernie’s a good man.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,640 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Happy to pay for trade schools and stem type majors (including business) in arrears with proof of performance. Things that provide a net benefit to society. Not willing to pay for social theories and the other bullshit that are polluting the country and are at the genesis of the bitterness that we are seeing.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,266

    HuskyJW said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.

    His name is Raphael
    “Rafael,” but I wouldn’t expect an admitted racist such as yourself to know how to spell a Latino name.
    What are you talking about? Have another drink
    His first name is “Rafael,” not “Raphael.” He isn’t a Mutant Ninja Turtle, dummy.
    Actually it’s spelled Fled
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
    Schools shouldn’t be paid for by property taxes.

    Bernie’s plan includes trade schools.
    Bernie has been paid handsomely by the DNC for bending over to his party and then asking you retards to vote for the same people who electorally raped him.

    He’d have been the 2016 candidate had he stood up to your party of Clinton and Obama.
    Bernie’s a good man.
    Bernie fantasizes about gang raping women and his wife defrauded a university of millions while they paid their daughter hundreds of thousands for doing nothing. It speaks volumes of the kind of human being you are to support a POS like this communist.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    Sorry, he wrote that women fantasize about being gang raped. You're right; he's a swell guy. In other words, his grotesque wife was acquitted. Ask the Dazzler what that means.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
    Schools shouldn’t be paid for by property taxes.

    Bernie’s plan includes trade schools.
    They are and they will continue to be paid by property tax. Governments don’t remove taxes. They only add them.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
    Schools shouldn’t be paid for by property taxes.

    Bernie’s plan includes trade schools.
    They are and they will continue to be paid by property tax. Governments don’t remove taxes. They only add them.
    Until the people remove the governments...

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    RoadTrip said:

    Sorry, he wrote that women fantasize about being gang raped. You're right; he's a swell guy. In other words, his grotesque wife was acquitted. Ask the Dazzler what that means.
    She wasn’t acquitted, she wasn’t charged.

    And some women do. No kink shaming in the tug.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    AOC isn’t corrupt.

    She may not have been in 2016. Now she’s a Coke horror like the rest of them. Her Jones isn’t so much the $$$. It’s the power. Most of them crave both. So I guess one could give her that.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    The left wants to "progress".

    Bullshit. Standard Orewellian redefinition of terms.

    The leftists want to tear down the fundamental tenants of the democratic republic.

    Big difference between doing a little remodeling and burning classic architecture to the ground.



    Remind me which side stormed the capitol to overturn a fair democratic election?
    It’s useful idiots like you that think storming the court at the Capitol was all about the election.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Tequilla said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
    Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it now

    That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?

    There’s always nuance between none and all
    I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.
    Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...Dipshit

    So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.

    They need to open up additional access to trade schools.
    Schools shouldn’t be paid for by property taxes.

    Bernie’s plan includes trade schools.
    Bernie can’t get floor time let alone push a policy. He’s like you, a useful idiot.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Kaepsknee said:

    AOC isn’t corrupt.

    She may not have been in 2016. Now she’s a Coke horror like the rest of them. Her Jones isn’t so much the $$$. It’s the power. Most of them crave both. So I guess one could give her that.
    A wise pivot. She’s basically untouchable on corruption, only the Trumpiest of Trumpers believe that shit. And you can’t prove her intentions are pure so smart attack. But it really doesn’t matter what you think, she’s just going to keep on helping people. That’s the American way.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    RoadTrip said:

    Sorry, he wrote that women fantasize about being gang raped. You're right; he's a swell guy. In other words, his grotesque wife was acquitted. Ask the Dazzler what that means.
    She wasn’t acquitted, she wasn’t charged.

    And some women do. No kink shaming in the tug.
    You're right. She was never charged. I don't care what you do or think about. I don't like Bernie or his heinous wife. I know why you do.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Sorry, he wrote that women fantasize about being gang raped. You're right; he's a swell guy. In other words, his grotesque wife was acquitted. Ask the Dazzler what that means.
    She wasn’t acquitted, she wasn’t charged.

    And some women do. No kink shaming in the tug.
    You're right. She was never charged. I don't care what you do or think about. I don't like Bernie or his heinous wife. I know why you do.
    Because I love my country and support politicians that want to make it better?
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Kaepsknee said:

    AOC isn’t corrupt.

    She may not have been in 2016. Now she’s a Coke horror like the rest of them. Her Jones isn’t so much the $$$. It’s the power. Most of them crave both. So I guess one could give her that.
    A wise pivot. She’s basically untouchable on corruption, only the Trumpiest of Trumpers believe that shit. And you can’t prove her intentions are pure so smart attack. But it really doesn’t matter what you think, she’s just going to keep on helping people. That’s the American way.
    If you simply switch the highlighted words above, then you’ll see you’re deeper into a cult than any Trumptard here could have dreamed to be.