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Someone PM'd me asking my opinion of the Ted Cruz / Cancun thing
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Just what we need.....more governmentTheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all
That's the only reason you need not to have it free
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Agree.PurpleThrobber said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making housing freeTheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all -
Besides the military , which im Sure you want reduced....what other aspects of the government do you want reduced?TheKobeStopper said:
Agree.PurpleThrobber said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making housing freeTheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all -
What are you talking about? Have another drinkNorthwestFresh said:
“Rafael,” but I wouldn’t expect an admitted racist such as yourself to know how to spell a Latino name.HuskyJW said:
His name is RaphaelDerekJohnson said:I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.
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Ted invited another guy to Cancun....probably just business
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Other than making property taxes shoot through the roof, which will then either increase rental rates, or limit the amount of rental properties available, or both. So you're now homeless, but no worries, your Econ101 class is pro bono...DipshitTheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all
So if a student fails a class and has to retake it, who pays for that? In essence you will then have an over-crowding of public universities, with a growing population of students that have no business being there and being there on the public dime.
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His first name is “Rafael,” not “Raphael.” He isn’t a Mutant Ninja Turtle, dummy.HuskyJW said:
What are you talking about? Have another drinkNorthwestFresh said:
“Rafael,” but I wouldn’t expect an admitted racist such as yourself to know how to spell a Latino name.HuskyJW said:
His name is RaphaelDerekJohnson said:I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.
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Because it's a waste of money in most cases in the last 20 years, outside of engineering, computer science and business.TheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all
Right now, today, college is an overpriced bribe to drag fools out of HS and into debt they'll be repaying to banks for the next 30 years for fear if they don't follow the flock, they'll be losers in the income game. And Mike Rowe lays waste to this lie with every true-life example he broadcasts or writes about. You know, facts & stuff.
And @TheKobeStopper wants the taxpayers to foot the entire bill for this worthless fucking insanity. What a surprise. -
the only way to make it free is to have them serve in the military for 4 years. someone might have posted this earlier but I am not going to read this entire thread
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You left out medical degrees in undergrad which lead to researchers and doctors in med school. My older daughter isn’t getting $30,000/year for 4 years in Tucson to study why slavery in the past of the USA was bad but is fine today in Africa.TurdBomber said:
Because it's a waste of money in most cases in the last 20 years, outside of engineering, computer science and business.TheKobeStopper said:
I have not heard a good argument for not making college tuition free. If it’s going to be some shit about not being fair to people that already paid, don’t waste our time.Tequilla said:
Healthcare is complicated for a number of reasons so I’m not that interested in getting into it nowTheKobeStopper said:
Framing can do a lot of work.creepycoug said:
Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.TheKobeStopper said:
“Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.RoadDawg55 said:
The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.Prestonluv said:We need to be an issue based political society
This right left shit is out of hand.
Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
AOC is a corrupt POS
Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
Trump is a narcissist
Biden doesn't remember yesterday
I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us
It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.
Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?
I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
That said, can you understand why there are people that are at least not fully supportive of continuing education past the the high school level?
There’s always nuance between none and all
Right now, today, college is an overpriced bribe to drag fools out of HS and into debt they'll be repaying to banks for the next 30 years for fear if they don't follow the flock, they'll be losers in the income game. And Mike Rowe lays waste to this lie with every true-life example he broadcasts or writes about. You know, facts & stuff.
And @TheKobeStopper wants the taxpayers to foot the entire bill for this worthless fucking insanity. What a surprise.
