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DerekJohnson
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I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,266

    I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.

    His name is Raphael
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HuskyJW said:

    I haven't commented on it because I'm just not interested in it. I think what he did was terrible leadership and horrible judgment. It makes him look like an elitist snob. But it's about 135th on my list of national concerns right now.

    His name is Raphael
    “Rafael,” but I wouldn’t expect an admitted racist such as yourself to know how to spell a Latino name.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    AOC isn’t corrupt.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter

    AOC isn’t corrupt.

    Hahaha
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    Completely agree with you. Good post. Idealogues are hard to deal with. All of them.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.

    This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.

    This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
    The Throbbder's got the rhythm and is dancing to the obk beat.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.

    This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
    So, it is a right or left thing.
    It is. Need to pick a side. I didn't trust Trump in 2016 and didn't vote for him. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. Bend hit it on the head of the nail. Nothing about my political views has changed in that time period. It is just that you have a choice for relative freedom and liberty and secure property rights or you can vote for the opposite. Why is Ted Cruz corrupt?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.

    This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
    So, it is a right or left thing.
    It is. Need to pick a side. I didn't trust Trump in 2016 and didn't vote for him. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. Bend hit it on the head of the nail. Nothing about my political views has changed in that time period. It is just that you have a choice for relative freedom and liberty and secure property rights or you can vote for the opposite. Why is Ted Cruz corrupt?
    It's implied with those of Cuban descent.

    (ducks)

  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.

    This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
    So, it is a right or left thing.
    Is one side trying to silence speach and or opinion more than the other or not? I believe there is a lot of truth in WL's post that is routinely ignored. Until the right finds the stones to tell the left to fuck off, all of us will continue to lose our rights or at least those some governing body determines we should have. If that makes me lean significantly in a direction I will.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.

    This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
    So, it is a right or left thing.
    It is. Need to pick a side. I didn't trust Trump in 2016 and didn't vote for him. I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020. Bend hit it on the head of the nail. Nothing about my political views has changed in that time period. It is just that you have a choice for relative freedom and liberty and secure property rights or you can vote for the opposite. Why is Ted Cruz corrupt?
    So, you admit, you’re a candidate for Unity Education Learning?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017
    edited February 2021
    RoadTrip said:

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    This isn't a right or left thing. This is one side trying to take away rights. The left literally has supported more violence by their silence than I have ever seen in my life. FFS they are trying now to erase history. Destroy statues, eliminate names on schools, federal buildings, etc. Erase the history of men and women who made sacrifices for our country. They are teaching our children that the color of their skin makes them racist. Can anyone believe that? This week the left proposed a bill that will fundamentally change our country forever. The reason they are doing it? They believe if they give 15 million illegals the vote, the "right" will never win another election. The bill to take away a persons right to own firearms is already in the works. One side is wiretapping campaign HQ's and getting away with it. Colluding with Russians and then trying to impeach a President who DIDN'T collude with Russian's. The left literally attempted twice to take away the votes of 70 million people without any cause whatsoever. We just elected a man who is tied to so much corruption and is a proven liar its unbelievable that he was even allowed to run for the office. There will be no special prosecutor because it is the left's guy.

    This is not a left or right thing. This is a fight for our rights. A fight to have the right to make an impact with a vote and not have the violent minority rule over the majority. A fight to recognize that this country has done more good for the world than any other in history, not the racist cesspool the left is telling the world it is.
    So, it is a right or left thing.
    Is one side trying to silence speach and or opinion more than the other or not? I believe there is a lot of truth in WL's post that is routinely ignored. Until the right finds the stones to tell the left to fuck off, all of us will continue to lose our rights or at least those some governing body determines we should have. If that makes me lean significantly in a direction I will.
    Just responding to BITR’s post, which started with “not a right or left thing” and then wrote a page of it’s a right or left thing.

    I myself am still comfortable being an issue-oriented person that will try and abstain from tribal associations. PC shit has been around forever; and when you belong to a tribe and that tribe gains traction soon enough you will find yourself being required to recite the pledge upon demand. I also see enough rhetoric, lies and bullshit to go around for all kinds of political persuasions, though I agree there is a particularly pernicious form of social pressure to conform to CRT and the existence and extent of systemic racism that needs to be checked.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,595 Standard Supporter
    10 years ago the Dimocrats seemed like the lesser of the evils. This was before most people knew all this ridiculous social justice warrior nomenclature had taken over and it was still pretty fringe and confined to grievance studies professors and gross women and soy boys. Right now, the Republicons are, and yeah, I do credit Trump somewhat. All the cancel culture and erasing history is disgusting and it's also commie takeover 101. I'm a history major. I know.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    The American middle is soft minded. Any self described centrist that feels Trump is an authoritarian in the nature of Hitler is at best soft mined.
  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275
    edited February 2021

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Most people don't even know who the fuck they are voting for. They just look at the letter attached. It doesn't matter if its R,D or L or I. It's a fucking retarded mentality. If we take away the letter we force people to research what each candidate stands for and believes in. But this will not occur under the guidance of the Rs and Ds. The want to stay in power and therefore promote the two party mentality and fail to bring up the term limit issue for congressman. This allows people to have politics as a career Instead of a position meant to serve the people. As a result, even the most genuine people turn corrupt.

    Nothing will change unless the people force it and whether you agree with it or not that's a big reason why trump was elected and a big reason for the March on the capital. A large group of people in this country want our politicians to burn. you can include me in that group
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,844
    As a centrist, I thrive on threads like this.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    We need to be an issue based political society

    This right left shit is out of hand.

    Ted Cruz is a corrupt POS
    AOC is a corrupt POS
    Rudy Guliani is a corrupt POS
    Andrew Cuomo is a murderer
    Trump is a narcissist
    Biden doesn't remember yesterday

    I mean fantastic leadership all around. This is what a corrupt two party system has brought us

    The right left shit is crazy. Even seemingly intelligent people pick a side and dig in.
    “Left vs right” is framing. The middle is every bit a side as anything else. The left wants to progress, the right wants to conserve what we had and the middle wants to maintain where we are.

    It would actually be hugely beneficial if the middle would just admit that their position is based on protecting the status quo because they live comfortable lives and don’t want too much to change. It’s not better than people that believe the left is always correct or the right is always correct, it’s just a different flavor.
    Yes. I like my status quo. I worked for it. And it’s pretty good. It’s a reasonable compromise to run an ordered society.

    It ain’t even gonna be perfect man. I pay a shit load of taxes and have for a good long while, much of it for purposes of helping others. Happy to do it but at some point it’s too much.
    Framing can do a lot of work.

    See I could say, you want society ordered the way it is, I want socialism, let’s compromise and do universal healthcare and free college.

    Why aren’t you willing to do that? I thought you liked compromise? Why are you being such an ideologue? Every other developed country has a form of universal healthcare, why are you so extreme?

    I voted for Biden, come on man. This whole “you won’t compromise, you’re demanding a perfect world” schtick only pushes people like me away.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    both extremes are annoying and dumb, and at times dangerous

    no, there aren't 75 genders. You're stupid for claiming pseudo science as real science under the guise of discrimination against the mentally ill

    no, not everything is racist and not every "poc" is a fucking victim. Quit whining you crybabies

    yes, maybe limiting guns in the hands of the insane and deranged isn't a bad idea. It doesn't mean I want to confiscate every gun in the country, Billy Bob.


    Yes, having a huge income gap and wealth disparity is kind of a problem. Maybe stop worshipping every business magnate and defending their effective 15 percent tax rate when we're in debt 27 trillion now.

    There aren’t 75 genders, there are none.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    both extremes are annoying and dumb, and at times dangerous

    no, there aren't 75 genders. You're stupid for claiming pseudo science as real science under the guise of discrimination against the mentally ill

    no, not everything is racist and not every "poc" is a fucking victim. Quit whining you crybabies

    yes, maybe limiting guns in the hands of the insane and deranged isn't a bad idea. It doesn't mean I want to confiscate every gun in the country, Billy Bob.


    Yes, having a huge income gap and wealth disparity is kind of a problem. Maybe stop worshipping every business magnate and defending their effective 15 percent tax rate when we're in debt 27 trillion now.

    There aren’t 75 genders, there are none.
    Science is settled
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    MelloDawg said:

    As a centrist, I thrive on threads like this.

    If all centrists were mellos and all conservatives were dncs, the world would be a better place.