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Will Gov't have to invest in stock market to keep Soc. Security Solvent?

godawgst
godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam
edited May 2022 in Tug Tavern
The path it's on is not sustainable, unless the gov't wants to keep raising the age requirement and increase tax they take in on workers.

I could see one day a two prong system that people choose which one they want to be a part of

The first is structured just like the current one

The second is a portion of your taxes is put into the S and P 500 with the guarantee there is a backstop or minimum you will get, however if over the 40/50 years you have averaged making 7% as an example, the Gov't gets to keep 2% of it or something like that.

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  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam
    doogie said:

    Lol

    If the Gov't attempts to fix the shortfall and not just print more money, how do you think they will try to make it solvent?

    What is going on currently is a upside down pyramid scheme where there are less and less people paying in to support more and more people who are all living longer and taking even more dollars.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,114 Standard Supporter
    godawgst said:

    The path it's on is not sustainable, unless the gov't wants to keep raising the age requirement and increase tax they take in on workers.

    I could see one day a two prong system that people choose which one they want to be a part of

    The first is structured just like the current one

    The second is a portion of your taxes is put into the S and P 500 with the guarantee there is a backstop or minimum you will get, however if over the 40/50 years you have averaged making 7% as an example, the Gov't gets to keep 2% of it or something like that.

    The Government just raises taxes. They don't want to be capped at 2%.

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    and you want Guarantees? Ain’t no guarantees. Sorry. Backstops are for baseball and Banks
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,672 Standard Supporter
    They could raise the income cap of 120k or whatever it is now. I know that's sacrilege to some here.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,114 Standard Supporter

    They could raise the income cap of 120k or whatever it is now. I know that's sacrilege to some here.



    You mean like they've continually done?
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    godawgst said:

    doogie said:

    Lol

    If the Gov't attempts to fix the shortfall and not just print more money, how do you think they will try to make it solvent?

    What is going on currently is a upside down pyramid scheme where there are less and less people paying in to support more and more people who are all living longer and taking even more dollars.
    I think you mean ponzi scheme
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,114 Standard Supporter

    godawgst said:

    doogie said:

    Lol

    If the Gov't attempts to fix the shortfall and not just print more money, how do you think they will try to make it solvent?

    What is going on currently is a upside down pyramid scheme where there are less and less people paying in to support more and more people who are all living longer and taking even more dollars.
    I think you mean ponzi scheme
    Mostly peaceful ponzi scheme.

    (stoking the Tug/Finance board wars)

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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    They might, but I think it would be more the govt trying to prop up the stock market than anything else. Otherwise I expect the Fed to start buying index funds in the next couple years ala Japan...can't let the S&P go down...