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Charles Murray the bravest man in America

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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His book Losing Ground had probably the biggest single impact on converting me from a liberal into a Conservative.

The charges of white privilege and systemic racism that are tearing the country apart fIoat free of reality. Two known facts, long since documented beyond reasonable doubt, need to be brought into the open and incorporated into the way we think about public policy: American whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have different violent crime rates and different means and distributions of cognitive ability. The allegations of racism in policing, college admissions, segregation in housing, and hiring and promotions in the workplace ignore the ways in which the problems that prompt the allegations of systemic racism are driven by these two realities.

What good can come of bringing them into the open? America’s most precious ideal is what used to be known as the American Creed: People are not to be judged by where they came from, what social class they come from, or by race, color, or creed. They must be judged as individuals. The prevailing Progressive ideology repudiates that ideal, demanding instead that the state should judge people by their race, social origins, religion, sex, and sexual orientation.

We on the center left and center right who are the American Creed’s natural defenders have painted ourselves into a corner. We have been unwilling to say openly that different groups have significant group differences. Since we have not been willing to say that, we have been left defenseless against the claims that racism is to blame. What else could it be? We have been afraid to answer. We must. Facing Reality is a step in that direction.


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/facing-reality.php

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,026
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    "We have been unwilling to say openly that different groups have significant group differences." Lots of CRT supporters are arguing that melanin makes blacks the superior. MLK's equal opportunity went out the window a long time ago. Good thing we have Sotomayor on the Supreme Court because she is a wise Latina because everyone knows that hispanics are born wise.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    Everything that I was raised with, and everything that was taught and pushed on me during my 12 years in public school and in College have now been turned on its head. Now we're told that we have to judge people on their race but only in ways that the left deems acceptable. If there aren't enough blacks in the STEM programs at your local schools it's due to systemic white racism. The fact that the programs are dominated by Asians and East Indians doesn't matter. Systemic white racism is still to blame for the low numbers of blacks and Hispanics.

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    HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
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    SFGbob said:

    Everything that I was raised with, and everything that was taught and pushed on me during my 12 years in public school and in College have now been turned on its head. Now we're told that we have to judge people on their race but only in ways that the left deems acceptable. If there aren't enough blacks in the STEM programs at your local schools it's due to systemic white racism. The fact that the programs are dominated by Asians and East Indians doesn't matter. Systemic white racism is still to blame for the low numbers of blacks and Hispanics.

    You should have taken more math classes so the numbers and shit make more sense to you.
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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    SFGbob said:

    Everything that I was raised with, and everything that was taught and pushed on me during my 12 years in public school and in College have now been turned on its head. Now we're told that we have to judge people on their race but only in ways that the left deems acceptable. If there aren't enough blacks in the STEM programs at your local schools it's due to systemic white racism. The fact that the programs are dominated by Asians and East Indians doesn't matter. Systemic white racism is still to blame for the low numbers of blacks and Hispanics.

    You should have taken more math classes so the numbers and shit make more sense to you.
    This makes no sense after reading Bob’s post.

    FAS kicking in again, Bubblehead?
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,757
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    SFGbob said:

    Everything that I was raised with, and everything that was taught and pushed on me during my 12 years in public school and in College have now been turned on its head. Now we're told that we have to judge people on their race but only in ways that the left deems acceptable. If there aren't enough blacks in the STEM programs at your local schools it's due to systemic white racism. The fact that the programs are dominated by Asians and East Indians doesn't matter. Systemic white racism is still to blame for the low numbers of blacks and Hispanics.

    You should have taken more math classes so the numbers and shit make more sense to you.
    You just hoisted yourself by your own petard, but there's no chance you'll realize it.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    SFGbob said:

    Everything that I was raised with, and everything that was taught and pushed on me during my 12 years in public school and in College have now been turned on its head. Now we're told that we have to judge people on their race but only in ways that the left deems acceptable. If there aren't enough blacks in the STEM programs at your local schools it's due to systemic white racism. The fact that the programs are dominated by Asians and East Indians doesn't matter. Systemic white racism is still to blame for the low numbers of blacks and Hispanics.

    You should have taken more math classes so the numbers and shit make more sense to you.
    Maybe some day Owl will let go of the side of the kiddie pool. Feel free to explain what numbers don’t make sense to me owl. Until then glug, glug
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    I’m not jumping in to save him
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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    SFGbob said:

    His book Losing Ground had probably the biggest single impact on converting me from a liberal into a Conservative.

    The charges of white privilege and systemic racism that are tearing the country apart fIoat free of reality. Two known facts, long since documented beyond reasonable doubt, need to be brought into the open and incorporated into the way we think about public policy: American whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have different violent crime rates and different means and distributions of cognitive ability. The allegations of racism in policing, college admissions, segregation in housing, and hiring and promotions in the workplace ignore the ways in which the problems that prompt the allegations of systemic racism are driven by these two realities.

    What good can come of bringing them into the open? America’s most precious ideal is what used to be known as the American Creed: People are not to be judged by where they came from, what social class they come from, or by race, color, or creed. They must be judged as individuals. The prevailing Progressive ideology repudiates that ideal, demanding instead that the state should judge people by their race, social origins, religion, sex, and sexual orientation.

    We on the center left and center right who are the American Creed’s natural defenders have painted ourselves into a corner. We have been unwilling to say openly that different groups have significant group differences. Since we have not been willing to say that, we have been left defenseless against the claims that racism is to blame. What else could it be? We have been afraid to answer. We must. Facing Reality is a step in that direction.


    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/facing-reality.php

    um, hello?
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,757
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    SFGbob said:

    His book Losing Ground had probably the biggest single impact on converting me from a liberal into a Conservative.

    The charges of white privilege and systemic racism that are tearing the country apart fIoat free of reality. Two known facts, long since documented beyond reasonable doubt, need to be brought into the open and incorporated into the way we think about public policy: American whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have different violent crime rates and different means and distributions of cognitive ability. The allegations of racism in policing, college admissions, segregation in housing, and hiring and promotions in the workplace ignore the ways in which the problems that prompt the allegations of systemic racism are driven by these two realities.

    What good can come of bringing them into the open? America’s most precious ideal is what used to be known as the American Creed: People are not to be judged by where they came from, what social class they come from, or by race, color, or creed. They must be judged as individuals. The prevailing Progressive ideology repudiates that ideal, demanding instead that the state should judge people by their race, social origins, religion, sex, and sexual orientation.

    We on the center left and center right who are the American Creed’s natural defenders have painted ourselves into a corner. We have been unwilling to say openly that different groups have significant group differences. Since we have not been willing to say that, we have been left defenseless against the claims that racism is to blame. What else could it be? We have been afraid to answer. We must. Facing Reality is a step in that direction.


    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/facing-reality.php

    um, hello?
    Hi. Is measuring things now racist, too?

    Better purge any and all thermometers from your house, because racism.
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