Jeremiah Martin, 2018 4* BUCK, San Bernardino (Cajon), CA (OFFERED 9/27)
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From 2471to392831weretaken said:
Player participation and statistics are easy to find. I read an article somewhere (not sbnation, but who cares) about him entering the transfer portal that explained why, citing the lack of playing time and players moving around him cited above.FremontTroll said:Yes, most highly rated kids that flame out and move to a lesser program end up doing nothing.
No, there is no risk laid for the potential, albeit unlikely, reward. We have a bajillion open spots.
Maybe, what are all these facts about Martin at A&M? Do we have an actual Aggie or did 1to329832 just read an sbnation article and declare himself expert?
"However, despite good film and a quality athletic pedigree, Martin didn't have much of an impact in his first year on campus even in games where he sa quite a few snaps. He had never been in a dedicated weight program when he arrived in College Station and he had a lean body, even at a listed 244 pounds at that time.
Martin turned out to be mostly is a straight line guy who uses his length as opposed to any quick twitch capabilities or bend to make plays. He spent last season behind Johnson and Clemons (both of whom are returning for the 2021 season). In addition, he'll had multiple freshman from the 2020 recruiting class such as Fadil Diggs, Donell Harris, and Braedon Mowry coming at him from the bottom up.
Martin appeared in 11 games as a freshman in 2018, primarily on special teams, but also popped in as a backup for Landis Durham. Despite the extraordinary numbers that he put up during his senior season in high school as a pass rusher, he was used some as a drop player in the hybrid edge position that Mike Elko's defense employed. Despite the departure of Durham, Martin didn't play any much more in 2019 than he did in 2018 as Tyree Johnson got the nod as the first team edge player in the pre season. Martin appeared in ten games and was slightly more productive, recording three tackles for loss including one in the bowl game win over Oklahoma State. However, even when Johnson missed time at the edge spot due to injury, the Aggies used other personnel to fill in for him, moving Micheal Clemons there from the opposite side and then starting Aaron Hansford in a three backer alignment versus LSU." -
There are opinions and then there are verifiable facts. Guy above him on the depth chart got hurt, instead of him playing, other guy got moved over. The trustworthiness of the source is irrelevant. The stats for participation and tackles aren't. The depth charts from 2018, 2019, and 2020 confirm the reporting:FremontTroll said:
And knowing the quality of analysis from UW beat writers and fan bloggers d’ya think we should apply the same skepticism to articles analyzing A&M’s depth chart?1to392831weretaken said:
Player participation and statistics are easy to find. I read an article somewhere (not sbnation, but who cares) about him entering the transfer portal that explained why, citing the lack of playing time and players moving around him cited above.FremontTroll said:Yes, most highly rated kids that flame out and move to a lesser program end up doing nothing.
No, there is no risk laid for the potential, albeit unlikely, reward. We have a bajillion open spots.
Maybe, what are all these facts about Martin at A&M? Do we have an actual Aggie or did 1to329832 just read an sbnation article and declare himself expert?
2018 depth chart:
DE1
1. Landis Durham - Sr
2. Tyree Johson - Fr-Rs
DE2
1. Kingsly Keke - Sr
2. Bobby Brown - Fr
2019 depth chart:
DE1
1. Tyree Johnson - So
2. Jeremiah Martin - So
DE2
1. Michael Clemons - Jr
2. DeMarvin Leal - Fr
When Johnson got hurt before the LSU game that year, instead of bumping Martin up, they moved Clemons over and moved the #2 MLB up to play an extra linebacker.
2020 depth chart:
DE1
1. Tyree Johnson - Jr
DeMarvin Leal - So
2. Jeremiah Martin - Jr
DE2
1. Michael Clemons - Gr
2. DeMarvin Leal - So
So in three years, he went from being third string, #4 DE, #4 DE, transfer.
Full stop: If this isn't a guy whose name you know and how UW previously recruited, are you excited to take a transfer from some other school who is a.) a fourth year junior and b.) has never been better than #4 on the team at his position?
Am I taking crazy pills? -
Excited? No. Nobody is but you and roadie can keep pretending so if you need it to justify your contrary position.1to392831weretaken said:
There are opinions and then there are verifiable facts. Guy above him on the depth chart got hurt, instead of him playing, other guy got moved over. The trustworthiness of the source is irrelevant. The stats for participation and tackles aren't. The depth charts from 2018, 2019, and 2020 confirm the reporting:FremontTroll said:
And knowing the quality of analysis from UW beat writers and fan bloggers d’ya think we should apply the same skepticism to articles analyzing A&M’s depth chart?1to392831weretaken said:
Player participation and statistics are easy to find. I read an article somewhere (not sbnation, but who cares) about him entering the transfer portal that explained why, citing the lack of playing time and players moving around him cited above.FremontTroll said:Yes, most highly rated kids that flame out and move to a lesser program end up doing nothing.
No, there is no risk laid for the potential, albeit unlikely, reward. We have a bajillion open spots.
Maybe, what are all these facts about Martin at A&M? Do we have an actual Aggie or did 1to329832 just read an sbnation article and declare himself expert?
2018 depth chart:
DE1
1. Landis Durham - Sr
2. Tyree Johson - Fr-Rs
DE2
1. Kingsly Keke - Sr
2. Bobby Brown - Fr
2019 depth chart:
DE1
1. Tyree Johnson - So
2. Jeremiah Martin - So
DE2
1. Michael Clemons - Jr
2. DeMarvin Leal - Fr
When Johnson got hurt before the LSU game that year, instead of bumping Martin up, they moved Clemons over and moved the #2 MLB up to play an extra linebacker.
2020 depth chart:
DE1
1. Tyree Johnson - Jr
DeMarvin Leal - So
2. Jeremiah Martin - Jr
DE2
1. Michael Clemons - Gr
2. DeMarvin Leal - So
So in three years, he went from being third string, #4 DE, #4 DE, transfer.
Full stop: If this isn't a guy whose name you know and how UW previously recruited, are you excited to take a transfer from some other school who is a.) a fourth year junior and b.) has never been better than #4 on the team at his position?
Am I taking crazy pills?
It just doesn't fucking matter. It can't hurt. It could help. He's a big guy who can run. Rosters aren't static. What's the issue? -
It’s better than giving a scholarship to Chaze Skuza?? Again, it’s a flier. If he’s not in the rotation I guarantee you he transfers from UW.
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We had to play true freshman Cooper McDonald last year. There's a decent chance any random 4th string SEC defensive lineman would play for us
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That 247 scouting report of Martin sounds a lot like Benning to be honest. Strong guy with good athleticism but isn't that quick-twitch type of pass rusher. I'm fine with that. Benning didn't do a ton in terms of rushing the passer but we was a solid run defender and you could even put him in space a little bit to defend the pass. Martin will be a great guy to have at BUCK when we need to go heavy against bigger teams.
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Good point about Potoae. He was huge against the run and along with Bowman have been the only OLBs since Joe Mathis capable of holding the edge. *We need big OLBs in the rotation. Smalls and ZTF (who is big but clueless vs the run) are pass rush specialists. Latu hasn't been healthy yet. Who else is there when Bowman is hurt or gone?louism2wash said:That 247 scouting report of Martin sounds a lot like Benning to be honest. Strong guy with good athleticism but isn't that quick-twitch type of pass rusher. I'm fine with that. Benning didn't do a ton in terms of rushing the passer but we was a solid run defender and you could even put him in space a little bit to defend the pass. Martin will be a great guy to have at BUCK when we need to go heavy against bigger teams.
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Murray shit on a field?1to392831weretaken said:
As a junior? And was he third string and looking like dropping further?backthepack said:I’m hearing that Kyler Murray sucks because he got benched at A&M!
This isn't Kyler Murray, this is Tate Martell.
Edit: Also, Murray didn't get benched. It was the opposite. As a true freshman, he beat out the starter late in the season to finish the season out as the starter. He posted pretty good numbers in three starts as a true freshman. He did shit on the fucking field. -
Wait, there's people here who don't want Martin? I've seen it all. He's a take.
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ZTF holding the edge is just a matter of playing time. Dude needs more reps he will get it. Kid already knows how to pass rush which is far more desired qualitychuck said:
Good point about Potoae. He was huge against the run and along with Bowman have been the only OLBs since Joe Mathis capable of holding the edge. *We need big OLBs in the rotation. Smalls and ZTF (who is big but clueless vs the run) are pass rush specialists. Latu hasn't been healthy yet. Who else is there when Bowman is hurt or gone?louism2wash said:That 247 scouting report of Martin sounds a lot like Benning to be honest. Strong guy with good athleticism but isn't that quick-twitch type of pass rusher. I'm fine with that. Benning didn't do a ton in terms of rushing the passer but we was a solid run defender and you could even put him in space a little bit to defend the pass. Martin will be a great guy to have at BUCK when we need to go heavy against bigger teams.
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We will move him to h-back if it doesn’t work out.CallMeBigErn said:Wait, there's people here who don't want Martin? I've seen it all. He's a take.
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So does he have 2 or 3 years of eligibility left?
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Good
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Should add some depth off the bench for the next two years.
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Looks like Mishael Powell won't be getting that scholarship. Huge blow to @1to392831weretaken.
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How are we making room for him? ZTF transfer? Bowman going pro?
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“I was like, you know somebody went there, and it’s so surprising that it’s like they speak so highly of where they go because you just speak highly,” Martin said back in February 2018 of his trip to Seattle.
“But actually, they’re speaking highly because it was probably one of the greatest programs. Like I don’t know how to explain it.: -
Holy nice writing lars
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Did this kid actually say that or did Lars just mess it up? Yes, really bad writing. He’s even worse than dawgman.backthepack said:Holy nice writing lars
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Lars is @FireCohen, it all makes sense now.backthepack said:Holy nice writing lars
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Junior season recap from his Texas A&M bio...
2020 (JUNIOR): Has played in eight games, logging 140 snaps on defense and special teams … Made a tackle on defense in the win over LSU. -
CataclysmicHuskyClaws said:Junior season recap from his Texas A&M bio...
2020 (JUNIOR): Has played in eight games, logging 140 snaps on defense and special teams … Made a tackle on defense in the win over LSU. -
So what your saying, he's fresh.HuskyClaws said:Junior season recap from his Texas A&M bio...
2020 (JUNIOR): Has played in eight games, logging 140 snaps on defense and special teams … Made a tackle on defense in the win over LSU. -
Does this mean Bynum isn't working out?
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Lawrence Taylor 2.0?
