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Why hasn't there been a white CB in the NFL for over 20 years?

SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
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Is it systemic and or institutional racism in the NFL?
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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Easy answer is that the NFL is merit-based, just as is the NBA. If you’re better than someone, you get paid and skin color has nothing to do with the choice.

    But let’s kneel because it all sucks in the USA.

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2021
    NorthwestFresh said:

    Easy answer is that the NFL is merit-based, just as is the NBA. If you’re better than someone, you get paid and skin color has nothing to do with the choice.

    But let’s kneel because it all sucks in the USA.

    But how can it be that "merit" is so disproportionately distributed? Whenever we find even a fraction of this kind of disproportionately distributed "merit" in the private sector it's time for lawsuits. Why doesn't white privilege allow for at least a few white DBs? Why do the racist in the NFL feel that blacks are better suited to play DB? Is that a position where the racists in the NFL feel that white men just can't compete?
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,260 Standard Supporter
    Because I never got invited to the combine.....
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    dflea said:

    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.

    And you're such a fucking pathetic lightweight you can respond with anything other than your canned bullshit. Who said anything about being victim you strawman ass fucking bitch? I just asked some questions and obviously they triggered your little Kunt meltdown.

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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,604 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.

    Now that's the type of honest conversation about race that I'm told that leftards are just dying to have. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    WestlinnDuck said:

    dflea said:

    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.

    Now that's the type of honest conversation about race that I'm told that leftards are just dying to have. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    Either disparate impact is a real thing and legal issue in the country or it's not. I'm told that it is a real thing. Wondering why it doesn't apply here?
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,604 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    dflea said:

    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.

    Now that's the type of honest conversation about race that I'm told that leftards are just dying to have. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    Either disparate impact is a real thing and legal issue in the country or it's not. I'm told that it is a real thing. Wondering why it doesn't apply here?
    I'm told that several NFL cornerbacks voted for Trump and thus magically became white. Disparate impact negated.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    WestlinnDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    dflea said:

    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.

    Now that's the type of honest conversation about race that I'm told that leftards are just dying to have. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    Either disparate impact is a real thing and legal issue in the country or it's not. I'm told that it is a real thing. Wondering why it doesn't apply here?
    I'm told that several NFL cornerbacks voted for Trump and thus magically became white. Disparate impact negated.
    The old "you ain't white" drop rule.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,604 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    dflea said:

    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.

    Now that's the type of honest conversation about race that I'm told that leftards are just dying to have. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    Either disparate impact is a real thing and legal issue in the country or it's not. I'm told that it is a real thing. Wondering why it doesn't apply here?
    I'm told that several NFL cornerbacks voted for Trump and thus magically became white. Disparate impact negated.
    The old "you ain't white" drop rule.
    Like getting a leftard to define "black" for AA purposes. Tiger is less than half black but he is in the club. Same with Mahomes. Not that I give a sh*t, but the left is big on identity politics and Critical Race Theory but then shuts the hell up when who is in the club questions get asked.
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  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275
    A white male born in America

    You hit the life lotto

    Congrats
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  • Prestonluv
    Prestonluv Member Posts: 275
    WestlinnDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    SFGbob said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    dflea said:

    You're such a crying little cunt, Gaybob. You're a victim of everything - just like the leftist pussies you hate.

    But you're them.

    You fucking pussy. Just shut the fuck up.

    Now that's the type of honest conversation about race that I'm told that leftards are just dying to have. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
    Either disparate impact is a real thing and legal issue in the country or it's not. I'm told that it is a real thing. Wondering why it doesn't apply here?
    I'm told that several NFL cornerbacks voted for Trump and thus magically became white. Disparate impact negated.
    The old "you ain't white" drop rule.
    Like getting a leftard to define "black" for AA purposes. Tiger is less than half black but he is in the club. Same with Mahomes. Not that I give a sh*t, but the left is big on identity politics and Critical Race Theory but then shuts the hell up when who is in the club questions get asked.
    Most of the racism in black communities is black on black whether is be shade of skin or first generation African immigrant.

    Media portrays this huge white on black racism which does exist but not to the extent they portray. The reason being is many inner city black people don’t deal with a bunch of whities on a regular basis. Maybe they Deal with racist cops or figures of authority at times but it’s not like racist white people stroll the streets of the CD or Rainier Beach area.

    The media never focuses on this because hey....blame the whitey is the name of the game now.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,604 Standard Supporter
    Prestonluv said:

    A white male born in America

    You hit the life lotto

    Congrats

    Imagine a culture that historically promoted self-reliance, hard work, the rule of law, education and the sanctity of property. It's such a freaking surprise that this culture would succeed. Now, imagine a white culture in Russia that embraced communism. Now imagine an Asian culture in China that embraced communism. Or a largely white culture in Cuba that embraced communism. Imagine an Asian culture in North Korea that embraced communism. Imagine a largely white culture in Argentina which was among the world's top 10 economies per capita in the world in the 1920s which embraced socialism. Imagine a largely white culture in Venezuela with the world's largest oil reserves that embraced socialism. I'm seeing a pattern and it has nothing to do with skin color.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Prestonluv said:

    A white male born in America

    You hit the life lotto

    Congrats

    I'd apply that to anyone of any race that was born here in the last 50 years. Hell if I'm black I'm kneeling down and kissing the ground mournful that my ancestors were enslaved but thanking the lord that they were so that I didn't have to grow up and live in an African shit country.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    WestlinnDuck said:

    Prestonluv said:

    A white male born in America

    You hit the life lotto

    Congrats

    Imagine a culture that historically promoted self-reliance, hard work, the rule of law, education and the sanctity of property. It's such a freaking surprise that this culture would succeed. Now, imagine a white culture in Russia that embraced communism. Now imagine an Asian culture in China that embraced communism. Or a largely white culture in Cuba that embraced communism. Imagine an Asian culture in North Korea that embraced communism. Imagine a largely white culture in Argentina which was among the world's top 10 economies per capita in the world in the 1920s which embraced socialism. Imagine a largely white culture in Venezuela with the world's largest oil reserves that embraced socialism. I'm seeing a pattern and it has nothing to do with skin color.
    Culture and values are everything. Skin color has nothing to do with it.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,604 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Prestonluv said:

    A white male born in America

    You hit the life lotto

    Congrats

    I'd apply that to anyone of any race that was born here in the last 50 years. Hell if I'm black I'm kneeling down and kissing the ground mournful that my ancestors were enslaved but thanking the lord that they were so that I didn't have to grow up and live in an African shit country.
    If we had a honest education system and an honest and educated MSM blacks would realize how much opportunity they have in the US. Since they were the most punished by the blue state lockdowns they should know how much white dems really care about them. Education vouchers to let them get out of an inner city black sh*t hole school system? Hold on there, pardner. That's crazy talk.
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  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    edited February 2021
    What a fascinating thread.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    MelloDawg said:

    What a fascinating thread.

    What a vacuous response.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,604 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    MelloDawg said:

    What a fascinating thread.

    What a vacuous centrist response.
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  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
    Superior hip genetics. CB is all about the hips.

    The last well-known white cornerback was Jason Sehorn, formerly of the New York Giants. Sehorn played with the Giants from 1996 to 2002. Sehorn had two incredible seasons in 1996 and 1997 before tearing his ACL returning a kick in the 1998 preseason. He was never the same player after that. He logged one year with the St. Louis Rams in 2003 at safety but was out of the league shortly thereafter.

    Sports Illustrated, however, pointed out that Sehorn wasn’t truly the last white cornerback. Here’s what it had to say:

    “To be fair, though, calling Sehorn the last of the white cornerbacks means ignoring the dozen or so snaps Dustin Fox played for the Eagles and the Bills in 2006 and ’07. It means overlooking Ethan Kilmer’s single magnificent snap as a corner for the Bengals in ’06, and it completely neglects another member of the Cincinnati secondary that season, the real Sehorn – the last white player to start a regular-season NFL game at the position.

    (For the record, the tight-knit cornerback fraternity seems to respect Patriots receiver Julian Edelman for the spot duty he pulled over 13 regular-season games in ’11).”

    So while it’s clear that not many players at the position are white, does that mean there are currently zero white cornerbacks in the league?

    Are there any white cornerbacks in the NFL right now?

    There are currently no white cornerbacks in the NFL. It’s unclear why there are no white players at the position, as essentially every other position has white players.

    It’s a mystery, but Sehorn was the last prominent white cornerback, with very few others sprinkled throughout the years in the interim between Sehorn’s retirement and now. Julian Edelman’s stint as a nickel corner represents the last one.

    The website Thank God It’s Saturday compiled a somewhat satirical countdown list of college football’s greatest white cornerbacks in the “hopes” of another one reaching the NFL. It’s a subject that comes up every few years and makes the rounds among fans and media.

    The NFL is a “win-now” league. Every team is trying to field the best possible team it can. If a white cornerback appeared tomorrow who was qualified to start for one of the league’s 32 teams, rest assured the player would get signed.

    The whites just don't have the hips. Genetic fact, allegedly.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    MelloDawg said:

    What a fascinating thread.

    I have to agree with Yellodawg here.

    This thread went south in a hurry.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,811 Standard Supporter
    Racial equality says blacks shooting only make up 13% of the NFL. Why isn't this being enforced?
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2021
    DoogieMcDoogerson said:

    Superior hip genetics. CB is all about the hips.

    The last well-known white cornerback was Jason Sehorn, formerly of the New York Giants. Sehorn played with the Giants from 1996 to 2002. Sehorn had two incredible seasons in 1996 and 1997 before tearing his ACL returning a kick in the 1998 preseason. He was never the same player after that. He logged one year with the St. Louis Rams in 2003 at safety but was out of the league shortly thereafter.

    Sports Illustrated, however, pointed out that Sehorn wasn’t truly the last white cornerback. Here’s what it had to say:

    “To be fair, though, calling Sehorn the last of the white cornerbacks means ignoring the dozen or so snaps Dustin Fox played for the Eagles and the Bills in 2006 and ’07. It means overlooking Ethan Kilmer’s single magnificent snap as a corner for the Bengals in ’06, and it completely neglects another member of the Cincinnati secondary that season, the real Sehorn – the last white player to start a regular-season NFL game at the position.

    (For the record, the tight-knit cornerback fraternity seems to respect Patriots receiver Julian Edelman for the spot duty he pulled over 13 regular-season games in ’11).”

    So while it’s clear that not many players at the position are white, does that mean there are currently zero white cornerbacks in the league?

    Are there any white cornerbacks in the NFL right now?

    There are currently no white cornerbacks in the NFL. It’s unclear why there are no white players at the position, as essentially every other position has white players.

    It’s a mystery, but Sehorn was the last prominent white cornerback, with very few others sprinkled throughout the years in the interim between Sehorn’s retirement and now. Julian Edelman’s stint as a nickel corner represents the last one.

    The website Thank God It’s Saturday compiled a somewhat satirical countdown list of college football’s greatest white cornerbacks in the “hopes” of another one reaching the NFL. It’s a subject that comes up every few years and makes the rounds among fans and media.

    The NFL is a “win-now” league. Every team is trying to field the best possible team it can. If a white cornerback appeared tomorrow who was qualified to start for one of the league’s 32 teams, rest assured the player would get signed.

    The whites just don't have the hips. Genetic fact, allegedly.

    So you're saying there are genetic differences between whites and blacks and in this case this is a genetic difference that benefits blacks. Are there any genetic differences that benefit whites or that might hinder blacks in some areas?
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,099


    Jason Sehorn's hips must have worked just well enough to bag Angie Harmon.

    Respect.

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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Gaybob just cries about everything because he's a whinycunt.

    Now watch him cry like a bitch some more in an attempt to prove me wrong.

    lol
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    dflea said:

    Gaybob just cries about everything because he's a whinycunt.

    Now watch him cry like a bitch some more in an attempt to prove me wrong.

    lol

    All you fucking do is cry like bitch flea. You should just create a tag line "You said something that made my snatch hurt" and post that for each of your responses. How am I crying Flea? Just because you're too fucking stupid to engage in an intelligent conversation doesn't mean I'm crying.

    Your fucking pathetic canned responses are the real examples of someone who is crying like a bitch.
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    Gaybob just cries about everything because he's a whinycunt.

    Now watch him cry like a bitch some more in an attempt to prove me wrong.

    lol

    All you fucking do is cry like bitch flea. You should just create a tag line "You said something that made my snatch hurt" and post that for each of your responses. How am I crying Flea? Just because you're too fucking stupid to engage in an intelligent conversation doesn't mean I'm crying.

    Your fucking pathetic canned responses are the real examples of someone who is crying like a bitch.
    lol

    Like clockwork, the crying bitch cries.

    Keep crying, Gaybob, you pathetic little bitch of a man.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    Gaybob just cries about everything because he's a whinycunt.

    Now watch him cry like a bitch some more in an attempt to prove me wrong.

    lol

    All you fucking do is cry like bitch flea. You should just create a tag line "You said something that made my snatch hurt" and post that for each of your responses. How am I crying Flea? Just because you're too fucking stupid to engage in an intelligent conversation doesn't mean I'm crying.

    Your fucking pathetic canned responses are the real examples of someone who is crying like a bitch.
    lol

    Like clockwork, the crying bitch cries.

    Keep crying, Gaybob, you pathetic little bitch of a man.
    Said the Kunt who came to this thread in order to cry like a bitch. What do you feel you've offered in this thread other than crying like a bitch Flea?
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    Gaybob just cries about everything because he's a whinycunt.

    Now watch him cry like a bitch some more in an attempt to prove me wrong.

    lol

    All you fucking do is cry like bitch flea. You should just create a tag line "You said something that made my snatch hurt" and post that for each of your responses. How am I crying Flea? Just because you're too fucking stupid to engage in an intelligent conversation doesn't mean I'm crying.

    Your fucking pathetic canned responses are the real examples of someone who is crying like a bitch.
    lol

    Like clockwork, the crying bitch cries.

    Keep crying, Gaybob, you pathetic little bitch of a man.
    Said the Kunt who came to this thread in order to cry like a bitch. What do you feel you've offered in this thread other than crying like a bitch Flea?
    More crying from the crying bitch. Keep it going, Gaybob. Or maybe start another thread so you can fit some crybaby tears in there.

    lol
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