Dick Cheney's Op-Ed
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I agree. I want more dead Americans so that religious extremists will shut their mouths. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will ever...topdawgnc said:If America had left 20,000 troops behind.
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Think you missed my point.Mad_Son said:
I agree. I want more dead Americans so that religious extremists will shut their mouths. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will ever...topdawgnc said:If America had left 20,000 troops behind.
Would ISIS be mocking the US President on The Twitter?
Would ISIS have invaded Iraq?
Correct me if wrong, but the violence had subsided in Iraq when Obama pulled the troops.
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topdawgnc said:
Think you missed my point.Mad_Son said:
I agree. I want more dead Americans so that religious extremists will shut their mouths. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will ever...topdawgnc said:If America had left 20,000 troops behind.
Would ISIS be mocking the US President on The Twitter?
Would ISIS have invaded Iraq?
Correct me if wrong, but the violence had subsided in Iraq when Obama pulled the troops.
20k troops would have been a deterrence.
I am not sure how the last two sentences support one another but it comes down to as an American I care about any given American more than every single Iraqi. I don't want to have soldiers die to try and build democracy in Iraq. The lines on the map are arbitary anyways and frankly I like the idea of a Kurdistan. Let them solve their problems by themselves and when they are civilized enough to interact with we can trade with them.
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Just glassify that shit already.
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Iraq needs to be Balkanized and left to its own endeavors. Let the Kurds have their own territory (instead of it being split into 4 countries), let the Sunni and Shi'ite idiots duke it out, and make sure the conflict doesn't leave the region.
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Meanwhile, Tyrone Willingham has written an op-ed piece condemning the coaching strategies of Steve Sarkisian
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The only problem with the whole idea of "let them battle it out" is that many of these groups have a long standing public opinion of trying to destroy the ways and means of the US and it's Allies.
I don't disagree that Cheney making the comments will get many to not pay attention to them. However, if you throw the article out there without paying attention to the author(s), you start thinking, yep, this makes sense.
The reality is that while I don't disagree that you do let a lot of what happens in that region play out on its own, you also have to have a presence and make sure that the focus of terrorists, and those that support them, are focused on the troops that are on the ground there instead of unarmed Americans across the world and in particular on our own soil. It's as if too many forget about 9/11 and the lessons that we SHOULD have learned from that.
I also don't disagree that any American life lost on the ground is a tragedy. But if you're asking me whether I'd rather have trained soldiers that are trained to protect and fight these people or general civilians be the victims, soldiers are paid to take said risks and it's the job that they sign up for. -
#neverforgetTequilla said:The only problem with the whole idea of "let them battle it out" is that many of these groups have a long standing public opinion of trying to destroy the ways and means of the US and it's Allies.
I don't disagree that Cheney making the comments will get many to not pay attention to them. However, if you throw the article out there without paying attention to the author(s), you start thinking, yep, this makes sense.
The reality is that while I don't disagree that you do let a lot of what happens in that region play out on its own, you also have to have a presence and make sure that the focus of terrorists, and those that support them, are focused on the troops that are on the ground there instead of unarmed Americans across the world and in particular on our own soil. It's as if too many forget about 9/11 and the lessons that we SHOULD have learned from that.
I also don't disagree that any American life lost on the ground is a tragedy. But if you're asking me whether I'd rather have trained soldiers that are trained to protect and fight these people or general civilians be the victims, soldiers are paid to take said risks and it's the job that they sign up for. -
Partly what Cheney missed: had Saddam Hussein not been driven from power and killed, he would still be keeping al queda in check. Secondly, he says we should learn from history. Fine. Pull out of vietnam and lose it to the enemy. Stay in Korea and keep it. History says you need to keep a contingent of troops in place. But that was never Bush's plan, as far as I know. We were told Iraq would be rebuilt and we'd leave. But that would never work.
