Dick Cheney's Op-Ed

DerekJohnson

online.wsj.com/articles/dick-cheney-and-liz-cheney-the-collapsing-obama-doctrine-1403046522

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TierbsHsotBoobs

TL, DR

doogsinparadise

Got as far as "hard fought gains in Iraq", and sprained my brain lolling.

LoneStarDawg

A little bit like Lambo talking shut about Neu's defense, but its amazing how much whiplash we're giving the world with our swinging foreign policy

Swaye

Great quote from the comments section:

"He's tanned. He's rested. He's ready. Dick Cheney for PRESIDENT."

Kaepsknee

online.wsj.com/articles/dick-cheney-and-liz-cheney-the-collapsing-obama-doctrine-1403046522

Obama has certainly screwed the pooch here.

But this is nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black here.

dnc

online.wsj.com/articles/dick-cheney-and-liz-cheney-the-collapsing-obama-doctrine-1403046522

Obama has certainly screwed the pooch here.

But this is nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black here.

Dick Cheney's black? Thank God.

WDWHA

DerekJohnson

online.wsj.com/articles/dick-cheney-and-liz-cheney-the-collapsing-obama-doctrine-1403046522

Obama has certainly screwed the pooch here.

But this is nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black here.

For Cheney to not take any responsibility is wrong, but he also makes several good points.

Kaepsknee

online.wsj.com/articles/dick-cheney-and-liz-cheney-the-collapsing-obama-doctrine-1403046522

Obama has certainly screwed the pooch here.

But this is nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black here.

For Cheney to not take any responsibility is wrong, but he also makes several good points.

I just have a problem with one of the drivers of the worst foreign policy decisions since Vietnam sitting back and trying to play Monday morning QB. Considering the false pretense and He being one of the very few rich, who benefitted from it all. And now given the huge chunk of the Mideast that is now Terror wonderland, the Iraq decision may end up biting the whole world in the butt.

The message may have merit but the messager should have been shot long ago.

#Notmuchcredibility from the Salem precinct.

mobey

Next let's hear what Carter has to say about controlling inflation....

What Nixon has to say about honesty...

What Clinton has to say about fidelity...

The worst kind of fucking fat, incompetent, narcissist and his rug licking spore, neither of which give a fuck about this country or especially our fighting men and women, beyond how they can be enriched by their exploitation.

When will that fucking fake heart stop?

topdawgnc

If America had left 20,000 troops behind.

Would ISIS be mocking the US President on The Twitter?

Mad_Son

If America had left 20,000 troops behind.

Would ISIS be mocking the US President on The Twitter?

I agree. I want more dead Americans so that religious extremists will shut their mouths. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will ever...

topdawgnc

If America had left 20,000 troops behind.

Would ISIS be mocking the US President on The Twitter?
I agree. I want more dead Americans so that religious extremists will shut their mouths. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will ever...

Think you missed my point.

Would ISIS have invaded Iraq?

Correct me if wrong, but the violence had subsided in Iraq when Obama pulled the troops.

20k troops would have been a deterrence.

Mad_Son

If America had left 20,000 troops behind.

Would ISIS be mocking the US President on The Twitter?
I agree. I want more dead Americans so that religious extremists will shut their mouths. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will ever...
Think you missed my point.

Would ISIS have invaded Iraq?

Correct me if wrong, but the violence had subsided in Iraq when Obama pulled the troops.

20k troops would have been a deterrence.

I am not sure how the last two sentences support one another but it comes down to as an American I care about any given American more than every single Iraqi. I don't want to have soldiers die to try and build democracy in Iraq. The lines on the map are arbitary anyways and frankly I like the idea of a Kurdistan. Let them solve their problems by themselves and when they are civilized enough to interact with we can trade with them.

#bringbacksaddam

PurpleJ

Just glassify that shit already.

PostGameOrangeSlices

Iraq needs to be Balkanized and left to its own endeavors. Let the Kurds have their own territory (instead of it being split into 4 countries), let the Sunni and Shi'ite idiots duke it out, and make sure the conflict doesn't leave the region.

May the best Muslim win.

bananasnblondes

Meanwhile, Tyrone Willingham has written an op-ed piece condemning the coaching strategies of Steve Sarkisian

Tequilla

The only problem with the whole idea of "let them battle it out" is that many of these groups have a long standing public opinion of trying to destroy the ways and means of the US and it's Allies.

I don't disagree that Cheney making the comments will get many to not pay attention to them. However, if you throw the article out there without paying attention to the author(s), you start thinking, yep, this makes sense.

The reality is that while I don't disagree that you do let a lot of what happens in that region play out on its own, you also have to have a presence and make sure that the focus of terrorists, and those that support them, are focused on the troops that are on the ground there instead of unarmed Americans across the world and in particular on our own soil. It's as if too many forget about 9/11 and the lessons that we SHOULD have learned from that.

I also don't disagree that any American life lost on the ground is a tragedy. But if you're asking me whether I'd rather have trained soldiers that are trained to protect and fight these people or general civilians be the victims, soldiers are paid to take said risks and it's the job that they sign up for.

MikeDamone

The only problem with the whole idea of "let them battle it out" is that many of these groups have a long standing public opinion of trying to destroy the ways and means of the US and it's Allies.

I don't disagree that Cheney making the comments will get many to not pay attention to them. However, if you throw the article out there without paying attention to the author(s), you start thinking, yep, this makes sense.

The reality is that while I don't disagree that you do let a lot of what happens in that region play out on its own, you also have to have a presence and make sure that the focus of terrorists, and those that support them, are focused on the troops that are on the ground there instead of unarmed Americans across the world and in particular on our own soil. It's as if too many forget about 9/11 and the lessons that we SHOULD have learned from that.

I also don't disagree that any American life lost on the ground is a tragedy. But if you're asking me whether I'd rather have trained soldiers that are trained to protect and fight these people or general civilians be the victims, soldiers are paid to take said risks and it's the job that they sign up for.

#neverforget

ApostleofGrief

Partly what Cheney missed: had Saddam Hussein not been driven from power and killed, he would still be keeping al queda in check. Secondly, he says we should learn from history. Fine. Pull out of vietnam and lose it to the enemy. Stay in Korea and keep it. History says you need to keep a contingent of troops in place. But that was never Bush's plan, as far as I know. We were told Iraq would be rebuilt and we'd leave. But that would never work.