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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    People leave countries to go to better countries all the time. Cuba has a dictatorship and the most powerful country in the world with its boot on their throat, I wouldn’t expect life to be great there.
    And there you have it, Cuba is a shithole but it's our fault.
  • PrestonluvPrestonluv Member Posts: 275

    People leave countries to go to better countries all the time. Cuba has a dictatorship and the most powerful country in the world with its boot on their throat, I wouldn’t expect life to be great there.

    Wtf?

    Those motherfuckers helped point nukes at us with serious intent to fire and are still under a similar dictatorship as they were 50 years ago.

    They dug their own grave. Blame Castro and Mother Russia.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    What is the main reason communism hasn't worked?
    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    I would say the main reason is because it aims to take power from the powerful. So you have situations where people can seize that power for themselves or where the already powerful can stomp it out to protect their power.
    True communism will never work because some people (me) are a lot more intelligent than others (you) and I’d never agree to a system where my business and electrician skills are paid the same as your booger-eating skills of sitting at home. Plus, someone is alway going to rule and live better, as has been shown every time Marxism has been the form of government in any society.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    True communism will never work because some people (me) are a lot more intelligent than others (you) and I’d never agree to a system where my business and electrician skills are paid the same as your booger-eating skills of sitting at home. Plus, someone is alway going to rule and live better, as has been shown every time Marxism has been the form of government in any society.
    You are, by far, the dumbest poster on this board.
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited January 2021

    You are, by far, the dumbest poster on this board.
    White flag

    Show me all of the people that have fled the USA to live under Communism. Intel workers in China don’t count.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,627
    Sledog said:


    There is nothing socialist about Nancy pelosi. She has been enriching herself for 40 years.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,008

    There is nothing socialist about Nancy pelosi. She has been enriching herself for 40 years.
    He's on a roll.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    No fucking shit. So when people like me get in charge of whats equal I'm for sure hooking up my friends and family.

    Then the starving fucks can give me their daughter for a few nights and I'll reward them with some bread and milk.
    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,808 Founders Club

    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Put up the money call the shots. Whatever the system
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Here piggy piggy.

    It doesn’t even work when kids are the society.

    Even the Yanomami have shamans, and there is no currency in their rainforest economy. Yet they still worship some weirdo who gets high all day long.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,627
    edited January 2021

    I can’t tell if you’re describing communism or capitalism.

    The key is democracy. Democratize the workplace. Have workers own the means of productions, not individuals, not the state.
    Workers are mostly shitty and retarded. If I could I would fire everyone but like 2 people and automate the rest.

    In your fantasy world people are competent. Spoiler. They aren't.


    In fact I'm about a week away from finishing our warehouse system build and I can finally fire 2 dumb fucks and replace them with minimum wage labor.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    Ever talked to someone who lived in or still is stuck in a communist country and asked them how they like it?
    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 24,008
    edited January 2021

    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    This, too, should be on the Finance board, but I'll allow it.

    Here's what I think:

    1. There is an interesting academic discussion to be had about Marxism. A small amount of what you have said would be relevant in that discussion.

    2. The most charitable read of communism is that it's a concept well before its time. That is, there may be a day when technology and human-knowledge is such that we have essentially eradicated scarcity w/o the need for market forces, are able to allocate resources perfectly, again w/o market forces, and basic human culture has evolved to a degree such that some of the basic individual motivators for innovation and value creation are not longer important and thus no longer ... given effect. My read of Marxist theory is more along those lines. If it ever happens, we probably won't really connect it back to Marx and it will be so long from now that it's really just good academic discourse ... exercise for the mind.

    3. This isn't the place to have that kind of discussion.

    4. As a practical matter, it's a waste of time to defend because it has failed so miserably.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    Have you ever read accounts from slaves owned in America? What about Native Americans? What about people from countries victim to America’s imperialism? Do you honestly think I can’t find people with bad things to say about capitalist countries?

    But you’ll never assign blame to capitalism. If something bad happens within a thousand miles of communism, it’s communism’s fault. Castro kills a bunch of people and communism bad but steal land from Native Americans and genocide them? All of the sudden it’s complicated and the economic system that demanded the land be taken, well, what’s that got to do with anything.
    You’re still stuck in a 1619 project, middle school level world view. Communism is far worse and more terrifying than any system. Hey guess what, in the history of the world there have been shitty things that happened, so that means capitalism is bad and we need to replace it with something worse that has failed everywhere! Deflect all you want, no one enjoys living under the boot of communism.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 36,987 Standard Supporter

    There is nothing socialist about Nancy pelosi. She has been enriching herself for 40 years.
    True but she's pursuing the cart.
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