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College Football Matrix to Oregon Ducks and UW Huskies: Hire Tim DeRuyter from Cal

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  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-oregon-hiring-tim-deruyter-as-new-defensive-coordinator/

    Mario said he hired Andy Avalos after he was impressed by the defense that beat him.

    Repeat.

    If you think this is a stupid way to find new coordinators... You’re right. But at least he didn’t hire the Willingham Search Firm.
  • dOgmaster
    dOgmaster Member Posts: 589
    Hearing Oregon hired DeRuyter.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,048

    https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-oregon-hiring-tim-deruyter-as-new-defensive-coordinator/

    Mario said he hired Andy Avalos after he was impressed by the defense that beat him.

    Repeat.

    If you think this is a stupid way to find new coordinators... You’re right. But at least he didn’t hire the Willingham Search Firm.

    Avalos' body of work was pretty solid. I don't follow them closely enough to quote stats and rankings; but from a dead reckoning standpoint, they seemed to have gotten better on his watch.

    The issue with Oregon, then and now, relates to what somebody else wrote about Washington's roster: while there is clearly elite talent at several positions on the field, there are also holes. In Oregon's case, they don't have enough above-average D linemen, and it's been an obvious hole in their recruiting. Note I'm not including Tibedough in that assessment. He's a beast. But if Jordan Scott is still in your starting lineup, you know you have a short-fall at that position.

    And that's an important point IMO: over the years of watching cfb, it has been my rather obvious observation that impact D linemen make everybody on the field behind them, as well as all the coaches in the booth, look good. Yeah Avalos had other good players, but Oregon's ability to bring pressure on the interior line, and stuff the run, has been average at best the last few seasons.

    Mario should be all in on that position; problem is, unlike DBs and linebackers, great D linemen do not grow on trees.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-oregon-hiring-tim-deruyter-as-new-defensive-coordinator/

    Mario said he hired Andy Avalos after he was impressed by the defense that beat him.

    Repeat.

    If you think this is a stupid way to find new coordinators... You’re right. But at least he didn’t hire the Willingham Search Firm.

    Avalos' body of work was pretty solid. I don't follow them closely enough to quote stats and rankings; but from a dead reckoning standpoint, they seemed to have gotten better on his watch.

    The issue with Oregon, then and now, relates to what somebody else wrote about Washington's roster: while there is clearly elite talent at several positions on the field, there are also holes. In Oregon's case, they don't have enough above-average D linemen, and it's been an obvious hole in their recruiting. Note I'm not including Tibedough in that assessment. He's a beast. But if Jordan Scott is still in your starting lineup, you know you have a short-fall at that position.

    And that's an important point IMO: over the years of watching cfb, it has been my rather obvious observation that impact D linemen make everybody on the field behind them, as well as all the coaches in the booth, look good. Yeah Avalos had other good players, but Oregon's ability to bring pressure on the interior line, and stuff the run, has been average at best the last few seasons.

    Mario should be all in on that position; problem is, unlike DBs and linebackers, great D linemen do not grow on trees.
    You don’t need great talent from a skill set at interior line. Just recruit a 350-375 pound fat ass, and let him be an immovable object.
  • dOgmaster
    dOgmaster Member Posts: 589
    I was looking at Dave Bartoo’s twitter page and ran across some posts talking about Yary (got arrested??, never heard that), Smalls (no clarity on why he is mentioned), and Puka may transfer (first I have heard, but came from a husky that said its not yet official).
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,048

    https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-oregon-hiring-tim-deruyter-as-new-defensive-coordinator/

    Mario said he hired Andy Avalos after he was impressed by the defense that beat him.

    Repeat.

    If you think this is a stupid way to find new coordinators... You’re right. But at least he didn’t hire the Willingham Search Firm.

    Avalos' body of work was pretty solid. I don't follow them closely enough to quote stats and rankings; but from a dead reckoning standpoint, they seemed to have gotten better on his watch.

    The issue with Oregon, then and now, relates to what somebody else wrote about Washington's roster: while there is clearly elite talent at several positions on the field, there are also holes. In Oregon's case, they don't have enough above-average D linemen, and it's been an obvious hole in their recruiting. Note I'm not including Tibedough in that assessment. He's a beast. But if Jordan Scott is still in your starting lineup, you know you have a short-fall at that position.

    And that's an important point IMO: over the years of watching cfb, it has been my rather obvious observation that impact D linemen make everybody on the field behind them, as well as all the coaches in the booth, look good. Yeah Avalos had other good players, but Oregon's ability to bring pressure on the interior line, and stuff the run, has been average at best the last few seasons.

    Mario should be all in on that position; problem is, unlike DBs and linebackers, great D linemen do not grow on trees.
    You don’t need great talent from a skill set at interior line. Just recruit a 350-375 pound fat ass, and let him be an immovable object.
    Yeah, one guy like that is helpful. But you need dynamic athletes who can get off the ball and beat their guy to be an elite and consistent defense.
  • Bonedog
    Bonedog Member Posts: 650

    Emoterman said:
    I don’t see why Jimmy has to nail the new hire, that seems really unprofessional. I don’t run a statistic based consulting service though, so I could be wrong. Maybe Saban does the same, and that’s why they’re all afraid of him.
    Poor OC hire? Fuck Jon Don called 4 games so far 😉😉
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Bonedog said:

    Emoterman said:
    I don’t see why Jimmy has to nail the new hire, that seems really unprofessional. I don’t run a statistic based consulting service though, so I could be wrong. Maybe Saban does the same, and that’s why they’re all afraid of him.
    Poor OC hire? Fuck Jon Don called 4 games so far 😉😉
    And the offense showed up in the first half of one of them.
  • Bonedog
    Bonedog Member Posts: 650
    dnc said:

    Bonedog said:

    Emoterman said:
    I don’t see why Jimmy has to nail the new hire, that seems really unprofessional. I don’t run a statistic based consulting service though, so I could be wrong. Maybe Saban does the same, and that’s why they’re all afraid of him.
    Poor OC hire? Fuck Jon Don called 4 games so far 😉😉
    And the offense showed up in the first half of one of them.
    We are full
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Bonedog said:

    Emoterman said:
    I don’t see why Jimmy has to nail the new hire, that seems really unprofessional. I don’t run a statistic based consulting service though, so I could be wrong. Maybe Saban does the same, and that’s why they’re all afraid of him.
    Poor OC hire? Fuck Jon Don called 4 games so far 😉😉
    And the offense showed up in the first half of one of them.
    Rick's teams always start slow and have to mount comebacks

    Dawgman circa 2000
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    Bonedog said:

    Emoterman said:
    I don’t see why Jimmy has to nail the new hire, that seems really unprofessional. I don’t run a statistic based consulting service though, so I could be wrong. Maybe Saban does the same, and that’s why they’re all afraid of him.
    Poor OC hire? Fuck Jon Don called 4 games so far 😉😉
    He’s had the job for a year, that should have been more than enough time for Jimmy to nail him.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited January 2021

    https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-oregon-hiring-tim-deruyter-as-new-defensive-coordinator/

    Mario said he hired Andy Avalos after he was impressed by the defense that beat him.

    Repeat.

    If you think this is a stupid way to find new coordinators... You’re right. But at least he didn’t hire the Willingham Search Firm.

    Avalos' body of work was pretty solid. I don't follow them closely enough to quote stats and rankings; but from a dead reckoning standpoint, they seemed to have gotten better on his watch.

    The issue with Oregon, then and now, relates to what somebody else wrote about Washington's roster: while there is clearly elite talent at several positions on the field, there are also holes. In Oregon's case, they don't have enough above-average D linemen, and it's been an obvious hole in their recruiting. Note I'm not including Tibedough in that assessment. He's a beast. But if Jordan Scott is still in your starting lineup, you know you have a short-fall at that position.

    And that's an important point IMO: over the years of watching cfb, it has been my rather obvious observation that impact D linemen make everybody on the field behind them, as well as all the coaches in the booth, look good. Yeah Avalos had other good players, but Oregon's ability to bring pressure on the interior line, and stuff the run, has been average at best the last few seasons.

    Mario should be all in on that position; problem is, unlike DBs and linebackers, great D linemen do not grow on trees.
    The recruiting there is good enough. It’s that 11/14 DL are in the last two classes.