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Early look at UW Oregon

RaceBannon
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  • MakaDawg
    MakaDawg Member Posts: 492



    Wffo?

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  • TommySQC
    TommySQC Member Posts: 5,813
    Fuck Jimmy and Sloppy Tits for letting this happen. This was UWs to own and they fucked it. No wonder recruits aren't flocking here.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,273
    Race does it again!!!
  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    I like the MUTTS in this one!
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,210 Standard Supporter
    Oregon is going to kick our ass. The defense is a fucking joke.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045
    If you? don't score at will on Oregon, Lake is not your guy.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    The cool part is that no one will be ranked and no one will watch it as it no doubt gets relegated to FS2.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800



    Tyler Shough is going to get eaten alive by the Washington secondary. Or he might go for 300 passing and 100 rushing with 5 TDs. Probably the first one. Find out next week on “Retard or Not” my favorite Saturday night activity.

    Is that from TV Guide?
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    The dreckfest bowl
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    I take back the part I said about a Shough throwing or running for anything. Please strike that from the record.

    This is just unbelievable. The only thing I hope he passes is the worlds largest kidney stone.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
    edited December 2020
    Doesn't winner of the game win the north, regardless of if the ducks beat cal tonight?

    Kind of convoluted...

    The winner of each Division will be determined by the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    In determining the divisional champions, the following will apply: If any team(s) has not played six (6) Conference games (due to not being able to reschedule a postponed Conference game) and any team(s) is within one Conference win from the team(s) with the highest conference winning percentage AND has an equal number of losses, those teams shall be declared tied.


    The following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head results
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Determination of Championship Game Host

    The home team in the Pac-12 Championship Game will be determined by the record in all Conference games. In the event of a tie, the following procedures will be applied to determine the home team:

    Head-to-head competition, if applicable
    Record against the next highest-placed common opponent in the Conference (based on recording all games played within the Conference) proceeding through the Conference
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Tiebreak Procedures to Determine Conference Championship Participations if Average Number of Conference Games Falls To 4 OR Below (Unbalanced Conference Schedule)

    In the event that the average number of conference games falls to 4 or below, the two teams with the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference will participate in the Pac- 12 Football Championship Game (regardless of division affiliation). In order for teams to be considered in a tie-break scenario, teams must play no less than one fewer conference game than the average number of conference games played by all conference teams (rounded up/down at .50). For example, if the average number of conference games played in the 2020 season is 4.25 (value of 4 when rounded down) a team would be eligible to participate in the Pac-12 Football Championship Game if that team played 3 conference games.

    Under this scenario, the participants in Pac-12 Football Championship Game will be determined by the best winning percentage within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    If the teams remain tied, the following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Doesn't winner of the game win the north, regardless of if the ducks beat cal tonight?

    Kind of convoluted...

    The winner of each Division will be determined by the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    In determining the divisional champions, the following will apply: If any team(s) has not played six (6) Conference games (due to not being able to reschedule a postponed Conference game) and any team(s) is within one Conference win from the team(s) with the highest conference winning percentage AND has an equal number of losses, those teams shall be declared tied.


    The following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head results
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Determination of Championship Game Host

    The home team in the Pac-12 Championship Game will be determined by the record in all Conference games. In the event of a tie, the following procedures will be applied to determine the home team:

    Head-to-head competition, if applicable
    Record against the next highest-placed common opponent in the Conference (based on recording all games played within the Conference) proceeding through the Conference
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Tiebreak Procedures to Determine Conference Championship Participations if Average Number of Conference Games Falls To 4 OR Below (Unbalanced Conference Schedule)

    In the event that the average number of conference games falls to 4 or below, the two teams with the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference will participate in the Pac- 12 Football Championship Game (regardless of division affiliation). In order for teams to be considered in a tie-break scenario, teams must play no less than one fewer conference game than the average number of conference games played by all conference teams (rounded up/down at .50). For example, if the average number of conference games played in the 2020 season is 4.25 (value of 4 when rounded down) a team would be eligible to participate in the Pac-12 Football Championship Game if that team played 3 conference games.

    Under this scenario, the participants in Pac-12 Football Championship Game will be determined by the best winning percentage within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    If the teams remain tied, the following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss

    If Oregon loses tonight and wins next week and WSU wins this week and next I'm not sure what happens then. I think Oregon wins the conference but I'm not clear on it.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
    dnc said:

    Doesn't winner of the game win the north, regardless of if the ducks beat cal tonight?

    Kind of convoluted...

    The winner of each Division will be determined by the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    In determining the divisional champions, the following will apply: If any team(s) has not played six (6) Conference games (due to not being able to reschedule a postponed Conference game) and any team(s) is within one Conference win from the team(s) with the highest conference winning percentage AND has an equal number of losses, those teams shall be declared tied.


    The following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head results
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Determination of Championship Game Host

    The home team in the Pac-12 Championship Game will be determined by the record in all Conference games. In the event of a tie, the following procedures will be applied to determine the home team:

    Head-to-head competition, if applicable
    Record against the next highest-placed common opponent in the Conference (based on recording all games played within the Conference) proceeding through the Conference
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Tiebreak Procedures to Determine Conference Championship Participations if Average Number of Conference Games Falls To 4 OR Below (Unbalanced Conference Schedule)

    In the event that the average number of conference games falls to 4 or below, the two teams with the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference will participate in the Pac- 12 Football Championship Game (regardless of division affiliation). In order for teams to be considered in a tie-break scenario, teams must play no less than one fewer conference game than the average number of conference games played by all conference teams (rounded up/down at .50). For example, if the average number of conference games played in the 2020 season is 4.25 (value of 4 when rounded down) a team would be eligible to participate in the Pac-12 Football Championship Game if that team played 3 conference games.

    Under this scenario, the participants in Pac-12 Football Championship Game will be determined by the best winning percentage within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    If the teams remain tied, the following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss

    If Oregon loses tonight and wins next week and WSU wins this week and next I'm not sure what happens then. I think Oregon wins the conference but I'm not clear on it.
    I don't think WSU will have enough games:

    "In determining the divisional champions, the following will apply: If any team(s) has not played six (6) Conference games (due to not being able to reschedule a postponed Conference game) and any team(s) is within one Conference win from the team(s) with the highest conference winning percentage AND has an equal number of losses, those teams shall be declared tied. "
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dnc said:

    Doesn't winner of the game win the north, regardless of if the ducks beat cal tonight?

    Kind of convoluted...

    The winner of each Division will be determined by the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    In determining the divisional champions, the following will apply: If any team(s) has not played six (6) Conference games (due to not being able to reschedule a postponed Conference game) and any team(s) is within one Conference win from the team(s) with the highest conference winning percentage AND has an equal number of losses, those teams shall be declared tied.


    The following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head results
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in games played within the division
    Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Determination of Championship Game Host

    The home team in the Pac-12 Championship Game will be determined by the record in all Conference games. In the event of a tie, the following procedures will be applied to determine the home team:

    Head-to-head competition, if applicable
    Record against the next highest-placed common opponent in the Conference (based on recording all games played within the Conference) proceeding through the Conference
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Tiebreak Procedures to Determine Conference Championship Participations if Average Number of Conference Games Falls To 4 OR Below (Unbalanced Conference Schedule)

    In the event that the average number of conference games falls to 4 or below, the two teams with the best winning percentage (both divisional and cross-divisional) within the conference will participate in the Pac- 12 Football Championship Game (regardless of division affiliation). In order for teams to be considered in a tie-break scenario, teams must play no less than one fewer conference game than the average number of conference games played by all conference teams (rounded up/down at .50). For example, if the average number of conference games played in the 2020 season is 4.25 (value of 4 when rounded down) a team would be eligible to participate in the Pac-12 Football Championship Game if that team played 3 conference games.

    Under this scenario, the participants in Pac-12 Football Championship Game will be determined by the best winning percentage within the conference. In the event of an unbalanced schedule where there is a tie for the best record in the loss column, head-to-head results will take precedence over winning percentage.

    If the teams remain tied, the following procedures will be applied to determine the Pac-12 Championship Game representatives:

    Two-Team Tie

    Head-to-head
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (Team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss
    Multiple-Team Ties

    The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two- team tiebreaking procedure will be applied:

    Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    Record in common Conference games
    Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s conference opponents
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games
    Coin toss

    If Oregon loses tonight and wins next week and WSU wins this week and next I'm not sure what happens then. I think Oregon wins the conference but I'm not clear on it.
    What about if OSU wins out and Oregon beats UW?

    2020 is all about the Beavs reppin the North.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,374 Founders Club
    We want Colorado
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
    edited December 2020
    My point was if Washington wins, they win the North. If Washington loses against the zeros, yes lots of shit could happen.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    ZTF will go ham and Shough will shit the bed.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    However, the midget sidearm thrower might give us a turnover.
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800
    TTJ said:


    You’re going to destroy Oregon and win the north. Did you have different goals for the season?

  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
    Perhaps our apple cup dominance had nothing to do with WSU and Mike Leach. Perhaps we just know how to FINISH!?!?!?!!!!!!


  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,750 Founders Club
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited December 2020
    lawsandl said:

    However, the midget sidearm thrower might give us a turnover.

    Probably
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    I’ve done the Pac-12 tiebreaker logic puzzle. They didn’t expect this many canceled games when they drew this up.

    Wazzu’s game against USC tomorrow and Beavlets game against Utah tonight still matter.

    If 4-1 Washington and 3-1 Wazzu both win out they are tied for first. Washington wins on tie breaker

    If Washington loses and Wazzu is 3-1 then Wazzu wins.

    Then it gets complicated. If Oregon wins out and Wazzu loses 1/2 they win, unless there is a multi team tie that involves Oregon State. It gets even worse from there.

    Everyone except Cal can finish tied for first, only Washington controls their destiny and even that could be challenged if Wazzu finished 3-1.


    I’d assume they’d give it to UW. 4-1 > 3-1 and too bad coogs it’s a weird year.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,506
    edited December 2020
    If WSU Wins out and UW beats Oregon, here are the tiebreakers.

    1. Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams)
    2. Record in games played within the division


    Stop right there. Kind of ambiguous. UW would be 2-1, WSU would be 3-1

    3. Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all games played within the Conference), proceeding through the division
    4. Record in common Conference games
    5. Team with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) ranking
    6. Cumulative winning percentage of each tied team’s Conference opponents
    7. Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics following the last weekend of regular-season games

  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557

    I’ve done the Pac-12 tiebreaker logic puzzle. They didn’t expect this many canceled games when they drew this up.

    Wazzu’s game against USC tomorrow and Beavlets game against Utah tonight still matter.

    If 4-1 Washington and 3-1 Wazzu both win out they are tied for first. Washington wins on tie breaker

    If Washington loses and Wazzu is 3-1 then Wazzu wins.

    Then it gets complicated. If Oregon wins out and Wazzu loses 1/2 they win, unless there is a multi team tie that involves Oregon State. It gets even worse from there.

    Everyone except Cal can finish tied for first, only Washington controls their destiny and even that could be challenged if Wazzu finished 3-1.


    I’d assume they’d give it to UW. 4-1 > 3-1 and too bad coogs it’s a weird year.
    Number of wins as long as it’s +\- within one doesn’t matter. Losses are what counts. 4-1 is the same as 3-1 in the tie breaker scenario.

    Washington would get the tie breaker because they would have the head to head over the next highest placed division team. Both beat Beavlet, Wazzu didn’t play Stanford, and Cal can’t finish above Stanford. That means Oregon.
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    edited December 2020
    I should add that as long as Wazzu is within +\- 1 game of the average number of games played by conference teams. That number is 4.8 or something so teams must play at least 4.