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  • Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,773
    chuck said:

    Davis is probably the great back in waiting. He's just not better than the others by a wide enough margin to take their reps yet. I think the running game would be a little better than it is right now if they only went two deep and he was the feature guy the whole time. He'd be a doog hero by now.

    Just speculating. I like them all but think he's the only one with special potential.
    Without facing a series of OOC patsies its hard to break in young guys at RB if you have pretty decent upperclassmen, in this case about three.

    There have already been a number of high-pressure situations for the offense which are not ideal learning opportunities.

    Consider that Morris almost turned it over 4 times last night, you are looking for security at the skill positions.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,546 Swaye's Wigwam

    Without facing a series of OOC patsies its hard to break in young guys at RB if you have pretty decent upperclassmen, in this case about three.

    There have already been a number of high-pressure situations for the offense which are not ideal learning opportunities.

    Consider that Morris almost turned it over 4 times last night, you are looking for security at the skill positions.
    Well said. I completely agree.

    I think Davis would be on a Chris Polk as a sophomore starter type level if he had been on a similar depth chart.
  • godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,541 Founders Club

    2000 team had Tui. You? had Brownsocks. At the most important position on the field, 2000 has 2016 by an immeasurable distance.

    I'll take Tui and a coach who didn't joke under the big lights in a close one.
    Vita and Greg would have single handidly blown up the triple option the 2000 team kept running.

    Marques fakes the dive, goes down the line sees Victor and Bierra ready to take him down for a 3 yard loss and if he tries to pitch it to the rb, Budda is ready to tackle him for a 5 yard loss.

    The 2016 team blows out the 2000 team easily.

  • dannarcdannarc Member Posts: 2,634
    I was there, man!

    2000 wins, they had more heart, played better together and did way better under pressure
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,862
    godawgst said:

    Vita and Greg would have single handidly blown up the triple option the 2000 team kept running.

    Marques fakes the dive, goes down the line sees Victor and Bierra ready to take him down for a 3 yard loss and if he tries to pitch it to the rb, Budda is ready to tackle him for a 5 yard loss.

    The 2016 team blows out the 2000 team easily.

    It's not an irrational take. But you are glossing over a lot of good O lineman on the 2000 team, a great QB who had a few more tricks in his bag than pitching the ball, and the effects of a talented, mean and aggressive defense on a QB who couldn't keep his pants clean under pressure (from far lesser opponents), and the 2000 defense would have supplied some.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,862

    This is a fair rebuttal. The 2000 team always found a way. There are still so many spots they would seemingly get destroyed by the 2016 team.

    We crushed teams running the ball with Sample and Dissly. The 2016 defense is way better than 2000. Triplett, Pharms, Daniels, and Akbar are the only guys that could start on the 2016 team.
    Vontoure.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,077 Founders Club
    Ima Ride-or-Die with the 2000 team. They could handle the pressure and dish it out. Tui had too many talents and that Jordan-esque will to win. 2000 was the last of the BAMF defenses from the 90s.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,695 Founders Club

    Vontoure.
    Over Jones and King?
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,077 Founders Club
    edited November 2020
    dnc said:

    That defense was pretty good butt far from BAMF.

    2016 was a much better defense.

    2000 play under pressure>>>2016 play under pressure


    I take mental toughness over talent every. day. of the week.

    2000 had it in spades, it was a muscle exercised week in and week out. they knew they would overcome.

    no better example in my lifetim than the last 1:04 of '00 Stanford (i know, not defense, but still ..)
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    2000 play under pressure>>>2016 play under pressure

    A already covered Tui versus Browning.

    2000 was clutch because Tui was clutch. 2016 was not because Browning was Brownsox.

    Tha's why I said 2000 wins any close game but 2016 wins the blowouts.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,077 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    A already covered Tui versus Browning.

    2000 was clutch because Tui was clutch. 2016 was not because Browning was Brownsox.

    Tha's why I said 2000 wins any close game but 2016 wins the blowouts.
    poont of order: I'm talking the under on whatever percentage of gaymes you think would be a blowout
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827
    pawz said:

    poont of order: I'm talking the under on whatever percentage of gaymes you think would be a blowout
    If they played 10 times the o/u is 5 2016 blowouts and 5 2000 squeekers
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