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Another Trump's appeal bitch slapped

AOG
AOG Member Posts: 2,674

NEW: The Trump campaign has lost again in its Pennsylvania case — the 3rd Circuit rejected its appeal.

Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump nominee, eviscerates Trump's case from top to bottom: "The Campaign’s claims have no merit."https://t.co/3NJzsJPiTX pic.twitter.com/xbGg9qze4U

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) November 27, 2020
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,674
    HHusky said:

    “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

    Rudy won't lie so much in court filings. All 3 of the judges are conservative. The "big lie" only works so far!
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,674

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,849
    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    edited November 2020

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
    If appears so.


    That would be highly unusual as affadavits are admissible evidence and also contain perjury disclosure.

    Unless the Dazzler prepared them, then who know what the fuck they may contain.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    It’s very cute when they learn new words and phrases, like “affidavit” and “banana republic”, and have no clue what they mean.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    edited November 2020

    It’s very cute when they learn new words and phrases, like “affidavit” and “banana republic”, and have no clue what they mean.

    At your advanced age, how many legal proceedings have you been involved in?

    And how many affidavits have you signed?
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,849
    edited November 2020

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
    If there’s no perjury language, sure. To be fair, I haven’t seen the affidavits so it may have the language in it. Semantics really at this point in the argument over whether or not it’s evidence.

    Anyway, I’m sure they’ll be admitted and argued and all that.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    MelloDawg said:

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
    If there’s no perjury language, sure. To be fair, I haven’t seen the affidavits so it may have the language in it. Semantics really at this point in the argument over whether or not it’s evidence.

    Anyway, I’m sure they’ll be admitted and argued and all that.
    So you’re talking out of your ass and trying to pass it off as fact.

    Good to know.
  • Duckwithabone
    Duckwithabone Member Posts: 272

    MelloDawg said:

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
    If there’s no perjury language, sure. To be fair, I haven’t seen the affidavits so it may have the language in it. Semantics really at this point in the argument over whether or not it’s evidence.

    Anyway, I’m sure they’ll be admitted and argued and all that.
    So you’re talking out of your ass and trying to pass it off as fact.

    Good to know.
    This is absolutely rich coming from a Trumpbro.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078

    MelloDawg said:

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
    If there’s no perjury language, sure. To be fair, I haven’t seen the affidavits so it may have the language in it. Semantics really at this point in the argument over whether or not it’s evidence.

    Anyway, I’m sure they’ll be admitted and argued and all that.
    So you’re talking out of your ass and trying to pass it off as fact.

    Good to know.
    This is absolutely rich coming from a Trumpbro.
    Go ahead and explain affidavits in your own words. Speak to their legal standing in the courts.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,674
    Most of the news of affidavits alleging fraud are like "somebody said BLM and somebody else said something," just vague attributions of some kind of malfeasance; ie., biased speculations and conjectures. To pull off a fraud that would get a president elected would be about like knocking over a dozen Ft. Knox's. The problem is all states do this differently, there are lots of checks and audits involved. It would have to be a multi-state crime. Impossible.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    AOG said:

    Most of the news of affidavits alleging fraud are like "somebody said BLM and somebody else said something," just vague attributions of some kind of malfeasance; ie., biased speculations and conjectures. To pull off a fraud that would get a president elected would be about like knocking over a dozen Ft. Knox's. The problem is all states do this differently, there are lots of checks and audits involved. It would have to be a multi-state crime. Impossible.

    So your contention is also the providers of the affidavits are committing perjury? On a massive scale under penalty of imprisonment.

    Because Fort Knox.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078

    MelloDawg said:

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
    If there’s no perjury language, sure. To be fair, I haven’t seen the affidavits so it may have the language in it. Semantics really at this point in the argument over whether or not it’s evidence.

    Anyway, I’m sure they’ll be admitted and argued and all that.
    So you’re talking out of your ass and trying to pass it off as fact.

    Good to know.
    This is absolutely rich coming from a Trumpbro.
    If you think this is about Trump, you're about as bright as the Dazzler.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,674

    AOG said:

    Most of the news of affidavits alleging fraud are like "somebody said BLM and somebody else said something," just vague attributions of some kind of malfeasance; ie., biased speculations and conjectures. To pull off a fraud that would get a president elected would be about like knocking over a dozen Ft. Knox's. The problem is all states do this differently, there are lots of checks and audits involved. It would have to be a multi-state crime. Impossible.

    So your contention is also the providers of the affidavits are committing perjury? On a massive scale under penalty of imprisonment.

    Because Fort Knox.
    Well, no, I did not say that. It might be that they observed somebody say they liked BLM or that a box was left sitting for suspiciously long time. But a lot of basically normal variances do not make for a massive fraud and stolen election.

    Of course, Trumptards with their malfunctioning brains can't weight the circumstances correctly.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,849

    MelloDawg said:

    MelloDawg said:

    AOG said:

    Wait til Trump gets his judges in there! Oh wait..

    The Trumptards are silent on this. Silly "hearings" in hotel conference centers are not legal cases! -- although the Rudy/Trump liar team try to conflate the two, it ain't going to cut it.
    Additionally, 1,700,492 affidavits that weren’t made under penalty of perjury also are not evidence.
    Is your contention that affidavits do not contain disclosures and affirmation of perjury penalties?



    Is @MelloDawg saying that sworn first-hand affidavits presented to a court as evidence are exempt from perjury charges? Is that what he’s saying?
    If there’s no perjury language, sure. To be fair, I haven’t seen the affidavits so it may have the language in it. Semantics really at this point in the argument over whether or not it’s evidence.

    Anyway, I’m sure they’ll be admitted and argued and all that.
    So you’re talking out of your ass and trying to pass it off as fact.

    Good to know.
    I get my strategy on rhetoric from Rudy.

    $20k/day please.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    Most of the news of affidavits alleging fraud are like "somebody said BLM and somebody else said something," just vague attributions of some kind of malfeasance; ie., biased speculations and conjectures. To pull off a fraud that would get a president elected would be about like knocking over a dozen Ft. Knox's. The problem is all states do this differently, there are lots of checks and audits involved. It would have to be a multi-state crime. Impossible.

    So your contention is also the providers of the affidavits are committing perjury? On a massive scale under penalty of imprisonment.

    Because Fort Knox.
    Well, no, I did not say that. It might be that they observed somebody say they liked BLM or that a box was left sitting for suspiciously long time. But a lot of basically normal variances do not make for a massive fraud and stolen election.

    Of course, Trumptards with their malfunctioning brains can't weight the circumstances correctly.
    Nothing to see here...move along.

    Classic.

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    It’s very cute when they learn new words and phrases, like “affidavit” and “banana republic”, and have no clue what they mean.

    At your advanced age, how many legal proceedings have you been involved in?

    And how many affidavits have you signed?
    Adorable.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,078
    edited November 2020

    It’s very cute when they learn new words and phrases, like “affidavit” and “banana republic”, and have no clue what they mean.

    At your advanced age, how many legal proceedings have you been involved in?

    And how many affidavits have you signed?
    Adorable.
    So go ahead - share with the class your vast legal experience and explanation of affadavits as it relates to the discovery and evidentiary process under the US legal system.

    You guys like to talk a lot of shit but literally know-nothing when it comes to how the courts work.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,766 Standard Supporter
    Plenty of lawsuits left. Not worried.

    Plenty of shit coming to light that the left cheated on a massive scale but you maroons are good with that. When are country is full of self serving dipshits it isn't really a nation of laws anymore for the dipshit side. We'll get it straightened out one way or another.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,010 Standard Supporter
    AOG said:

    Most of the news of affidavits alleging fraud are like "somebody said BLM and somebody else said something," just vague attributions of some kind of malfeasance; ie., biased speculations and conjectures. To pull off a fraud that would get a president elected would be about like knocking over a dozen Ft. Knox's. The problem is all states do this differently, there are lots of checks and audits involved. It would have to be a multi-state crime. Impossible.

    Please, by all means, provide the proof that it was just "somebody said BLM" or "just vague attributions".

    I am sure you like all the big words but providing proof would validate your bullshit don't you think?
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,849
    Sledog said:

    Plenty of lawsuits left. Not worried.

    Plenty of shit coming to light that the left cheated on a massive scale but you maroons are good with that. When are country is full of self serving dipshits it isn't really a nation of laws anymore for the dipshit side. We'll get it straightened out one way or another.

    Well then I look forward to the smoking gun that’s sure to be presented in a court of law that will prove this. It’s coming, right?

    Do you have an estimate of when you WILL be worried?
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,674
    It seems like you Trumptards would eventually just conclude what the entire world already has known for weeks.

    YOU FUCKING LOST THE ELECTION
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,766 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    Sledog said:

    Plenty of lawsuits left. Not worried.

    Plenty of shit coming to light that the left cheated on a massive scale but you maroons are good with that. When are country is full of self serving dipshits it isn't really a nation of laws anymore for the dipshit side. We'll get it straightened out one way or another.

    Well then I look forward to the smoking gun that’s sure to be presented in a court of law that will prove this. It’s coming, right?

    Do you have an estimate of when you WILL be worried?
    Lot's of time as well since the results are such a mess. 780% over vote in some precincts? How can an election committee explain stuff like that. Glad you commies like legal elections.
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,674


    Here's more "fraud" for you. After Trump claimed fraud in Milwaukee, a recount today concluded showing he lost by about 100 more than the first count. It would be nice if you Trumptards had a critical thinking facility.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,766 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2020
    AOG said:



    Here's more "fraud" for you. After Trump claimed fraud in Milwaukee, a recount today concluded showing he lost by about 100 more than the first count. It would be nice if you Trumptards had a critical thinking facility.

    It'd be nice if they counted just the legal votes.

    Commies sure are stupid. But one has to be to want that system.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sledog said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Sledog said:

    Plenty of lawsuits left. Not worried.

    Plenty of shit coming to light that the left cheated on a massive scale but you maroons are good with that. When are country is full of self serving dipshits it isn't really a nation of laws anymore for the dipshit side. We'll get it straightened out one way or another.

    Well then I look forward to the smoking gun that’s sure to be presented in a court of law that will prove this. It’s coming, right?

    Do you have an estimate of when you WILL be worried?
    Lot's of time as well since the results are such a mess. 780% over vote in some precincts? How can an election committee explain stuff like that. Glad you commies like legal elections.
    I explain it like this.

    It didn't happen, and you're full of shit and stupid.