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The California Governor's mansion is for sermon seekers

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    That's a good answer.
    agree
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Sledog said:

    I arrested people for crimes. That's the work a cop does. I did not and never would follow any unconstitutional order.
    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter


    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
    I think the point is, being told to go bust up a printing press would be an unconstitutional order and thus illegal to carry out.

    In my opinion, through this recent policing debate, the legislative branch has gotten off far too easily. Myriad bullshit laws mean myriad bullshit probable cause.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 36,009 Standard Supporter


    That's an ironic string of sentences considering that determining what is and isn't unconstitutional is explicitly not the work of law enforcement.
    I call bullshit on that. It was indeed my job. I decided if I had probable cause to stop people, search and arrest every day. That is deciding on what's constitutional by it's very definition. If I'm working a dope case I don't search without a warrant unless I have exigent circumstances, entry would be made the location frozen but no search is made until you get the warrant. We decided all the fucking time what was and wasn't constitutional. A judge would look at it later and he would also decide. FYI I never had an exigent circumstances entry overturned and those dopers had big money for big lawyers. Never.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Sledog said:

    I call bullshit on that. It was indeed my job. I decided if I had probable cause to stop people, search and arrest every day. That is deciding on what's constitutional by it's very definition. If I'm working a dope case I don't search without a warrant unless I have exigent circumstances, entry would be made the location frozen but no search is made until you get the warrant. We decided all the fucking time what was and wasn't constitutional. A judge would look at it later and he would also decide. FYI I never had an exigent circumstances entry overturned and those dopers had big money for big lawyers. Never.
    You're talking about a different scenario. Not pushing a search when you don't have a warrant is following the letter of the law. Unilaterally deciding not to enforce a law because you yourself deem it unconstitutional is going outside the bounds of your job.

    But I'm being intentionally obtuse, I fully support the use of discretion by law enforcement. It's just funny to see someone like you who thrives in absolutes to all of a sudden start inserting that discretion.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    You're talking about a different scenario. Not pushing a search when you don't have a warrant is following the letter of the law. Unilaterally deciding not to enforce a law because you yourself deem it unconstitutional is going outside the bounds of your job.

    But I'm being intentionally obtuse, I fully support the use of discretion by law enforcement. It's just funny to see someone like you who thrives in absolutes to all of a sudden start inserting that discretion.
    Sled had a very good answer to that, give credit where dew.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,768 Standard Supporter
    I think the combo of the Vid, lockdowns, and elections has gotten everyone a little on edge.

    Step back all you maskholes that disagree with me
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 36,009 Standard Supporter

    You're talking about a different scenario. Not pushing a search when you don't have a warrant is following the letter of the law. Unilaterally deciding not to enforce a law because you yourself deem it unconstitutional is going outside the bounds of your job.

    But I'm being intentionally obtuse, I fully support the use of discretion by law enforcement. It's just funny to see someone like you who thrives in absolutes to all of a sudden start inserting that discretion.
    I don't thrive on absolutes. It is not a different scenario. Just how would I gain entry into a persons home to check how many people are there? What probable cause would I have? If I had a call there alleging that and they refuse to answer the door what could I do? Kick it down?

    I'll make this simple you tell me how this is a constitutionally legal law. In any way, shape or form. I say it's not and I wouldn't enforce it. Not a damn thing you or anyone else could do about it.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,772 Standard Supporter
    Hell, in Oregon the legislation used by Kate Brown specifically had a 30 day rule requiring that any lockdown past that date had to be authorized by the legislature. Couldn't be clearer. But the leftard fascists on the Oregon Supreme Court just ignored it and let Brown keep the lockdown in place.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Hell Heck, in Oregon the legislation used by Kate Brown specifically had a 30 day rule requiring that any lockdown past that date had to be authorized by the legislature. Couldn't be clearer. But the leftard fascists on the Oregon Supreme Court just ignored it and let Brown keep the lockdown in place.

  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    Not to sermon seek here but several years ago my wife was watching Osteen (she is not religious at all) and he somehow caught her attention. As she was pondering whether we would move to California she got an email from his ministry with the typical follow your dreams go for it message and out the door we went

    csb

    Living her best life NOW
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,988 Founders Club
    You can tell fortunes the same way
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,827

    You can tell fortunes the same way

    @PsychicHotlineDawg!!! TRUE???
  • dnc said:

    @PsychicHotlineDawg!!! TRUE???
    Yesssssss.



    BTW, I fail to see why anyone would have issues covering their face.
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