What's your opinion on the JFK assassination?
Take all of that and add in that the CIA was likely working with the mob to assassinate Castro. JFK was trying to shut down the CIA (I think that's correct) so it doesn't seem crazy to me that they could have worked together to assassinate him.
There were so many people that died "suspiciously" after the assassination including a woman who was going to new Orleans to investigate a mob tie and had announced she had information on the assassination. I'm usually pretty skeptical on conspiracy theories but there is too much here. Why the hell would jack ruby immediately kill Oswald unless someone was trying to shut him up?
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My opinion is JFK was killed, by a bullet from a rifle, and it is too late to try anyone for the crime.
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The parts in that book about Jack Ruby are more interesting than the Manson narrative, imo. -
Oswald killed him that is all
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Oswald acted alone
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I've looked out of the window of the book depository and concluded he acted alone.
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Good conspiracy book
Appointment in Dallas - I think it points it finger at Carlos the Jackal iirc
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I don’t think the mob...even with the power they had in the 60s...had enough juice to touch a President, and I laugh at the notion that LBJ may have had him bumped. MAYBE Castro as payback for the BoP, but that seems like a long climb for a short slide. The mob tie is the most likely, and that’s still a stretch. And no, the CIA didn’t kill their own President because they were worried about losing their jobs.
Oswald was a communist sympathizer. He either acted alone, or at the behest of the USSR. -
I trust the FBI
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Secrets of this magnitude can't be kept. Plain and simple. If there was a conspiracy, someone would have spilled the beans a long time ago.thechatch said:I don’t think the mob...even with the power they had in the 60s...had enough juice to touch a President, and I laugh at the notion that LBJ may have had him bumped. MAYBE Castro as payback for the BoP, but that seems like a long climb for a short slide. The mob tie is the most likely, and that’s still a stretch. And no, the CIA didn’t kill their own President because they were worried about losing their jobs.
Oswald was a communist sympathizer. He either acted alone, or at the behest of the USSR. -
Its been 60 years. The spilled beans are out there. Covered up by numerous stories
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Cia did it
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The mob gave Kennedy the election based on a promise from dad to get Cuba back
JFK not only punted on Cuba, his retarded brother went after the mob
In 1963 the mob could kill anyone and did. Jim Garrison tracked it to New Orleans. Oswald was a willing patsie who was a true believer and thought he was acting for The SU and Cuba whether he was officially or not. The mob was able to use him as the lone gunman
Even at 7 years old Jack Ruby killing Lee on national TV stunk to high heaven
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BaldwinIV said:
I find it hard to be a complete coincidence that both Oswald and Jack Ruby had ties to organized crime. The mob essentially backed JFK in a deal that involved Frank Sinatra (crazy but true). They expected leniency and when JFK appointed Robert Kennedy they were furious since he was openly going after organized crime. There are wire taps of mafia bosses openly talking about killing Kennedy.
Take all of that and add in that the CIA was likely working with the mob to assassinate Castro. JFK was trying to shut down the CIA (I think that's correct) so it doesn't seem crazy to me that they could have worked together to assassinate him.
There were so many people that died "suspiciously" after the assassination including a woman who was going to new Orleans to investigate a mob tie and had announced she had information on the assassination. I'm usually pretty skeptical on conspiracy theories but there is too much here. Why the hell would jack ruby immediately kill Oswald unless someone was trying to shut him up?
This step in the logic seems like a big assumption. Has that been established or widely accepted as fact? Why would the CIA work with the mob? The mob is the mob and they were good at what they did, which was domestic crime rings operating at a regional level. I'm just not thinking that Sammy the Bull is who you call to do an international head of state hit-job.
Now, Bobby being a pain in their ass? Oh yeah. A guy I worked for was one of Kennedy's special prosecutors. To say he had great stories is a massive understatement.
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Talk about a public coach sales
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JFK was banging Marilyn which pissed off Sam Giancana (who was also drilling MM) so they whacked him.
Then she started banging Bobby and ran her mouth about the CIA plot to kill Castro. So the CIA whacked her.
And it goes round in circles...
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Yet a schlub like Oswald could? Not saying I disagree, but clearly they could have touched JFK if they wanted to. Obviously this impacted how things are handled now, and the SS does a much better job of keeping the president safe. Well mostly. I mean an iraqy threw a shoe a W.thechatch said:I don’t think the mob...even with the power they had in the 60s...had enough juice to touch a President, and I laugh at the notion that LBJ may have had him bumped. MAYBE Castro as payback for the BoP, but that seems like a long climb for a short slide. The mob tie is the most likely, and that’s still a stretch. And no, the CIA didn’t kill their own President because they were worried about losing their jobs.
Oswald was a communist sympathizer. He either acted alone, or at the behest of the USSR. -
it would have all unfolded if we had the internet like we do now. It only took just under 4 years for the last government cover-up to unfold. I can't remember the exact result - but boy did heads roll at the the very top.YellowSnow said:
Secrets of this magnitude can't be kept. Plain and simple. If there was a conspiracy, someone would have spilled the beans a long time ago.thechatch said:I don’t think the mob...even with the power they had in the 60s...had enough juice to touch a President, and I laugh at the notion that LBJ may have had him bumped. MAYBE Castro as payback for the BoP, but that seems like a long climb for a short slide. The mob tie is the most likely, and that’s still a stretch. And no, the CIA didn’t kill their own President because they were worried about losing their jobs.
Oswald was a communist sympathizer. He either acted alone, or at the behest of the USSR.
Talk about punishment, everyone got good jobs and kept their retirement, but next year their taxes are going to go up -
Yescreepycoug said:BaldwinIV said:I find it hard to be a complete coincidence that both Oswald and Jack Ruby had ties to organized crime. The mob essentially backed JFK in a deal that involved Frank Sinatra (crazy but true). They expected leniency and when JFK appointed Robert Kennedy they were furious since he was openly going after organized crime. There are wire taps of mafia bosses openly talking about killing Kennedy.
Take all of that and add in that the CIA was likely working with the mob to assassinate Castro. JFK was trying to shut down the CIA (I think that's correct) so it doesn't seem crazy to me that they could have worked together to assassinate him.
There were so many people that died "suspiciously" after the assassination including a woman who was going to new Orleans to investigate a mob tie and had announced she had information on the assassination. I'm usually pretty skeptical on conspiracy theories but there is too much here. Why the hell would jack ruby immediately kill Oswald unless someone was trying to shut him up?
This step in the logic seems like a big assumption. Has that been established or widely accepted as fact? Why would the CIA work with the mob? The mob is the mob and they were good at what they did, which was domestic crime rings operating at a regional level. I'm just not thinking that Sammy the Bull is who you call to do an international head of state hit-job.
Now, Bobby being a pain in their ass? Oh yeah. A guy I worked for was one of Kennedy's special prosecutors. To say he had great stories is a massive understatement.
The CIA works with everyone
There was a mutual interest in getting Cuba back -
Still is.RaceBannon said:
Yescreepycoug said:BaldwinIV said:I find it hard to be a complete coincidence that both Oswald and Jack Ruby had ties to organized crime. The mob essentially backed JFK in a deal that involved Frank Sinatra (crazy but true). They expected leniency and when JFK appointed Robert Kennedy they were furious since he was openly going after organized crime. There are wire taps of mafia bosses openly talking about killing Kennedy.
Take all of that and add in that the CIA was likely working with the mob to assassinate Castro. JFK was trying to shut down the CIA (I think that's correct) so it doesn't seem crazy to me that they could have worked together to assassinate him.
There were so many people that died "suspiciously" after the assassination including a woman who was going to new Orleans to investigate a mob tie and had announced she had information on the assassination. I'm usually pretty skeptical on conspiracy theories but there is too much here. Why the hell would jack ruby immediately kill Oswald unless someone was trying to shut him up?
This step in the logic seems like a big assumption. Has that been established or widely accepted as fact? Why would the CIA work with the mob? The mob is the mob and they were good at what they did, which was domestic crime rings operating at a regional level. I'm just not thinking that Sammy the Bull is who you call to do an international head of state hit-job.
Now, Bobby being a pain in their ass? Oh yeah. A guy I worked for was one of Kennedy's special prosecutors. To say he had great stories is a massive understatement.
The CIA works with everyone
There was a mutual interest in getting Cuba back
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I blame the Joooooows.
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I have felt that it was the bhlack ops military industrial complex via the CIA... doubt the mob had the appetite to
risk that level of involvement. JMO... but truthfully he was in the open and any nutbag could have had the opportunity
to do it. Motive? Taking on the might of the military-industrial black ops program which Eisenhower had just warned everyone about in his final address to the nation [read it, it's eye opening] I think is number 1.
Here is Wiki's abridged version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower's_farewell_address -
Here is the full address for those that are interested... it's a great read from a historical and current perspective.
From my perspective, he was one of the two or three greatest of presidents in our more recent history. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ike.htm -
You’re all idiots. Trump killed JFK.
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Thought it was Ted Cruz's dadEsophagealFeces said:You’re all idiots. Trump killed JFK.
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The answer, as always, is abundance.RaceBannon said:
Thought it was Ted Cruz's dadEsophagealFeces said:You’re all idiots. Trump killed JFK.
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Don't twist. I didn't mean that CIA wouldn't work with the mob to get Castro. I expect they would work with anybody in the right circumstances. I'm saying it seems unlikely that's who they'd work with to do it.RaceBannon said:
Yescreepycoug said:BaldwinIV said:I find it hard to be a complete coincidence that both Oswald and Jack Ruby had ties to organized crime. The mob essentially backed JFK in a deal that involved Frank Sinatra (crazy but true). They expected leniency and when JFK appointed Robert Kennedy they were furious since he was openly going after organized crime. There are wire taps of mafia bosses openly talking about killing Kennedy.
Take all of that and add in that the CIA was likely working with the mob to assassinate Castro. JFK was trying to shut down the CIA (I think that's correct) so it doesn't seem crazy to me that they could have worked together to assassinate him.
There were so many people that died "suspiciously" after the assassination including a woman who was going to new Orleans to investigate a mob tie and had announced she had information on the assassination. I'm usually pretty skeptical on conspiracy theories but there is too much here. Why the hell would jack ruby immediately kill Oswald unless someone was trying to shut him up?
This step in the logic seems like a big assumption. Has that been established or widely accepted as fact? Why would the CIA work with the mob? The mob is the mob and they were good at what they did, which was domestic crime rings operating at a regional level. I'm just not thinking that Sammy the Bull is who you call to do an international head of state hit-job.
Now, Bobby being a pain in their ass? Oh yeah. A guy I worked for was one of Kennedy's special prosecutors. To say he had great stories is a massive understatement.
The CIA works with everyone
There was a mutual interest in getting Cuba back
Again, as good as the mob is at what they do, assassinating Castro is a special-ops kind of thing. You need to whack a union rep? The mob's good for that. Castro? Seems above their pay grade.
Big if true IMO. -
You work with them because they were dialed in to Cubacreepycoug said:
Don't twist. I didn't mean that CIA wouldn't work with the mob to get Castro. I expect they would work with anybody in the right circumstances. I'm saying it seems unlikely that's who they'd work with to do it.RaceBannon said:
Yescreepycoug said:BaldwinIV said:I find it hard to be a complete coincidence that both Oswald and Jack Ruby had ties to organized crime. The mob essentially backed JFK in a deal that involved Frank Sinatra (crazy but true). They expected leniency and when JFK appointed Robert Kennedy they were furious since he was openly going after organized crime. There are wire taps of mafia bosses openly talking about killing Kennedy.
Take all of that and add in that the CIA was likely working with the mob to assassinate Castro. JFK was trying to shut down the CIA (I think that's correct) so it doesn't seem crazy to me that they could have worked together to assassinate him.
There were so many people that died "suspiciously" after the assassination including a woman who was going to new Orleans to investigate a mob tie and had announced she had information on the assassination. I'm usually pretty skeptical on conspiracy theories but there is too much here. Why the hell would jack ruby immediately kill Oswald unless someone was trying to shut him up?
This step in the logic seems like a big assumption. Has that been established or widely accepted as fact? Why would the CIA work with the mob? The mob is the mob and they were good at what they did, which was domestic crime rings operating at a regional level. I'm just not thinking that Sammy the Bull is who you call to do an international head of state hit-job.
Now, Bobby being a pain in their ass? Oh yeah. A guy I worked for was one of Kennedy's special prosecutors. To say he had great stories is a massive understatement.
The CIA works with everyone
There was a mutual interest in getting Cuba back
Again, as good as the mob is at what they do, assassinating Castro is a special-ops kind of thing. You need to whack a union rep? The mob's good for that. Castro? Seems above their pay grade.
Big if true IMO.
This isn't conjecture. They opened the books on the CIA in the Church Committee -
Agree.DawgsCanDance said:I have felt that it was the bhlack ops military industrial complex via the CIA... doubt the mob had the appetite to
risk that level of involvement. JMO... but truthfully he was in the open and any nutbag could have had the opportunity
to do it. Motive? Taking on the might of the military-industrial black ops program which Eisenhower had just warned everyone about in his final address to the nation [read it, it's eye opening] I think is number 1.
Here is Wiki's abridged version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower's_farewell_address -
Whoever it was, I know one thing for certain...
Race was there.
