Do the Memphis Grizzlies just hate having head coaches?

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

RoadDawg55 said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

dnc said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

dnc said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10968833/minnesota-timberwolves-making-progress-hiring-dave-joerger-coach

First they let Hollins leave and now they might let his replacement walk after one year?

DNC, you seem to have the Grizz dialed in what the fuck is going on there?

Nobody really seems to know. It's borderline full blown panic mode around here. Apparently Robert Pera (principal owner) and his handpicked GM Jason Levian had some sort of falling out. Levian's now gone, with a chunk of the FO with him. Joerger was Levian's guy, he doesn't like the instability and he has deep roots in Minnesota. Seems highly likely he's leaving to me.

I understood the Hollins thing. Hollins called the new front office cheap, didn't GAF about the analytics the FO wanted him to consider and wanted more money than Memphis thought he was worth. Letting him walk made sense to me.

I have no clue what's going on with the Levian deal. I honestly thought this FO had a pretty solid plan in place. Now it's just a massive cluster.

I mean Joerger had a rough start but when Gasol came back they were dominant. Like if Gasol was there the entire season they are probably a 2 or a 3 seed. In the East they are probably the second best team.

I think Joerger has some growing pains but shows he can be a good coach. Reminds me of Spoelstra where you see a young coach truly growing on the job(Not the fake learning on the job BS that Doogs spout about Sark).

If I'm OKC I'm doing whatever I can to steal this guy as he could make a real difference. Him going to Minnesota with Love most likely on his way out feels like a waste.

Also if I'm Minnesota I'm trying like crazy to take advantage of a desperate Cleveland trying to win now to appeal to Lebron. Try like hell to get that #1 pick since you are going to lose Love anyways.

Agreed I like Joerger. Can't imagine him ever winning anything Minnesota either. He'd probably be a nice get for OKC but they're not firing Scott Brooks anytime soon.

I don't think so either. As a basketball fan I would love for them to hire John Calipari. I think he can pull a Pete Carroll in the NBA. Once failed coach, dominated college then goes back to the pros and learned his lessons. He runs a motion offense, used to coaching with great talent and is a good recruiter so could keep Durant/Westbrook there.

As a huge Sonics fan I hope they keep Scott Brooks as crappy coaches never win NBA titles. Probably the worst coach to win a title in the last 25 years is Rudy T and he was a pretty solid coach.

Disagree. Calipari is almost as bad as Romar at just rolling he ball out. Motion/dribble drive offense is basically having superior perimeter players who beat their man off the dribble. He's good at managing egos and acquiring talent. Kentucky's best offense last year was crashing the boards. I'm not sure he would be worse than Brooks, but he might not be much better. I would take Izzo, K, and maybe Ollie and Hoiberg over him if I'm choosing a college coach.

OKC needs ego management though.

dnc said:

RoadDawg55 said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

dnc said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

dnc said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10968833/minnesota-timberwolves-making-progress-hiring-dave-joerger-coach

First they let Hollins leave and now they might let his replacement walk after one year?

DNC, you seem to have the Grizz dialed in what the fuck is going on there?

Nobody really seems to know. It's borderline full blown panic mode around here. Apparently Robert Pera (principal owner) and his handpicked GM Jason Levian had some sort of falling out. Levian's now gone, with a chunk of the FO with him. Joerger was Levian's guy, he doesn't like the instability and he has deep roots in Minnesota. Seems highly likely he's leaving to me.

I understood the Hollins thing. Hollins called the new front office cheap, didn't GAF about the analytics the FO wanted him to consider and wanted more money than Memphis thought he was worth. Letting him walk made sense to me.

I have no clue what's going on with the Levian deal. I honestly thought this FO had a pretty solid plan in place. Now it's just a massive cluster.

I mean Joerger had a rough start but when Gasol came back they were dominant. Like if Gasol was there the entire season they are probably a 2 or a 3 seed. In the East they are probably the second best team.

I think Joerger has some growing pains but shows he can be a good coach. Reminds me of Spoelstra where you see a young coach truly growing on the job(Not the fake learning on the job BS that Doogs spout about Sark).

If I'm OKC I'm doing whatever I can to steal this guy as he could make a real difference. Him going to Minnesota with Love most likely on his way out feels like a waste.

Also if I'm Minnesota I'm trying like crazy to take advantage of a desperate Cleveland trying to win now to appeal to Lebron. Try like hell to get that #1 pick since you are going to lose Love anyways.

Agreed I like Joerger. Can't imagine him ever winning anything Minnesota either. He'd probably be a nice get for OKC but they're not firing Scott Brooks anytime soon.

I don't think so either. As a basketball fan I would love for them to hire John Calipari. I think he can pull a Pete Carroll in the NBA. Once failed coach, dominated college then goes back to the pros and learned his lessons. He runs a motion offense, used to coaching with great talent and is a good recruiter so could keep Durant/Westbrook there.

As a huge Sonics fan I hope they keep Scott Brooks as crappy coaches never win NBA titles. Probably the worst coach to win a title in the last 25 years is Rudy T and he was a pretty solid coach.

Disagree. Calipari is almost as bad as Romar at just rolling he ball out. Motion/dribble drive offense is basically having superior perimeter players who beat their man off the dribble. He's good at managing egos and acquiring talent. Kentucky's best offense last year was crashing the boards. I'm not sure he would be worse than Brooks, but he might not be much better. I would take Izzo, K, and maybe Ollie and Hoiberg over him if I'm choosing a college coach.

Disagree. Cal is incredible at getting those 5 stars to commit to play defense and playing it well.

RoadDawg55 said:

Anthony Davis was the leading scorer on the championship team with 14.2 ppg. Calipari is without peer at recruiting, but basketball wise, there are better coaches. OKC doesn't have ego problems. Durant seems to be pretty easy maitenence for a superstar and the Westbrook myths have been disproven multiple times.

They have basketball problems. Their offense consists of Westbrook, Durant, and sometimes Jackson isolating their man. They are getting very few easy looks compared to the Spurs. It's not efficient and they are getting exposed by the Spurs. Popovich would destroy Calipari too.

RoadDawg55 said:

Calipari had a terrible year in 12-13 with a team more talented than the Wroten/Ross UW one. A lot of coaches would have won a championship with Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones, MGK, Darius Miller, Lamb, and Teague. All 6 of those guys are in the NBA. It was probably the most talented college team of the past 10 years. You actually think Izzo, K, Self, and Roy Williams aren't winning it with that squad?

Saying Calipari is going to recruit isn't very relevant either. Guys chasing championships would rather do it in a real city than OKC. Only way OKC gets those guys is throwing money, which won't happen with their ownership. There are better college coaches to go after than Calipari.