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Lin Wood to defend 17 yr old kid. ‘Clear self-defense’

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    NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
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    Ah, but it did survive the motion to dismiss. After that, it was all down hill for CNN and the Washington Post. They faced millions in discovery costs. They had lots to hide. The Sandmann was facing a fraction of the discovery costs of the defendant. Pretty easy to ask for all relevant email, hard to dig them up. It would take a small mind to ignore the shitload of truly awful internal emails out there and the depositions would also be embarrassing. The trial would be in Kentucky with a jury that would be sympathetic to the plaintiff against a clearly biased and untruthful defendants. I initially guessed that CNN would settle for $5 million. That's a low value against $250 million but a series of settlements add up.

    No, no, no, no.

    First of all to clarify these companies are insured. The decision is made by the commercial carrier.

    Second, discovery and motion work costs at most would run into the low six figures not anywhere near millions. We are talking about one specific story and one specific period of time. This isn’t, for example, an environmental tort against a corporation with years of actions and inaction at question. Any documentary evidence that may exist is very limited in time and scope.

    Third, Sandman may have had lower costs but he also had more to lose in discovery. He would have to be deposed. Not fun for a teenager and also likely to sink the case completely especially on the issue of damages.

    Fourth, regardless of how you feel about the parties involved the theory behind the case was convoluted. Sandmann would have to prove that WaPo knew that Phillips was lying in republishing his statements. Keep in mind Wood just got destroyed at trial in a case where his client was directly accused of pedophilia on multiple occasions and said accusations were made to tens of millions of people. The Sandmann theory of knowingly republishing false statements would be a lot harder to explain to a jury.

    Fifth, again, trial was a long way off so not really a significant threat to force settleKent at that point. A renewed summary judgment motion would be made after discovery was completed.

    I agree that the likely costs of discovery for the defendants is a good place to start for the likely value of the settlement.

    As a side note I found it interesting when Wood freaked out on Twitter about people unconnected to WaPo speculating that the settlement was probably for nuisance value. Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

    Not sure what Wood is up to now since he blocked me on Twitter after that incident but I am pretty sure he didn’t follow through with his baseless threats to sue for breach of confidentiality.
    Wood got blocked from Twitter. Why would he block some random person like you?
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,708
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    Ah, but it did survive the motion to dismiss. After that, it was all down hill for CNN and the Washington Post. They faced millions in discovery costs. They had lots to hide. The Sandmann was facing a fraction of the discovery costs of the defendant. Pretty easy to ask for all relevant email, hard to dig them up. It would take a small mind to ignore the shitload of truly awful internal emails out there and the depositions would also be embarrassing. The trial would be in Kentucky with a jury that would be sympathetic to the plaintiff against a clearly biased and untruthful defendants. I initially guessed that CNN would settle for $5 million. That's a low value against $250 million but a series of settlements add up.

    No, no, no, no.

    First of all to clarify these companies are insured. The decision is made by the commercial carrier.

    Second, discovery and motion work costs at most would run into the low six figures not anywhere near millions. We are talking about one specific story and one specific period of time. This isn’t, for example, an environmental tort against a corporation with years of actions and inaction at question. Any documentary evidence that may exist is very limited in time and scope.

    Third, Sandman may have had lower costs but he also had more to lose in discovery. He would have to be deposed. Not fun for a teenager and also likely to sink the case completely especially on the issue of damages.

    Fourth, regardless of how you feel about the parties involved the theory behind the case was convoluted. Sandmann would have to prove that WaPo knew that Phillips was lying in republishing his statements. Keep in mind Wood just got destroyed at trial in a case where his client was directly accused of pedophilia on multiple occasions and said accusations were made to tens of millions of people. The Sandmann theory of knowingly republishing false statements would be a lot harder to explain to a jury.

    Fifth, again, trial was a long way off so not really a significant threat to force settleKent at that point. A renewed summary judgment motion would be made after discovery was completed.

    I agree that the likely costs of discovery for the defendants is a good place to start for the likely value of the settlement.

    As a side note I found it interesting when Wood freaked out on Twitter about people unconnected to WaPo speculating that the settlement was probably for nuisance value. Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

    Not sure what Wood is up to now since he blocked me on Twitter after that incident but I am pretty sure he didn’t follow through with his baseless threats to sue for breach of confidentiality.
    Wood got blocked from Twitter. Why would he block some random person like you?
    I’m not sure if you understand how Twitter works but to clarify Wood received the equivalent of a time-out for violating the terms of service.

    Prior to that he spent the months since the Musk verdict blocking anyone who questioned him in anyway.

    Not surprising if you read the article I linked above or the excerpt here. The man is unhinged and quite sensitive.


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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,814
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    Twitter it's a communist platform just line Facebook. They target conservatives.
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    edited September 2020
    So, @ItsHard are you Conservative Patriot for Biden?

    a Raving Communist

    or, a Trumptard?
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    FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,708
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,389
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    Lin Wood is a terrible trial attorney coasting on reputation.

    Caveat emptor pal.

    I got five fuck offs and zero upvotes for this 100% correct take.

    Carry on masturbating on the internet over all your perceived grievances but your heroes are just here to grift off of you.

    You are welcome here to masturbate over your down votes and fuck off grievances anytime friend
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Linn got out of the boat. Never get out of the boat.
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    RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
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    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,814
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    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
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    RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
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    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
    The conservative political movement ALWAYS needs a group to hate. It used to be black people until that became unpopular. Then it was the gays but as our culture became more accepting gay people came out and it turned out that conservatives had gay children. The people that they labeled as mentally ill were their children and neighbors. Now they have the perfect enemy; the trans community. It’s so small that it impacts almost nobody. You can hate them and the chances that your family member, friend or neighbor will come out as trans is incredibly small. A group of people that make up .1% of the population are the biggest issue in the conservative movement because they NEED a group to hate even though they impact almost nobody.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,926
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    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
    The conservative political movement ALWAYS needs a group to hate. It used to be black people until that became unpopular. Then it was the gays but as our culture became more accepting gay people came out and it turned out that conservatives had gay children. The people that they labeled as mentally ill were their children and neighbors. Now they have the perfect enemy; the trans community. It’s so small that it impacts almost nobody. You can hate them and the chances that your family member, friend or neighbor will come out as trans is incredibly small. A group of people that make up .1% of the population are the biggest issue in the conservative movement because they NEED a group to hate even though they impact almost nobody.
    I could care less about the trans community but they care a great deal about me. Also, I can just feel the love for this country and constitutional republic emanating from the antifa and BLM wing of the dem party. Otherwise known as the dem party.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
    The conservative political movement ALWAYS needs a group to hate. It used to be black people until that became unpopular. Then it was the gays but as our culture became more accepting gay people came out and it turned out that conservatives had gay children. The people that they labeled as mentally ill were their children and neighbors. Now they have the perfect enemy; the trans community. It’s so small that it impacts almost nobody. You can hate them and the chances that your family member, friend or neighbor will come out as trans is incredibly small. A group of people that make up .1% of the population are the biggest issue in the conservative movement because they NEED a group to hate even though they impact almost nobody.
    Nice lecture on hate by the biggest hater ever.

    Way to attempt fagging out the thread, RF.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,814
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    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
    The conservative political movement ALWAYS needs a group to hate. It used to be black people until that became unpopular. Then it was the gays but as our culture became more accepting gay people came out and it turned out that conservatives had gay children. The people that they labeled as mentally ill were their children and neighbors. Now they have the perfect enemy; the trans community. It’s so small that it impacts almost nobody. You can hate them and the chances that your family member, friend or neighbor will come out as trans is incredibly small. A group of people that make up .1% of the population are the biggest issue in the conservative movement because they NEED a group to hate even though they impact almost nobody.
    Nice lecture on hate by the biggest hater ever.

    Way to attempt fagging out the thread, RF.
    Rubber can fag out a bathhouse.
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    EsophagealFecesEsophagealFeces Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,476
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    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
    The conservative political movement ALWAYS needs a group to hate. It used to be black people until that became unpopular. Then it was the gays but as our culture became more accepting gay people came out and it turned out that conservatives had gay children. The people that they labeled as mentally ill were their children and neighbors. Now they have the perfect enemy; the trans community. It’s so small that it impacts almost nobody. You can hate them and the chances that your family member, friend or neighbor will come out as trans is incredibly small. A group of people that make up .1% of the population are the biggest issue in the conservative movement because they NEED a group to hate even though they impact almost nobody.
    So you’re not denying you’d fuck her??
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
    The conservative political movement ALWAYS needs a group to hate. It used to be black people until that became unpopular. Then it was the gays but as our culture became more accepting gay people came out and it turned out that conservatives had gay children. The people that they labeled as mentally ill were their children and neighbors. Now they have the perfect enemy; the trans community. It’s so small that it impacts almost nobody. You can hate them and the chances that your family member, friend or neighbor will come out as trans is incredibly small. A group of people that make up .1% of the population are the biggest issue in the conservative movement because they NEED a group to hate even though they impact almost nobody.
    I could care less about the trans community but they care a great deal about me. Also, I can just feel the love for this country and constitutional republic emanating from the antifa and BLM wing of the dem party. Otherwise known as the dem party.
    Exactly, I don't give a fuck about the trans community, but they sure are hell bent on restructuring parts of our society like girl's sports and the military so that I'm forced to care about them. You want to pretend you're a girl because you like sucking cock and you have a problem just admitting you're gay. Knock yourself out. But they aren't content with that. They want to force me to pay for their sex change operations. They want me to buy into their psychos and call them "she" and "her" and if I don't they want me fired.


    Btw, can you identify any other medical condition that requires cutting off perfectly healthy body parts in order to "cure" the patient? If someone thinks of themselves as a blind person but they really can see should we gouge that person's eye's out at taxpayers expense and would anyone claim that person was sane?
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    Remember when you guys were all over Lin Wood’s nuts?

    Line Wood is batshit crazy and that’s been apparent for a long while. What should always give Republicans pause is there is a correlation between someone’s love of Trump and their likely questionable mental health. Look at Mike Lindell, has anyone here been following him? Absolutely off his rocker, holy shit. Rudy G? WTF happened to that guy? Sydney Powell? Wow. It’s a Carnival of Crazy.


    You don't say...
    Rubber is trying to get a date with her.
    Rubber would fuck "her" if "she" asked because he wouldn't want anyone to think he was transphobic.
    The conservative political movement ALWAYS needs a group to hate. It used to be black people until that became unpopular. Then it was the gays but as our culture became more accepting gay people came out and it turned out that conservatives had gay children. The people that they labeled as mentally ill were their children and neighbors. Now they have the perfect enemy; the trans community. It’s so small that it impacts almost nobody. You can hate them and the chances that your family member, friend or neighbor will come out as trans is incredibly small. A group of people that make up .1% of the population are the biggest issue in the conservative movement because they NEED a group to hate even though they impact almost nobody.
    I could care less about the trans community but they care a great deal about me. Also, I can just feel the love for this country and constitutional republic emanating from the antifa and BLM wing of the dem party. Otherwise known as the dem party.
    Thanks for caring.
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