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Why didn't the cops wrestle him to the ground!!!!
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I would like to know if he really was holding a knife like that. What he has in his hand in the photo could be the car keys, but the testimony from one of the eyewitnesses was that the police were yelling at him to drop the knife before he went around the front of the car and opened up the car door. The reports that they found a knife on the floorboard of the front seat could have just been the knife he was carrying.georgiaduck said:
Good point- Dude had nothing to lose.SFGbob said:
I don't know about you but I wouldn't be too keen on getting on the ground and wrestling with a guy who is holding a knife like that.georgiaduck said:George Floyd, Rayshan Brook and now this guy all had multiple officers trying to get him into submission. None were successful- lots of videos on youtube showing criminals getting away from a cop's grip. Why is this so hard to understand that fighting in this situation just makes it worse?
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That could be car keys. Need to get the police report. If they really were yelling "drop the knife" prior to his opening the door as he came around the front of the car, then the odds of that being a knife increase greatly.Sledog said: -
That pic is only conclusive if that’s what you’re looking for
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If it's cops shooting a black person, most people on the left will immediately look for any way to blame the police, rather than step back and look at each situation individually.
I disagree with how the police handled the situation with George Floyd. I disagreed with how they handled Eric Garner several years ago, too (if I recall correctly). So I'm definitely not a blind supporter of police.
But this situation is different. It does look like a knife in his hand. There are also witness accounts that he had been wrestling with the cops, too. He also tried to get into the driver's seat of his car with his kids in there. That means the police would have to get into their cars and chase him. Do we really want children involved in a police chase? Seems dangerous. This guy had a criminal history and in this situation it looks like he had reached his "I don't give a fuck about my life anymore" mental state. People in that state of mind and who are fleeing the police should not be allowed to get in their car and drive it, especially if there are kids in there.
If you want to argue that police should be highly skillled to the point where they are able to restrain and arrest a suspect with a knife more easily without having to resort to guns, I think that's fair. But right now the police are trained the way they're trained. And from the sounds of it, they did try to restrain him non lethally, but he got away. And if he was carrying a knife, I wouldn't trust a slapjack or taser against him.
That's how I feel based on the evidence and video footage we currently have. As more facts and evidence are revealed, I might change my mind. -
Agreed.GrundleStiltzkin said:That pic is only conclusive if that’s what you’re looking for
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Very distinctive blade shape. Not much like it you'd be toting around. But hey the cops were just out to target this particular black and murder him. What do you guys think briefings are for before shift? To hand out the hit lists!GrundleStiltzkin said:That pic is only conclusive if that’s what you’re looking for
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Hot take; It is entirely irrelevant to the outcome whether he is carrying a knife in that picture or not.
Violent felon, with a warrant, physically resists arrest, both physical restraint and tasers were attempted, he continued to a car with children in it ignoring officer orders and reached into the vehicle.
Thats enough...
Whether there is a knife in his hand, a gun in the car or not, or he was just going to flee police in a car that was not his with children in the backseat doesnt change the fact that his actions, by themselves, are going to result in a justifiable shooting 9 times out of 10. -
Yea but he shot him SEVEN times. Why not only shoot him four time? That seems more fair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8&fbclid=IwAR0zQQDLlFtI1qPRjHsxin0wEEb9J9WMBpV0yD8oztcDfSF-GDwUS0X7A9Y
