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The lockdowns

RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,173
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https://foxnews.com/media/alex-berenson-coronavirus-lockdowns-booklet

“I think it's really important, at a time when 90 percent of media... is saying the same thing, with very little pushback or smart questioning, to get different perspectives,” Berenson said. “Even if you disagree with me completely, it’s always good to know what other people are thinking."

“Lockdowns really came out of nowhere. When you look at the history of lockdowns, they were rejected over and over again as a tool when we were considering what to do about flu epidemics, including flu epidemics that would have been much worse than what the coronavirus epidemic is,” Berenson said. “I’m talking about something up to the Spanish Flu, or possibly even worse than that. The health authorities and the scientists who considered this said, ‘No lockdowns. Lockdowns don’t work.’”

While Berenson said previous data suggests that lockdowns don’t work once you get to an epidemic stage, the complicated decision to implement them anyway was made in a matter of days as leaders struggled to understand COVID-19.

“We threw out a lot of work that we had done in a matter of days,” Berenson said. “It is completely unprecedented. Wherever you stand on lockdowns, you should understand how unprecedented this is.

“The idea that there will be national lockdowns or large state lockdowns is hard for me to imagine,” Berenson said, noting that recent spikes were handled without additional lockdowns.

“In Arizona, Texas and Florida, the worst of it is behind us in terms of the number of people hospitalized,” Berenson said. “The death counts will still continue to rise, but they accomplished that without a major lockdown. So, I think, rationally, governors who look at that and distance themselves from the media hysteria, will say, look in Houston... Phoenix, Miami, without lockdowns those hospitals continued to function.”

The author added that “rationality has played only a small part” in decision making thus far when it comes to the coronavirus pandemic, so nothing would absolutely shock him at this point.

“The point of the lockdown is supposed to be to save the hospitals from being overrun, to save us all from some sort of massive societal collapse, that didn’t happen,” he said. “So what on earth would we be doing it for going forward?”


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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,870
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    There’s never been even an attempt to answer that last question.

    Real martial law would’ve actually worked for two weeks, though if Trump has come up with it it would have been bad.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Bob_C said:

    There’s never been even an attempt to answer that last question.

    Real martial law would’ve actually worked for two weeks, though if Trump has come up with it it would have been bad.

    Fuck that.

    But as weºve said, if Trump had tried, #Resist would have worked for the people, and things would be wide ass open.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,173
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    If you ask what Trump should have done it gets real vague real fast. Talked better is pretty much the top choice.

    He did a ban from China - that was racist. He left it to the states as they requested. He has since advocated to get it open and save the economy hence the 15 day lockdown now in its FOURTH big month

    Cuomo is a hero for killing thousands. Inslee is a hero for losing Seattle to anarchists. The media says Trump is done.

    Guess we will find out. Note that over 20% of folks are set to default on the rent at the end of September. How will that play in October when voting starts?

    The democrat calculation that no one cares about the economy because they hate Trump will be put to the test
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,845
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    The dems will be arguing for more unemployment payments and further rent holidays with no foreclosure and fear of the second wave. The party of free sh*t, lies and fear.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    We were right buddy!
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    If you ask what Trump should have done it gets real vague real fast. Talked better is pretty much the top choice.

    He did a ban from China - that was racist. He left it to the states as they requested. He has since advocated to get it open and save the economy hence the 15 day lockdown now in its FOURTH big month

    Cuomo is a hero for killing thousands. Inslee is a hero for losing Seattle to anarchists. The media says Trump is done.

    Guess we will find out. Note that over 20% of folks are set to default on the rent at the end of September. How will that play in October when voting starts?

    The democrat calculation that no one cares about the economy because they hate Trump will be put to the test

    I'm hearing more tests, ventilators and PPE were the things that would have stopped this in it's tracks in March.
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