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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    thechatch said:

    Creep,

    Repeat after me. He ain’t winning....and It ain’t gonna be close. Those light blue swing voters in the UMW that turned out for Trump in 2016 are gone baby gone.

    You underestimate the Dem ability to fuck everything up
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,487 Standard Supporter
    Pitchfork51 said:

    thechatch said:

    Creep,

    Repeat after me. He ain’t winning....and It ain’t gonna be close. Those light blue swing voters in the UMW that turned out for Trump in 2016 are gone baby gone.

    You underestimate the Dem ability to fuck everything up
    They fucked up in 2016 because Hillary wanted to fundraiser and attend dinner parties more than she wanted to campaign and the whole party dismissed Trump.

    Now, it’s “vote blue or the world is ending” and that message is resonating.

    In 2016, his candidacy was an amusement to the left and no one took the election seriously. In 2020, Everything is Trump’s fault and you’ll see low turnout at the polls in his target demo thanks to Covid restrictions. The DNC avoided the only fuckup that would have allowed Trump to win and that was not letting Sanders get the nod. They’re finally playing SEC ball after too many cycles in the PAC12.

    It’s cooked, fam.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,492 Founders Club
    If Hillary lost because she didn't want to campaign then Biden will lose because he can't campaign

    Science
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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,487 Standard Supporter
    RaceBannon said:

    If Hillary lost because she didn't want to campaign then Biden will lose because he can't campaign

    Science

    They’ve made it so he doesn’t have to. He can hide in his basement, avoid head to head debates, and duck any and all interviews at his leisure while he just runs out the clock, because, apparently, the MSM is ok with it...check that, they’re celebrating it as some kind of master stroke of campaign genius.

    Debates were made to appeal to the moderate/swing vote. In 2016, Trump made his mint in those settings. What’s the orange man gonna do in 2020 without the ability to bully his opponent on stage in front of 80 million(check that 90 million thanks to COVID) viewers?

    It’s done, folks!
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,278
    thechatch said:

    Creep,

    Repeat after me. He ain’t winning....and It ain’t gonna be close. Those light blue swing voters in the UMW that turned out for Trump in 2016 are gone baby gone.

    I will return and eat crow chatch. I just don't think the corpse can pull it off.
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  • incremetal_progress
    incremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
    creepycoug said:

    thechatch said:

    He’s not going to win.

    Biden will be President in 2020.

    There will not be a traditional debate. Schools will not be reopened until AFTER the election. Restrictions on businesses and public gatherings will not be lifted until votes are cast.

    I have this from people that would know. Biden has been told to limit exposure as much as possible. No public appearances with Q/A. No townhalls. No debates. No Non-scripted interviews. DNC still deciding for him who is VP would be. Biden has ZERO say-so in the process.

    Imagine placing someone like that in the Oval Office.

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    I doubt some of that, based on what I'm told by my own people who would know.

    interviews, appearances, etc. yeah, sure. like any politician, his handlers are likely telling him, perhaps a bit more nicely than his Tug advisors would communicate, that he's not great on his feet anymore (if he ever was). so, yeah, probably; and the pandemic is a really nice excuse to keep him behind a screen. Trump would carve him up at a town hall.

    It's also a long way from done that Trump loses, and the idea that Biden has zero say in the whole process is basically bullshit. he is a powerful man in his party. don't doubt it.

    Basically the calculus is this: will Trump's base, who literally will never leave him, lose to some mythical increase in the vote from the left that supposedly didn't turn out last tim because Hillary had it in the bag? Who was on team Trump before and not now? And, why? I ain't buyin' it. Trump voters love who he is precisely because of the way he is, warts and all. They're not switching and they're not staying home.

    There's not a lot of swing here either. Swingers stay home in this one because neither candidate is going to do anything to @Swaye them. People have picked their tribes. They almost should cancel all the campaign bullshit and save everyone the time and money. This thing could be counted right now.
    This was the calculus before voters aged 65+ completely abandoned Trump because of his covid response.

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  • incremetal_progress
    incremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
    All this talk about Biden, Biden is not the featured player of this election. Maybe y'all should tell Trump to stop bragging about passing a dementia test if you want Biden's cognitive decline to be a winning issue for him.

    The only chance Trump has is if something out of his control massively helps him, like the pandemic magically improving despite no national strategy and a completely overwhelmed and worthless testing apparatus.
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  • incremetal_progress
    incremetal_progress Member Posts: 358
    Pitchfork51 said:

    Eh. I can't see people taking the virus too seriously for much longer. It's pretty hard when you don't actually see any sick people for like 6 plus months

    this board is really good at projecting how they have felt about the pandemic since it began on the broader electorate.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    thechatch said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    thechatch said:

    Creep,

    Repeat after me. He ain’t winning....and It ain’t gonna be close. Those light blue swing voters in the UMW that turned out for Trump in 2016 are gone baby gone.

    You underestimate the Dem ability to fuck everything up
    They fucked up in 2016 because Hillary wanted to fundraiser and attend dinner parties more than she wanted to campaign and the whole party dismissed Trump.

    Now, it’s “vote blue or the world is ending” and that message is resonating.

    In 2016, his candidacy was an amusement to the left and no one took the election seriously. In 2020, Everything is Trump’s fault and you’ll see low turnout at the polls in his target demo thanks to Covid restrictions. The DNC avoided the only fuckup that would have allowed Trump to win and that was not letting Sanders get the nod. They’re finally playing SEC ball after too many cycles in the PAC12.

    It’s cooked, fam.
    I'll wait and see. The two main plays left are the VP nom which will no doubt piss everyone off. (Watch them get a white chick)

    And the debates.
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