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RaceBannon
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  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,782 Swaye's Wigwam
    Silly answer: Just as much as they can guarantee it today
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,836

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,836
    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    Fair points and probably true, but you know ideas like Darwinism and herd immunity to this aren't going to play with a considerably large group of people since they think there are measures we can take now to prevent it that don't involve killing people off or intentionally letting it spread. Whether those ideas are tenable while keeping the economy afloat is another issue.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,636 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    Fair points and probably true, but you know ideas like Darwinism and herd immunity to this aren't going to play with a considerably large group of people since they think there are measures we can take now to prevent it that don't involve killing people off or intentionally letting it spread. Whether those ideas are tenable while keeping the economy afloat is another issue.
    Starving on the street is a much better option.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    Fair points and probably true, but you know ideas like Darwinism and herd immunity to this aren't going to play with a considerably large group of people since they think there are measures we can take now to prevent it that don't involve killing people off or intentionally letting it spread. Whether those ideas are tenable while keeping the economy afloat is another issue.
    Fair point as well. I know this is blasphemy now, but I do not mind some death. If the bodies were really stacked like cordwood full on Bubonic Plague shit then yeah, let's shut it down. But this is a glorified flu. Sometimes people just have to die. Been going on for thousands of years. Likely to continue.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited July 2020
    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    Fair points and probably true, but you know ideas like Darwinism and herd immunity to this aren't going to play with a considerably large group of people since they think there are measures we can take now to prevent it that don't involve killing people off or intentionally letting it spread. Whether those ideas are tenable while keeping the economy afloat is another issue.
    Fair point as well. I know this is blasphemy now, but I do not mind some death. If the bodies were really stacked like cordwood full on Bubonic Plague shit then yeah, let's shut it down. But this is a glorified flu. Sometimes people just have to die. Been going on for thousands of years. Likely to continue.
    Like most things it just needs some PR work...

    Herd immunity? Call it community vaccination, Healthy reparation tax, or something anti-Trump. Anyone who disagrees is an alt-right Russian antivaxxer.

    Encourage Vid parties for healthy people under 45, offer up some Trump bucks, and get that Herd immunity % over the threshold and the disease disappears without risk to the isolated vulnerable population in a few weeks.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter




    Under Joe Biden kids won't get sick at school
    Fun fact: During SpanFlu, NYC Public Schools deliberately chose to remain open, with reasonable precautions, because they predicted it would be in the best interest of the children.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,006




    Under Joe Biden kids won't get sick at school
    Fun fact: During SpanFlu, NYC Public Schools deliberately chose to remain open, with reasonable precautions, because they predicted it would be in the best interest of the children.
    Negated: The Wilson presidency has been cancelled. Nothing of note happened between 1913 and 1921.

  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,251

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    This

    West Linn is known for their high moral ground. Police Dept. not withstanding
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,616 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    Fair points and probably true, but you know ideas like Darwinism and herd immunity to this aren't going to play with a considerably large group of people since they think there are measures we can take now to prevent it that don't involve killing people off or intentionally letting it spread. Whether those ideas are tenable while keeping the economy afloat is another issue.
    Fair point as well. I know this is blasphemy now, but I do not mind some death. If the bodies were really stacked like cordwood full on Bubonic Plague shit then yeah, let's shut it down. But this is a glorified flu. Sometimes people just have to die. Been going on for thousands of years. Likely to continue.
    ^^This^^. I've been on the cold and calculated side of the argument for some time. The "one life" argument gives me the triggers. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." Wrath of Kahn bitches! Spocks words to a young Knowledge sunk deeper than I thought they did.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,836
    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    Fair points and probably true, but you know ideas like Darwinism and herd immunity to this aren't going to play with a considerably large group of people since they think there are measures we can take now to prevent it that don't involve killing people off or intentionally letting it spread. Whether those ideas are tenable while keeping the economy afloat is another issue.
    Fair point as well. I know this is blasphemy now, but I do not mind some death. If the bodies were really stacked like cordwood full on Bubonic Plague shit then yeah, let's shut it down. But this is a glorified flu. Sometimes people just have to die. Been going on for thousands of years. Likely to continue.
    Frankly, I've always thought we're outcompeting each other too frequently for resources. How do you think the salmon population survives? It's not by wearing masks across their gills or social distancing while swimming upstream.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    HuskyJW said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    This

    West Linn is known for their high moral ground. Police Dept. not withstanding
    This is a really interesting comment to me as my family had some horrible run in with the WL police. They were corrupt and probably still are.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,251

    HuskyJW said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    This

    West Linn is known for their high moral ground. Police Dept. not withstanding
    This is a really interesting comment to me as my family had some horrible run in with the WL police. They were corrupt and probably still are.
    HuskyJW sighs.....

    https://katu.com/news/local/former-west-linn-police-chief-engaged-in-misconduct-in-arrest-of-black-man-da-finds
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter
    HuskyJW said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    This

    West Linn is known for their high moral ground. Police Dept. not withstanding
    West Linn, for some reason in the last couple of decades has had a corrupt chief financial officer who stole hundreds of thousands, an incompetent city staff and an incompetent and corrupt police department. It's run like a banana republic city.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter

    HuskyJW said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    This

    West Linn is known for their high moral ground. Police Dept. not withstanding
    West Linn, for some reason in the last couple of decades has had a corrupt chief financial officer who stole hundreds of thousands, an incompetent city staff and an incompetent and corrupt police department. It's run like a banana republic city.
    But they held the line on no tennis. So, give them credit for the big things.

  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    HuskyJW said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    This

    West Linn is known for their high moral ground. Police Dept. not withstanding
    West Linn, for some reason in the last couple of decades has had a corrupt chief financial officer who stole hundreds of thousands, an incompetent city staff and an incompetent and corrupt police department. It's run like a banana republic city.
    Sounds like most Democrat-run large cities.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    It's about fucking time someone fixed the engine and got the eugenics bus rolling again.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    It's about fucking time someone fixed the engine and got the eugenics bus rolling again.
    We? should have finished off the Injuns in the 1800s.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    It's about fucking time someone fixed the engine and got the eugenics bus rolling again.
    Didn’t realize the weakest and sickest patients in nursing homes were reproducing. Learning new things here daily.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    It's about fucking time someone fixed the engine and got the eugenics bus rolling again.
    Didn’t realize the weakest and sickest patients in nursing homes were reproducing. Learning new things here daily.
    What the fuck are you talking about?
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited July 2020

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    It's about fucking time someone fixed the engine and got the eugenics bus rolling again.
    Didn’t realize the weakest and sickest patients in nursing homes were reproducing. Learning new things here daily.
    What the fuck are you talking about?
    Eugenics. You brought it up. I’m trying to figure out how it apples to @Swaye’s post on natural selection.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    It's about fucking time someone fixed the engine and got the eugenics bus rolling again.
    Didn’t realize the weakest and sickest patients in nursing homes were reproducing. Learning new things here daily.
    What the fuck are you talking about?
    Eugenics. You brought it up. I’m trying to figure out how it apples to @Swaye’s post on natural selection.

    I have no idea what's happening here.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Can you imagine in 1843 being a couple of recently married 18 year olds setting out from Missouri for the Pacific Northwest via wagon train to establish a new life being confronted by the question if going to school in the fall of 2020 was too risky? Our society is morally shot. Stupid and frightened by our own shadow.

    The irony is that those people probably died of a pandemic that wasn't treatable or for which there was no vaccine so they couldn't be confronted with that question anyway.
    And then as a society we were stronger because the weak sick losers died. Only in modern society is natural selection no longer a thing. We are worse off for it. We, collectively, are the products of the ones that could outrun the others before the sabre tooth tigers got them. When you go to WalMart and see all the fat asses, blame a lack of tigers and natural selection.
    It's about fucking time someone fixed the engine and got the eugenics bus rolling again.
    Didn’t realize the weakest and sickest patients in nursing homes were reproducing. Learning new things here daily.
    What the fuck are you talking about?
    Eugenics. You brought it up. I’m trying to figure out how it apples to @Swaye’s post on natural selection.

    I have no idea what's happening here.
    Neither does @GreenRiverGatorz, so it’s all good, man.